I am very sad after 21 case NT

[secbigazn]

Originally Posted by tristan20

This is one thing I do not believe, OP is holding back.

Agree with this completely.

[MiracleSports]

Originally Posted by DigitalTurk

This thread made my day lol
You got the 1/1 Logoman immaculate wiggins
You have no reason to complain at all.
SMH

This dog turd of a product Panini puts out gives people every legitimate reason to complain. The worst collation of hits in years. So just because the OP hit a Wiggins Logos 1/1 he can't voice his discontent for a shitty product? If you think it's the idea of him flushing down the drains all that $$ down the drain that depresses him which just so happens that made your day, YOUR DAMN WRONG! 70K for him on any given day is like 70 bucks for YOU. If anything we should be more thankful and less cynical of people sharing their generous break results. SMH the lack of sympathy and morals of some people nowadays.... LOL

[MiracleSports]

Originally Posted by mj23hk

-.-..............nothing to say........i pull all bad card and i make your day

Spread your breaks out OP. Meaning doing 4-5 cases at a time asking your LCS to order from different distributors. Much better odds that way. Ignore the butt-hurt haters. Stay strong and speedy recovery!

[bigcwd2000]

Originally Posted by Skybox

obviously mj23hk is a high roller ... for those questioning him busting this much product ... I highly doubt this dude is worried about money

I appreciate the fact that he posts here & shares his victories as well as his defeats

better luck next time mj23hk

Oh I am sure he has a lot of money. No one in their right mind would just drop $70k on boxes of sports cards without having the money to do so. At least I hope they wouldn't. I do find these threads entertaining though. It's cool to see what kind of cards come out of mass quantities of products like this.

[arod305]

Not sure what to think of someone that spent $70k on sports cards...

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

I feel bad for the guy. Who wouldn't feel bad for someone spending $35000 on basketball cards and not pulling the best player?

lol No offense but I'm not going to feel sorry for someone who can afford to drop 35 grand on cases to open.

[Jblaw1]

I don't necessarily follow the logic that its OK for someone who buys more product to get hosed. So if you can afford to buy tons of stuff, you should get nothing? Usually, in most businesses, the more you buy the better treatment you get. I don't know if "sorry" is the word, but I can certainly sympathize having opened a couple of dumpster fire cases of this myself (along with a great case, feast or famine).

I don't know OP at all, other than to have seen his breaks, but having busted a bunch of stuff myself, no matter who you are, you have some kind of limit to what you can/will spend. When you spend that and get complete garbage, its sad, whether your bill gates or bill the delivery guy.

I also think the language barrier may be something that causes people to take what he says the wrong way. Since I can't speak anything but English, my hats off to anyone who is bilingual. The difficulty of English idiom is notorious.

And If I'm reading this right, did the OP also end up hurting himself? If so, hope you get better soon.

Finally, I look forward to seeing what 12 RPA's he did get and what the mix were, along with the other hits, because its fun to see.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by tmar214

My math might be wrong but their are 33 rpa. So every case you have ~96.9% chance of not drawing a wiggins.

.969^21 = .51.

So about 51p of the time you don't hit a wiggins rpa in 21 cases.

35p of the time you don't hit one in 33 cases.


So yea it's not that hard.

I think it's actually lower. For every case not having a Wiggins, the odds of having a Wiggins in the next one increase.

[hychang5]

Originally Posted by DigitalTurk

This thread made my day lol
You got the 1/1 Logoman immaculate wiggins
You have no reason to complain at all.
SMH

Why would you take pleasure at someone's bad luck? Yes he pulled the inmaculate 1/1 wiggins, but how does him getting a bad break here 'make your day'? Pretty cold if you ask me.

[rudyjustinfarrell]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I think it's actually lower. For every case not having a Wiggins, the odds of having a Wiggins in the next one increase.

This needs to be dropped in Calculusdork's lap....

[MiracleSports]

Originally Posted by Jblaw1

I don't know OP at all, other than to have seen his breaks, but having busted a bunch of stuff myself, no matter who you are, you have some kind of limit to what you can/will spend. When you spend that and get complete garbage, its sad, whether your bill gates or bill the delivery guy.

I also think the language barrier may be something that causes people to take what he says the wrong way. Since I can't speak anything but English, my hats off to anyone who is bilingual. The difficulty of English idiom is notorious.

And If I'm reading this right, did the OP also end up hurting himself? If so, hope you get better soon.

