2024 Topps Series 1 Details

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by base set

I believe the blaster exclusive parallels are just replacing the equally pointless blaster exclusive “manu” patches or whatever, which no one really wanted either. I expect Topps was just sick of trying to create new blaster exclusives so who cares. I mean people gobble up Baseball Cards with snowflakes and candy canes on them so how is Easter or Halloween parallels any dumberer? We’re buying the blasters anyway. The odds of pulling Topps Gold will tell the story but you will have to look those up on the website, not the wrapper.

I curious to know what the print run of, let's use, the metal helmet relic was. That was a checklist of 50. There was an auto version for 42 of them, all numbered 10 or less. 1 per box. This spring/Easter checklist. 330 card checklist.that's already six times the size. There's 2 unnumbered parallels of all 330 cards. 1 of them falls 1 in 3 boxes, the other is 1 in 8 boxes. Four numbered parallels of all 330 cards, numbered to 50, 10, 5, 1.

To think that replacing those blaster only manu relic with this isn't going to increase the print run is just silly. And bring it back to the golds. Since it's a fair assumption the number of blasters is increased, if they keep the same percentage of golds in each product (jumbo, hobby, retail, blaster, etc), then the odds in something are going to increase. And not necessarily print run related, but they changed the configuration of the hobby boxes with update this year, dropping the number of packs in hobby. Making the number golds per box drop.

[JimEd14]

On the top of the Blabbin' about Slabbin' YT podcast tonight, they stated an SSP collector on IG (eephus_pitch) confirms with Topps that SSPs will indeed be back.

Potentially mentioned elsewhere, mentioned in the first few minutes here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2JHsm44QVI

[cbeauch87]

Everyone always says “you can’t lose money ripping/selling Series 1 on release day.” What’s the best way to go about it? I’ve never opened a case of anything before, but with all my MVP buyback credit I’m tempted to get a jumbo case of Series 1.

Pre-selling base sets? Insert sets?


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[mfw13]

Originally Posted by cbeauch87

Everyone always says “you can’t lose money ripping/selling Series 1 on release day.” What’s the best way to go about it? I’ve never opened a case of anything before, but with all my MVP buyback credit I’m tempted to get a jumbo case of Series 1.

Pre-selling base sets? Insert sets?


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Save your money for Heritage instead....this year is the very-popular 1975 design.....

[DioBrando]

So unless I've missed it, topps/fanatics haven't even revealed what the 2024 flagship design is yet??

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Save your money for Heritage instead....this year is the very-popular 1975 design.....

LOL. The Heritage that for a "good" year 2022 can be had for $35 a box? Heritage is a dead horse that gets more dead each passing year

[atk825]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Save your money for Heritage instead....this year is the very-popular 1975 design.....

That will be printed to the moon. There will be some absolutely awesome cards but it's really hard to justify buying wax.

[ThoseBackPages]

everything should be printed to the moon

#TenX aint gonna happen by cutting back!

[DioBrando]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Save your money for Heritage instead....this year is the very-popular 1975 design.....

Wonder if they work out a deal for Brett to sign. If they don't, massive failure on topps

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by DioBrando

Wonder if they work out a deal for Brett to sign. If they don't, massive failure on topps

yea, there should be a Brett/Yount dual!

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by cbeauch87

Everyone always says “you can’t lose money ripping/selling Series 1 on release day.” What’s the best way to go about it? I’ve never opened a case of anything before, but with all my MVP buyback credit I’m tempted to get a jumbo case of Series 1.

Pre-selling base sets? Insert sets?


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I am lazy and I have been able to consistently open "free" jumbo cases by listing the top 40 or so cards from every box (inlcuding the Mojo chrome) (after putting aside anything PC, which is very narrow for me) at .99 starting bid auctions and $1 shipping.

in 2023 I think I had a "hot" jumbo case, each box had a "case hit" (4 SSPs including Julio, a heavy lumber (trout) and a nice Home Field Advantage (Adley, which I kept as a PC item), orange Gunnar foil, and another colored Gunnar. The seven cards there probably covered the cost of that case due to the high interest level.

*Everything* meeting that "top 40 cards" criteria will get action if you can get it listed within the first 3-4 days.

There are sellers who will argue I'm leaving money on the table listing at .99 auction, but. I'd rather have $5 today, hold out for $7 in a BIN listing that I have to see renew month after month. The number of buyers in that first couple weeks of series 1 is pretty wild.

Others here will have better answers to actually maximize profit; when I do what I describe above, I am after a 'free' case, to experience the cards early, the chance at a bigger hit, and the chance for nice PC item (which for me is remote). I am not a business, I just like opening cards for free or lower prices. Series 1 is both the most enjoyable for me, due to freshness, and the "easiest" to do what I am describing, due to the interest level.

