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Old 03-16-2021, 02:02 PM   #126
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What makes you think that...honest question.

I think they will... due to the fact their future seems to have regressed. I just feel their 5 year window has closed since the last WS. Happens to everyone...
I dont by any means have any KC knowledge but looking at their team & the farm....looks like Witt could bring a powerhouse vet if they needed including a fat return of prospects.

Same thing happened with Lux...except Witt is better. Lux was almost a big trade last year....teams are probably thanking the Dodgers for every decline. But the Dodgers have an entire team of utility players that can play any position at any time. Lux was the exception to the rule since he is struggling on D at 2B. Dodgers had nothing to lose sitting on him.
KC is small market team - with a budding star - 7 (ish) more years of control. Why would they trade a 20 year old Witt (or 21 next year) for prospects?...when Witt's trajectory is top 5 talent prospect next year.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:07 PM   #127
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What makes you think that...honest question.

I think they will... due to the fact their future seems to have regressed. I just feel their 5 year window has closed since the last WS. Happens to everyone...
I dont by any means have any KC knowledge but looking at their team & the farm....looks like Witt could bring a powerhouse vet if they needed including a fat return of prospects.

Same thing happened with Lux...except Witt is better. Lux was almost a big trade last year....teams are probably thanking the Dodgers for every decline. But the Dodgers have an entire team of utility players that can play any position at any time. Lux was the exception to the rule since he is struggling on D at 2B. Dodgers had nothing to lose sitting on him.
There is zero chance they trade Witt right now. What would be the purpose? He's not expensive, and if they have a chance at competing in the next few years, he's going to be a big part of it. Trading him for prospects would make even less sense.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:10 PM   #128
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lmao the Royals aren't going to trade Witt. That has to be one of the biggest, and most outlandish dumbest proposals I've seen.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:17 PM   #129
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There is zero chance they trade Witt right now. What would be the purpose? He's not expensive, and if they have a chance at competing in the next few years, he's going to be a big part of it. Trading him for prospects would make even less sense.
I was thinking a big vet and prospects...you would know more of course its your team. I just wasnt sure they were close to competing in 3 years. I only have 2 friends that are KC fans living in Arkansas not including my in-laws (either Cards or Royals fans there) and they swear to me KC is toast for the next 5-7 years.

But everything is just opinions on my part & theirs as well.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:18 PM   #130
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Bobby Witt is on a different level than say a Gavin Lux. This is a once in a generation talent you build around.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:21 PM   #131
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lmao the Royals aren't going to trade Witt. That has to be one of the biggest, and most outlandish dumbest proposals I've seen.
Little dramatic no? Geez man....everything in Texas really is bigger.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:23 PM   #132
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Bobby Witt is on a different level than say a Gavin Lux. This is a once in a generation talent you build around.
And here sits Mike Trout without a championship....you think Witt gonna make that mistake?

Big market teams get what they want...when they want.
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Old 03-16-2021, 02:34 PM   #133
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How reliable is this number? Done by someone with the actual math or just a number thrown out there? I aks because if this is the correct number than it makes these very inticing compared to a base chrome. They should maybe hold a much bigger price then they do now. I always figured even with it being first edition that the price was much higher than that.
This is from a reddit post on 2020 1st Edition bowman:These statistics give us a figure of around 2.1 million First Edition cards printed in total, or around 210,000 First Edition packs*. With 24 packs to a box that makes it* 8,750 2020 Bowman First Edition Boxes made.
Finally, with 105,000 Sky Blues, 22,500 Blue Foils, 11,200 Yellow Foils, 7500 Gold Foils, 3750 Orange Foils, 750 Red Foils, and 150 1/1's, as well as 677 autographs, we can figure out how many of the 2.1 million 1st edition cards were base. Subtracting everything gives us 1,948,473 total First Edition base cards printed. Assuming that the cards were printed in equal quantities (a big if, considering 1st edition's notorious collation issues) we get 12,989 of each base 1st edition card printed
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I was thinking a big vet and prospects...you would know more of course its your team. I just wasnt sure they were close to competing in 3 years. I only have 2 friends that are KC fans living in Arkansas not including my in-laws (either Cards or Royals fans there) and they swear to me KC is toast for the next 5-7 years.

But everything is just opinions on my part & theirs as well.
Not sure how anyone can predict something that far down the road. I don't expect them to compete this year, but I expect them to improve over the past few seasons. They bottomed out 2 years ago after the WS run, and they are trending up from there. Again, not saying they are contenders for a title, I'm saying they are better than last place and with 2 WCs, who knows.