Finally, I look forward to seeing what 12 RPA's he did get and what the mix were, along with the other hits, because its fun to see.

Very well put. It is indeed the language barrier that unables him to choose the right wording to fully convey what he's trying to say. He previously had great luck ordering in large quantities of cases which resulted in big product hits. Therefore he naturally thought that if he ordered/opened the same amount this time it would result in the same outcome. Needless to say the OP is the consumer & victim assissting distributors dumpting and digesting decoy cases. Panini is the root of all evil. Their greed knows no bounderies. It is evident in seeing them coming out with more stick autos & base parallels in NT such as the blue version /25 this year all to contribute in producing more cases. Collation of hits is horrendous and lacks consistency. Not to mention if any of the big product hits is again held back in their vault.

I also enjoyed your breaks alot. I think you're a smart consumer. I've noticed that there's always some nice hits coming out of the breaks in the midwest. My friends and partners in this sportscards business often told me that there's some quality dealers in this area. Perhaps you can PM me some contacts so I can pay a visit next time I visit the States.

[eliteman0318]

Originally Posted by arod305

Not sure what to think of someone that spent $70k on sports cards...

Very wealthy and very generous to share the breaks.

[zip726]

hes got 105 auctions running if you believe he didn't hit anything you are so very naïve. also you have the money to do a massive break like this means you don't need the money at all and good for you for that. I am sure Panini is going to compensate you heavily for saying you didn't get anything so on top of what you aren't talking about your hits you will get even more. just a coincidence all the product hits you pull also. no pity for someone who blows that much change on a hit or miss product . I would venture to say there are quite a few monsters sitting back so not to let the hobby know some of the best hits have been pulled already

[IronMonkey415]

enough with the chit chat... I want you to post a picture of all the logoman you've pulled in one picture.

[benz35]

Originally Posted by IronMonkey415

enough with the chit chat... I want you to post a picture of all the logoman you've pulled in one picture.

anything not wiggins is not good.... he might have pulled kd, kobe ,lebron, steph curry..but no wiggins

[advan24r]

That's where these Chinese Stock Market investors are throwing there money into now...pulling out and buying Panini =)

[GoldenBoy23]

Originally Posted by arod305

Not sure what to think of someone that
spent $70k on sports cards...

LOL

Some people gamble for $250k one roll on baccarat alone.

Win or lose they smile and still want to play..

Instead of gambling and losing them all I'd rather spend my $70k on cards winning or losing and even recieving bck 5% ROI still happy busting

[TBlazers50]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

I think it's actually lower. For every case not having a Wiggins, the odds of having a Wiggins in the next one increase.

Only very slightly. With a run of 4,000+ cases, it doesn't affect it much.

[minnesotachill]

It's just way too early to declare a big break like this 'trash' or a big bust.


There are so many rookies that will go up 2-3x, maybe 5-10x in value. Just give these rookies some time.

Most of the case breaks in 2012 that had Anthony Davis RPAs were considered average at the time.

[Andy5]

Stop saying he didn't he big. He has more than likely pulled a bunch of logomans and some quality RPAs. It's very unfortunate he didn't pull one Wiggins card but that's gambling for you.

Are you breaking anymore cases OP?

[Tyler9755]

I hope one day I can afford to break 10k of cases in one year, you're a lucky one, tbh I'm envious.

[crazymj]

There Are total 135 wiggins Rpa including the Logoman. I don't know if someone did the math but I'm sure not hitting one of the 135 out of 21 cases is within the norm of statistic

[Andy5]

Originally Posted by crazymj

There Are total 135 wiggins Rpa including the Logoman. I don't know if someone did the math but I'm sure not hitting one of the 135 out of 21 cases is within the norm of statistic

33 cases, broke another 12.

[yiguiri2002]

It's more likely not to hit at least one Wiggins: 51.26% chances of no Wiggins. Did he hit at least a Parker?

[Giggs11]

Better luck next product mate, the hits will come. I have seen many people blast the OP on various forums every time he busts cases whether it be for posting pics prior to another countries release day or for posting big hits. This time he didn't get lucky vs the amount spent yet he still gets slammed. I have bought from the OP a few times and he's a nice dude to deal with. I can't imagine spending that amount on anything but that's his luck, not for me to act like a jealous wanker and take joy in his loss.
Hope the mojo train brings a load next break, good luck bud.