Nintendo releasing mini NES with 30 built in games

[Panthersfans]

Originally Posted by Bader

Ok so that was harsh about them going under but this is what gets me about Nintendo. The brand is gone, trust me I loved my Nintendo stuff when I was a kid but in todays market they cannot compete with Sony or Xbox and if your going to introduce a new system console at least do it right. The Wii failed miserably and so did the Wii U which is its current console that doesn't even support bluray capability or even DVD for that matter. I can almost gurantee if it were not for DS % 3DS handhelds Nintendo would have been gone years ago.

Now you release a NES classic and don't make it cartridge compatible to me is a fail. Sure for $60 its neat and cool but 30 built in games will get old real fast plus a what 18" or 27" wire...man this is 2016 nobody sits directly in front of the tv to play games unless your 6

No offense but given the prices the classic has gone for in the past few days I'd say I disagree with you. I do understand your point on dlvd capability but good god I can't even tell you the last time I watched one. I'd bet DVDs go away before Nintendo.

[kyle1707]

My thoughts...

I will buy my mini nes in January for 39.99

also as far as Nintendo... They hype is Huge for the NX in march

as bad as the wii u was.. I have feeling the NX is going to be huge...

The online hype is through the roof... Rumored game list is pretty amazing

The small amount of graphics seen looks like huge upgrade...

Its make or break for them.. I have good feeling bout it

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Bader

Ok so that was harsh about them going under but this is what gets me about Nintendo. The brand is gone, trust me I loved my Nintendo stuff when I was a kid but in todays market they cannot compete with Sony or Xbox and if your going to introduce a new system console at least do it right. The Wii failed miserably and so did the Wii U which is its current console that doesn't even support bluray capability or even DVD for that matter. I can almost gurantee if it were not for DS % 3DS handhelds Nintendo would have been gone years ago.

Now you release a NES classic and don't make it cartridge compatible to me is a fail. Sure for $60 its neat and cool but 30 built in games will get old real fast plus a what 18" or 27" wire...man this is 2016 nobody sits directly in front of the tv to play games unless your 6

If you are serious about saying the Wii failed miserably then I don't know if you should be having any kind of discussion about video games. Just to save you time, the Wii sold over 100 million units worldwide. So yeah, far from failing miserably.

[Bader]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

If you are serious about saying the Wii failed miserably then I don't know if you should be having any kind of discussion about video games. Just to save you time, the Wii sold over 100 million units worldwide. So yeah, far from failing miserably.

Aside from it being a hit and selling well I meant it as a failure that it's no longer in demand. In a competitive market of video gaming the only thing Nintendo still produces are the handhelds, and regardless of how many are sold including the new NES Nintendo still loses millions of dollars every year due to poor sales so yes I would think my argument on being a fail is valid.

Trust me if Nintendo actaully produced something of quality on a next generation console. I'd love to buy it, but I don't think it will ever happen.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Bader

Aside from it being a hit and selling well I meant it as a failure that it's no longer in demand. In a competitive market of video gaming the only thing Nintendo still produces are the handhelds, and regardless of how many are sold including the new NES Nintendo still loses millions of dollars every year due to poor sales so yes I would think my argument on being a fail is valid.

Trust me if Nintendo actaully produced something of quality on a next generation console. I'd love to buy it, but I don't think it will ever happen.

So aside from it's success, it was a failure?

[TMichaelSC]

Originally Posted by Bader

Aside from it being a hit and selling well I meant it as a failure that it's no longer in demand. In a competitive market of video gaming the only thing Nintendo still produces are the handhelds, and regardless of how many are sold including the new NES Nintendo still loses millions of dollars every year due to poor sales so yes I would think my argument on being a fail is valid.

Trust me if Nintendo actaully produced something of quality on a next generation console. I'd love to buy it, but I don't think it will ever happen.

Maybe it's no longer in demand because it came out in, what, 2006? The next evolution was not successful, I agree with you. But to say that the Wii was a failure is just crazy. People who hadn't played video games in forever, or ever, were buying and using the Wii...

[rcgdodge]

Originally Posted by Bader

Aside from it being a hit and selling well I meant it as a failure that it's no longer in demand. In a competitive market of video gaming the only thing Nintendo still produces are the handhelds, and regardless of how many are sold including the new NES Nintendo still loses millions of dollars every year due to poor sales so yes I would think my argument on being a fail is valid.

Trust me if Nintendo actaully produced something of quality on a next generation console. I'd love to buy it, but I don't think it will ever happen.

Yeah, the Wii is terrible. Only 100 million sold.

PlayStation 2 Sony 2000 >155 million
Nintendo DS Nintendo 2004 154.02 million
Game Boy/Game Boy Color Nintendo 1989/1998 118.69 million
PlayStation Sony 1994 102.49 million
Wii Nintendo 2006 101.63 million
Xbox 360 Microsoft 2005 84 million
PlayStation 3 Sony 2006 >83.8 million
PlayStation Portable Sony 2004 82 million
Game Boy Advance Nintendo 2001 81.51 million
Nintendo Entertainment System Nintendo 1983 61.91 million

[rcgdodge]

As of the first quarter of 2012, the Wii leads its generation over PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in worldwide sales, with more than 101 million units sold.

Total failure....come on now.

[IronMonkey415]

I like videos games and I play them all.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

My thoughts...

I will buy my mini nes in January for 39.99

also as far as Nintendo... They hype is Huge for the NX in march

as bad as the wii u was.. I have feeling the NX is going to be huge...

The online hype is through the roof... Rumored game list is pretty amazing

The small amount of graphics seen looks like huge upgrade...