[base set]

Originally Posted by BBases31

LOL. The Heritage that for a "good" year 2022 can be had for $35 a box? Heritage is a dead horse that gets more dead each passing year

Yes, just collect dollar bills, you’ll be happier that way.


Whit - the metal hat things in blasters had a massive unnumbered print run; the serial #’d ones were just bonus chase material. Someone calculates the S1 print run every year from the Golds, it will be interesting to see this year if we are “off peak” yet.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by base set

Yes, just collect dollar bills, you’ll be happier that way.


Whit - the metal hat things in blasters had a massive unnumbered print run; the serial #’d ones were just bonus chase material. Someone calculates the S1 print run every year from the Golds, it will be interesting to see this year if we are “off peak” yet.

I understand that. Again, that was a 50 card checklist. These holiday sets are 300/330 cards. That's six times more. Even breaking it down with the 3 per blaster, that's twice as many (Call it 100 3-card sets). Then factor in 2 unnumbered parallels and 4 numbered. That's why I asked what the print run. Are we talking 100,000 of each one? With all of that, I just don't see any way that it's not a higher print run with these. There's no reason to believe there's not a massive print run with these cards either, especially with so many parallels.

I know people calculate print runs from the golds, but there still some variance in that. Golds are packed in every form of the product. Without know how many are designated per design. 2023 had 667,590 golds printed for Series One. Do we know what percentage when to hobby and jumbo and blasters, and etc? And using the golds, unless the odds are dropping every year, print run is going up just for that.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by atk825

That will be printed to the moon. There will be some absolutely awesome cards but it's really hard to justify buying wax.

Unless you enjoy opening wax....

Not everyone cares about profit & ROI....

[oldgoldy97]

It’s one thing not to be worried about profit.

It’s another thing to get a bunch of junk.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

It’s one thing not to be worried about profit.

It’s another thing to get a bunch of junk.

Agreed...and the junk is of even poorer quality than it has been in the past

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

It’s one thing not to be worried about profit.

It’s another thing to get a bunch of junk.

Blasphemy. If you can’t open wax for pure fun, you’re either a poor or a flipper boi.

The price you pay for the experience absolutely influences the fun factor.

[Remmons22]

I liked the Halloween theme for update but I don't think I love the idea of Easter parallels. Would have loved the parallels to be more " Opening Day or Spring Training themed. I may be in the minority on this which is fair.

I do like the blaster parallels a lot. Makes it more fun for the people who only pick up a blaster once in a while.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

It’s one thing not to be worried about profit.

It’s another thing to get a bunch of junk.

You must be one of those people who consider base cards to be junk.....

If that's the case, you shouldn't be opening wax in general, since 90% of the cards in most products are the base cards that you consider "junk".

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by mfw13

You must be one of those people who consider base cards to be junk.....

If that's the case, you shouldn't be opening wax in general, since 90% of the cards in most products are the base cards that you consider "junk".

I'm in agreement with this comment, but I think two things are true:

-Base cards do not have positive market value as singles or in bulk, (unless as complete sets? I don't buy, build, or track so I don't know)
-Base card quality went way downhill in 2023 Update Series (and probably other products, but that one bothered me personally).

I'm on both sides of this fence. I really enjoy series 1 and really like that I can open more than I need without it costing me much. But the quality of the cards and the negative EV for the 90%, are both annoying factors

[edit - I want to clarify that I am a collector first and foremost, my PC is definitely not for profit as I almost never sell from the PC. I just dabble financially in jumbos or similar for products that make me happy]

[premium1981]

Design preview today? Fingers crossed!

[oldgoldy97]

That would be a surprise considering it’s New Year’s Day. Topps has trouble doing things when they have them planned out and on a timer on a Wednesday in the middle of October.

[ThoseBackPages]

i would expect Topps to launch the free loan errr pre-sale on these along with the image preview

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by BBases31

LOL. The Heritage that for a "good" year 2022 can be had for $35 a box? Heritage is a dead horse that gets more dead each passing year

Where is it $35 per box?

Heritage master sets from any year still bring $200-$300. That's a huge chunk of the case cost if you found a bargain. I can't find 2022 for under $600 anywhere, including DN, which is why I'm intrigued by the $35. If you can point me in the right direction I'll grab a case.

The price of the wax is "dead" because it's not an exciting or flashy product to open. It's horrible for group breakers and takes too much time. It is still very popular among traditional set collectors hence why you can still sell master sets as high as you can. The high floor, high ceiling of Heritage still makes it an attractive buy year after year.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i would expect Topps to launch the free loan errr pre-sale on these along with the image preview

Indeed.