If or When Ovechkin breaks the goal record. - Page 6

stoopid · 11-22-2024, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selanne00008

I’d bet everything I own he breaks the record. And he’s still got a shot to do it this year. A hairline fracture, although out 4-6 weeks is way better than any ligaments.

Most likely he scores 35 this year in total and breaks it by November 2025.

I agree on him having a good chance (obviously the best anyone's had until now), but time is running out/not on his side. Please don't bet anything on it. Anything can happen, good or bad, and no one can predict the future.

anusinha · 11-22-2024, 09:22 PM

He'll get it unless Putin tosses him out a window. Even if he has to trot out there on a sled.

Retired hobbist · 11-23-2024, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoopid

I agree on him having a good chance (obviously the best anyone's had until now), but time is running out/not on his side. Please don't bet anything on it. Anything can happen, good or bad, and no one can predict the future.

Short of this being a career ending injury the record is a lock, but I remember Carl Malone having just a knee injury and he was "just" 1000 points and change short of the record, so I guess anything is possible.

You also have black swan type situations ie fatal or career ending car crashes/plane crashes but beyond these scenarios the record will fall.

creasecollector · 11-25-2024, 06:44 PM

I still think he breaks the record. We'll see how he comes back after the injury, but he'll play as long as he needs to.

Crazy that he was off to the best start of his career before this though.

callou2131 · 01-25-2025, 10:22 PM

Down to 20. There is no way he doesn't break it. if not this year, certainly early next year.

Inferno · 01-26-2025, 11:36 AM

Probably early next year at this point. He would need a hell of a heater to score another 20 in the back half.

odjickfan · 01-26-2025, 12:03 PM

I am pretty sure the record will be broken before Christmas 2025.

jmarascojr · 01-28-2025, 09:58 AM

He has 22 goals in 33 games played this year... That's roughly 2 goals every 3 games...

Washington has 32-33 games left...

Let's call it ONE goal every three games (slumps, rest for the playoffs, etc), that would give him 11 more, 9 to the record...

My guess would be by Halloween 2025...

scotts · 01-30-2025, 10:30 AM

There are still 30 games left for the Capitals. If he stays healthy, he is breaking that record this spring. He has a hat trick of 2 upcoming....hopefully Feb 22nd against Penguins when i am in town!

Maybe the Pens can bring back Tristan Jarry for that game, hell he may have 5 goals that game if they do!

SLGSports · 01-30-2025, 03:46 PM

I'm expecting a selloff... which will begin a few weeks before he breaks it

Retired hobbist · 01-30-2025, 04:16 PM

As we discussed earlier if you have OV rookies or limited print run cards you would want him to be a few short and have the offseason build up similar to Aaron and Ruth in 74'.

mallowciraptor · 01-30-2025, 05:00 PM

Longshot to do it this season, but all he really needs is one of his patented torrid stretches and he could get there.

kellmuff · 01-31-2025, 10:25 AM

as a card holder, I think that off season hype for the record will cause a lot of FOMO buyers to overpay for stuff

jmarascojr · 02-01-2025, 12:17 PM

His PSA 9's are already up a couple hundred dollars from the beginning of the season...

I think i'll be sticking with my PSA 8...

Tonic3 · 02-02-2025, 12:59 AM

Always enjoy watching him play. Can’t wait for him to break the record

kellmuff · 02-05-2025, 08:51 AM

empty netter with 0.1 seconds last night lol

JohnnyAppleseed · 02-05-2025, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonic3

Always enjoy watching him play. Can’t wait for him to break the record

I know it's "just a plate" but dang is that a big plate.

nbahobbyaddict · 02-12-2025, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellmuff

as a card holder, I think that off season hype for the record will cause a lot of FOMO buyers to overpay for stuff

Yeah I agree with that.

ZappBrannigan · 02-12-2025, 11:43 AM

Sell sell sell!

jmarascojr · 02-12-2025, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbahobbyaddict

Yeah I agree with that.

There were 2 tables at last year's National that were trying to get 2k for PSA 9s...

Can't wait to see what they have them priced at this year...

rohara99 · 02-13-2025, 06:08 PM

Ovie prices were higher early 2023.

mfw13 · 02-14-2025, 08:33 PM

Irrespective of whether or not he does break the record (and I think he will), he's never going to be thought of in the same class as Gretzky for four reasons:

- he's not a passer....only 714 career assists (Gretzky had 1963)
- he's Russian
- has only won one Cup
- career +/- of only 63 (Gretzky's was 520, for comparison).

He's the best sniper ever, without a doubt, even better than Brett Hull, but he will never be a hugely popular player no matter how many goals he ends up scoring.

Retired hobbist · 02-15-2025, 09:57 PM

If Washington was Boston or Detroit then his cards could have more value as they would be even hotter in the local market but hockey is still just a niche sport in Washington.

Watch what happens when he retires and the team is a version of the 74/75 team in abilities.

Giroux · 02-16-2025, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retired hobbist

Watch what happens when he retires and the team is a version of the 74/75 team in abilities.