It makes zero sense either way. If you think they have zero chance to compete, then why trade for a big vet? What purpose does that serve? If they are going to compete in the next few years, he's going to be a part of it.
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And here sits Mike Trout without a championship....you think Witt gonna make that mistake?

Big market teams get what they want...when they want.
You just need to stop. You admitted to having no knowledge of the Royals system or where they are at. They made moves this year to be competitive (Santana, Minor, and Benintendi). They have SP coming out of everywhere. Not all of them will stick, but 4 probably will. The others could easily be bullpen arms that set up nicely with what they have already. They have an owner who seems to be committed to winning. They have a core of players who have played together for a few years and had success last year. Everything is trending upward. Not at all like you anecdotal information has told you. Witt could be the piece that gets them to the next level. He will not be traded. He will probably play in the Majors this year. It is just how it is.
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This is from a reddit post on 2020 1st Edition bowman:These statistics give us a figure of around 2.1 million First Edition cards printed in total, or around 210,000 First Edition packs*. With 24 packs to a box that makes it* 8,750 2020 Bowman First Edition Boxes made.
Finally, with 105,000 Sky Blues, 22,500 Blue Foils, 11,200 Yellow Foils, 7500 Gold Foils, 3750 Orange Foils, 750 Red Foils, and 150 1/1's, as well as 677 autographs, we can figure out how many of the 2.1 million 1st edition cards were base. Subtracting everything gives us 1,948,473 total First Edition base cards printed. Assuming that the cards were printed in equal quantities (a big if, considering 1st edition's notorious collation issues) we get 12,989 of each base 1st edition card printed
Did 1st Edition not have regular chrome base and regular paper base versions?
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just paper/foils auto online exclusive only.
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....and Witt Jr is "To legit to Quit"
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Old 03-16-2021, 08:27 PM   #139
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Hold on to your seatbelts folks, Dayton Moore said he’s open to Witt making the opening day roster...
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Hold on to your seatbelts folks, Dayton Moore said he’s open to Witt making the opening day roster...
That’s great news! I’ll be very glad to be wrong on this one.
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I didn't realize how old he was, he turns 21 in June.
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Hopefully my 2020 Bowman Prospect Pool Gold Auto 1/1 and Red Auto /10 are back from PSA before opening day, they’ve had them since 2/18 on a regular order.
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Hopefully my 2020 Bowman Prospect Pool Gold Auto 1/1 and Red Auto /10 are back from PSA before opening day, they’ve had them since 2/18 on a regular order.
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Bobby Witt is on a different level than say a Gavin Lux. This is a once in a generation talent you build around.
Holy cow you guys are hyperbolic. In 2019, Gavin Lux was arguably the best hitter in all of MiLB at age 21 in the high minors. He struggled in 69 PA last year and suddenly he’s trash?

Look at Witt’s stats in Rookie ball in 2019. Very uninspiring. He’s having a great spring and suddenly he’s on “a different level than Lux”. If I had to bet on one or the other, I’d bet on Lux.
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This is from a reddit post on 2020 1st Edition bowman:These statistics give us a figure of around 2.1 million First Edition cards printed in total, or around 210,000 First Edition packs*. With 24 packs to a box that makes it* 8,750 2020 Bowman First Edition Boxes made.
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This is a awesome post. Like reading stuff like this.

Witt is a star in the making.
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Holy cow you guys are hyperbolic. In 2019, Gavin Lux was arguably the best hitter in all of MiLB at age 21 in the high minors. He struggled in 69 PA last year and suddenly he’s trash?

Look at Witt’s stats in Rookie ball in 2019. Very uninspiring. He’s having a great spring and suddenly he’s on “a different level than Lux”. If I had to bet on one or the other, I’d bet on Lux.
Sshhhhhh, I need Gavin’s prices to stay low a little longer, haven’t finished my shopping.
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In all fairness, he didn't say which year's Opening Day
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Holy cow you guys are hyperbolic. In 2019, Gavin Lux was arguably the best hitter in all of MiLB at age 21 in the high minors. He struggled in 69 PA last year and suddenly he’s trash?

Look at Witt’s stats in Rookie ball in 2019. Very uninspiring. He’s having a great spring and suddenly he’s on “a different level than Lux”. If I had to bet on one or the other, I’d bet on Lux.
This hobby is beyond flavor of the month.

Witt will be trash too just give it some time.
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Put down the meth pipe dude.
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