Trevor Bauer

[atk825]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Their primary evidence was the testimony of a cooperative witness.

Must have been pretty damning.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by atk825

Must have been pretty damning.

It wasn't. Why is that hard for you to understand? They had nothing and took the easy road to save face by saying, "Well, our case fell apart, so let's all just agree that credit for time served is good. We get the suspension we want, and this goes away." Bauer had nothing he could do.

You're a fool if you think he shied away from a lawsuit because of discovery. He literally counter sued his accuser and went through discovery. Your blindly accepting the obviously biased MLB outcome, in spite of mountains of evidence to the contrary, that even the accuser bailed on, is astonishing.

What exactly do you think they had that was so damning that the prosecutors in the criminal case didn't have, or that his accuser didn't have? Don't you think she would use everything possible to support her claim? Nah, why would she do that. Just let MLB use that evidence to let Bauer off with time served. LOL :rollseyes: Use your brain.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I'm defending truth, justice, and doing what's right, even if it means supporting someone I personally despise. That's what people of character do. You, on the other hand, are willing to sell those things out as long as it benefits you or hurts someone you hate. Ironically, that makes you more morally bankrupt than the person you despise.

If your quest is indeed the defense of "truth, justice and doing what's right" please at least acknowledge that the decision handed down by MLB was not merely in response to one singular (and flawed) accuser as you continue to paint it. There were multiple accusers over multiple years who were interviewed by MLB, and there were multiple instances involved.

If your quest is indeed the defense of "truth, justice and doing what's right" please at least acknowledge that the arbitrator's reduction of the suspension was not some sort of vindication for Bauer. While Bauer was indeed free to play in 2023, his salary was to be docked for the first 50 games to complete the 194 game suspension. No one expected the 324 suspension to stand, but going from 324 to 194 isn't vindication...it's a correction to an obvious reach from MLB.

Now, if you want to argue the suspicious nature of the length of the suspension and how it benefited the Dodgers...have at it. Just don't go halfway under some farcical guise of "truth, justice and what's right."

Bauer has the opportunity to fight MLB, MLBPA and the Dodgers if he so chooses....maybe you can get a seat to help with the discovery in the Ohio incidents.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by discostu

If your quest is indeed the defense of "truth, justice and doing what's right" please at least acknowledge that the decision handed down by MLB was not merely in response to one singular (and flawed) accuser as you continue to paint it. There were multiple accusers over multiple years who were interviewed by MLB, and there were multiple instances involved.



If your quest is indeed the defense of "truth, justice and doing what's right" please at least acknowledge that the arbitrator's reduction of the suspension was not some sort of vindication for Bauer. While Bauer was indeed free to play in 2023, his salary was to be docked for the first 50 games to complete the 194 game suspension. No one expected the 324 suspension to stand, but going from 324 to 194 isn't vindication...it's a correction to an obvious reach from MLB.



Now, if you want to argue the suspicious nature of the length of the suspension and how it benefited the Dodgers...have at it. Just don't go halfway under some farcical guise of "truth, justice and what's right."



Bauer has the opportunity to fight MLB, MLBPA and the Dodgers if he so chooses....maybe you can get a seat to help with the discovery in the Ohio incidents.

I never said the reduction was vindication. Please don't put words in my mouth. The MLB decision was put forth as damning. I simply said it's not.

Bauer's vindication is that none of the accusations has had merit. The criminal investigation and the evidence that came to light through it was vindicating to anyone who objectively looked at it. The other accusations have also not turned up anything damning.

I put zero stock in the MLB investigation. It is inherently biased and unsupported by every other investigation and lawsuit. They have the ability to suspend a player for conduct they don't agree with, whether it's right or wrong. And the PA was in an impossible position where they could defend Bauer, and appear to condone his perfectly legal, consensual, yet reprehensible behavior, or give in and agree to make the problem go away. Don't pretend they could have possibly defended him.

If you think there is damning evidence in the MLB investigation, pleae share it. I'll wait. Otherwise, I'll keep basing my conclusions on the publicly available evidence from legitimate investigations that contain nothing damning. But just keep clinging to hidden hope in phantom evidence.

[seanbros55]

But who cares though?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

But who cares though?

Apparently, nowiamsad does, since he bumped a thread that hadn't been posted in for a year. It clearly means a lot to him. Bauer is living in his head.

[nowiamsad]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I'm defending truth, justice, and doing what's right, even if it means supporting someone I personally despise. That's what people of character do. You, on the other hand, are willing to sell those things out as long as it benefits you or hurts someone you hate. Ironically, that makes you more morally bankrupt than the person you despise.

lol ok Superman.

[nowiamsad]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Apparently, nowiamsad does, since he bumped a thread that hadn't been posted in for a year. It clearly means a lot to him. Bauer is living in his head.

Or maybeit was the news that he was demoted to the minors in Japan.

Thought that’d be the end of it but here you are dying on the worst hill for a guy who is a loser on all fronts.

[jdandns]

That's why helicopters were not "deployed".

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by nowiamsad

Or maybeit was the news that he was demoted to the minors in Japan.

Thought that’d be the end of it but here you are dying on the worst hill for a guy who is a loser on all fronts.

Had you just said he was demoted, it would have stopped there. But you didn't. You ran your ignorant mouth about those "defending" him. I'm not dying on any hill. I'm standing firm on the hill of not being swayed by bias and public opinion, and insisting on only known evidence. It's the hill of rational thought. You should join me someday.

I agree his personal practices are disgusting to me. But I'm wise enough to separate that from the rest of the mess. Unlike you, who can only see a person you don't like, so you latch on to every allegation, true or not, to shape your position. It's sickening really.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by nowiamsad

lol ok Superman.

It's called integrity. You should get some sometime.

[Eckstein197]

Remember this past offseason when Bauer said there was only 20 true hitters who could challenge him? I’m gonna guess he forgot a couple 0’s on that number considering he’s arguably the worst pitcher in the NPB

It’s sad that there’s still a very loud minority of people who think he would be an above average MLB starter still

[bub838]

https://x.com/PatrickDLyons/status/1945851384764719349

Elehuris Montero... lmao

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by bub838

https://x.com/PatrickDLyons/status/1945851384764719349

Elehuris Montero... lmao

594???

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Remember this past offseason when Bauer said there was only 20 true hitters who could challenge him? I’m gonna guess he forgot a couple 0’s on that number considering he’s arguably the worst pitcher in the NPB

It’s sad that there’s still a very loud minority of people who think he would be an above average MLB starter still

I actually think he could be a 4/5 starter still

but his toxic presence in the clubhouse would probably outweigh any contributions he could make, which is why he still hasn't been given a opportunity