Always been a big fan of OV...but have you watched him or the Caps play recently? He isn't single-handedly carrying them anymore

Retired hobbist · 02-17-2025, 09:13 PM

You're right he is part of the machine not the main cog of the machine. It's the only way the team could be contenders for a deep playoff run.

11-25-2024, 06:44 PM	#129
creasecollector Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,586 creasecollector	I still think he breaks the record. We'll see how he comes back after the injury, but he'll play as long as he needs to. Crazy that he was off to the best start of his career before this though. __________________ Collecting: Jhonas Enroth View my Collections, Traders & Wantlist: creasecollector.weebly.com Co-Host of the Center Ice Card Cast - A Hockey Card Podcast Instagram/Twitter: @creasecollector

01-25-2025, 10:22 PM	#130
callou2131 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Centreville, Md Posts: 8,476	Down to 20. There is no way he doesn't break it. if not this year, certainly early next year. __________________ Sent using US Airways Wifi

01-26-2025, 11:36 AM	#131
Inferno Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Eh Posts: 1,653	Probably early next year at this point. He would need a hell of a heater to score another 20 in the back half. __________________ It’s Got To Be Game-Worn And On-Card IG: FrozenInfernoCollectibles

01-26-2025, 12:03 PM	#132
odjickfan Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 1,503 odjickfan	I am pretty sure the record will be broken before Christmas 2025. __________________ Tradelist: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11IdFTXBFFoAaX6H2aVivPkQ53Eh4XI5g/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106577311251479576706&rtpof=true&sd=true Wantlist: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p25DD9-ZdSr5PobQTfdArgcqS3Ixon4x/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=106577311251479576706&rtpof=true&sd=true

01-28-2025, 09:58 AM	#133
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,413 shooterjoe13	He has 22 goals in 33 games played this year... That's roughly 2 goals every 3 games... Washington has 32-33 games left... Let's call it ONE goal every three games (slumps, rest for the playoffs, etc), that would give him 11 more, 9 to the record... My guess would be by Halloween 2025... __________________ Always looking to trade, https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVYMy7F I PC Luke Harper/Brodie Lee

11-22-2024, 09:22 PM	#127
anusinha Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,666	He'll get it unless Putin tosses him out a window. Even if he has to trot out there on a sled.

01-30-2025, 10:30 AM	#134
scotts Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,444 bhull1616	There are still 30 games left for the Capitals. If he stays healthy, he is breaking that record this spring. He has a hat trick of 2 upcoming....hopefully Feb 22nd against Penguins when i am in town! Maybe the Pens can bring back Tristan Jarry for that game, hell he may have 5 goals that game if they do!

01-30-2025, 03:46 PM	#135
SLGSports Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Posts: 135	I'm expecting a selloff... which will begin a few weeks before he breaks it

01-30-2025, 04:16 PM	#136
Retired hobbist Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,481	As we discussed earlier if you have OV rookies or limited print run cards you would want him to be a few short and have the offseason build up similar to Aaron and Ruth in 74'.

01-30-2025, 05:00 PM	#137
mallowciraptor Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Maine Posts: 718 tylerzx2002 mallowciraptor	Longshot to do it this season, but all he really needs is one of his patented torrid stretches and he could get there.

01-31-2025, 10:25 AM	#138
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,355	as a card holder, I think that off season hype for the record will cause a lot of FOMO buyers to overpay for stuff

02-01-2025, 12:17 PM	#139
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,413 shooterjoe13	His PSA 9's are already up a couple hundred dollars from the beginning of the season... I think i'll be sticking with my PSA 8... __________________ Always looking to trade, https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVYMy7F I PC Luke Harper/Brodie Lee

02-02-2025, 12:59 AM	#140
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,469	Always enjoy watching him play. Can’t wait for him to break the record Attached Thumbnails __________________ Always looking for: 2001 SP Authentic Golf - Preview parallels - Gold (#/250) and Red (#/50) of any player...especially Tiger Woods.

02-05-2025, 08:51 AM	#141
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,355	empty netter with 0.1 seconds last night lol

02-12-2025, 11:43 AM	#144
ZappBrannigan Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Biafra Posts: 2,375	Sell sell sell!

02-13-2025, 06:08 PM	#146
rohara99 Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Canada, eh! Posts: 985	Ovie prices were higher early 2023.

02-14-2025, 08:33 PM	#147
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 17,485	Irrespective of whether or not he does break the record (and I think he will), he's never going to be thought of in the same class as Gretzky for four reasons: - he's not a passer....only 714 career assists (Gretzky had 1963) - he's Russian - has only won one Cup - career +/- of only 63 (Gretzky's was 520, for comparison). He's the best sniper ever, without a doubt, even better than Brett Hull, but he will never be a hugely popular player no matter how many goals he ends up scoring.

02-15-2025, 09:57 PM	#148
Retired hobbist Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,481	If Washington was Boston or Detroit then his cards could have more value as they would be even hotter in the local market but hockey is still just a niche sport in Washington. Watch what happens when he retires and the team is a version of the 74/75 team in abilities.

02-17-2025, 09:13 PM	#150
Retired hobbist Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,481	You're right he is part of the machine not the main cog of the machine. It's the only way the team could be contenders for a deep playoff run.