Its make or break for them.. I have good feeling bout it

Same thoughts here. I own all these carts for original NES and happened to have last Friday off (Eye Doctor), but I woke up and read it was releasing and might be high demand. I thought to snag 1-2 at my local small town Gamestop. Showed up 20 minutes before opening and boom.....150 people in line. I laughed, turned around and went for breakfast.

My buddy who was intent on getting one. Won one in a raffle that ended up filling at $625 to the seller.....insane. Some people will make out well off of this, but once the restocks keep coming.....a lot of resellers will end up with there hands in the cookie jar.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Same thoughts here. I own all these carts for original NES and happened to have last Friday off (Eye Doctor), but I woke up and read it was releasing and might be high demand. I thought to snag 1-2 at my local small town Gamestop. Showed up 20 minutes before opening and boom.....150 people in line. I laughed, turned around and went for breakfast.

My buddy who was intent on getting one. Won one in a raffle that ended up filling at $625 to the seller.....insane. Some people will make out well off of this, but once the restocks keep coming.....a lot of resellers will end up with there hands in the cookie jar.

Yep, people will jump on the next round for the sole purpose of reselling, and they'll be lucky to break even.

I get the popularity, because it's easy. People buying them for presents don't take into account where else the games are available, don't know that it doesn't allow for expansion, and think Raspberry Pi is available in the food court.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by no10pin

So aside from it's success, it was a failure?

That was a beaded statement for sure. First time I've popped my head into the thread and I might as well say something on topic while here. I used to love Nintendo but they lost me with the Wii. I don't like gimics and while I see the allure in movement based gaming, I'd rather sit my fat arse on the couch with an old school controller. If I want to work out I will. If I want to veg and play video games, I want to sit and zone out. However, I've wished for an Xbox version of Zelda for years, make it happen Nintendo.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by no10pin

Yep, people will jump on the next round for the sole purpose of reselling, and they'll be lucky to break even.

I get the popularity, because it's easy. People buying them for presents don't take into account where else the games are available, don't know that it doesn't allow for expansion, and think Raspberry Pi is available in the food court.

The no wireless aspect, no online store to buy additional games from and no expansion literally make this a $60 plug and play. Demand will be high, but as soon as the 2nd and 3rd restocks come out....look out. I do really believe you will be able to find these on sale for $40-50 by late January/Early Feb if you are patient. The Sega ones (which aren't bad) sell for $20/30 on sale, have a slot to play your own sega games and come with wireless controllers and controller ports for orginal genesis controllers.....and again....they go on sale for $20/30 which is where these may end up.

[Ephland]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

The no wireless aspect, no online store to buy additional games from and no expansion literally make this a $60 plug and play.

I assume a lot of people are like me and knew all this from the outset, and still wanted one.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by Ephland

I assume a lot of people are like me and knew all this from the outset, and still wanted one.

I agree, you may have missed the post where I also stated I would want one as well. BUT.....that doesn't disregard the fact that people will get bored with these quickly. Short attention spans, and the need for new technology will render these as the 'cool in the moment' toy of holiday season.

The demand at the moment is great, but if every walmart, target, gamestop and best buy get 50-100 more before December 25th...... will they be in stock at $59.99?....unlikely but maybe.....will they be selling for less then $100 on the secondary market?....probably.

I'm no expert, but I do know a lot about nostaligia when it comes to gaming. Shorter windows then re-sellers assume is more the point I'm trying to make.

[Bader]

Originally Posted by rcgdodge

Yeah, the Wii is terrible. Only 100 million sold.

PlayStation 2 Sony 2000 >155 million
Nintendo DS Nintendo 2004 154.02 million
Game Boy/Game Boy Color Nintendo 1989/1998 118.69 million
PlayStation Sony 1994 102.49 million
Wii Nintendo 2006 101.63 million
Xbox 360 Microsoft 2005 84 million
PlayStation 3 Sony 2006 >83.8 million
PlayStation Portable Sony 2004 82 million
Game Boy Advance Nintendo 2001 81.51 million
Nintendo Entertainment System Nintendo 1983 61.91 million

you missed my point as well...I don't care if it sold a trillion consoles....it is a failure because it is not competitive with today's gaming or market, again yes Nintendo sold over 100 million Wii consoles but the past 10 years Nintendo has lost billions of dollars and who still plays a Wii? No one except kids because you can find these on Craigslist and Pawn shops for $15-$20

from a business standpoint it is a FAILURE...you see when you produce something and you sell it and you don't make $$ off it it's a thing called net loss and maybe you like losing $$$

The new NES, yes it's very cool they brought it back for nostalgia and all that but to me it's a failure because at $60 Nintendo is not going to make $$ off it, as others have mentioned it is hot right now but eventually no one will play this either because they did not do it right....a built in console with 30 games?

If Nintendo did not produce handhelds and own licensing rights to Mario, Zelda and Pokemon they would have been Bankrupt

I can only imagine Hiroshi Yamauchi is rolling in his grave - god rest his soul at what his company has become!

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by Bader

you missed my point as well...I don't care if it sold a trillion consoles....it is a failure because it is not competitive with today's gaming or market, again yes Nintendo sold over 100 million Wii consoles but the past 10 years Nintendo has lost billions of dollars and who still plays a Wii? No one except kids because you can find these on Craigslist and Pawn shops for $15-$20

from a business standpoint it is a FAILURE...you see when you produce something and you sell it and you don't make $$ off it it's a thing called net loss and maybe you like losing $$$

The new NES, yes it's very cool they brought it back for nostalgia and all that but to me it's a failure because at $60 Nintendo is not going to make $$ off it, as others have mentioned it is hot right now but eventually no one will play this either because they did not do it right....a built in console with 30 games?

If Nintendo did not produce handhelds and own licensing rights to Mario, Zelda and Pokemon they would have been Bankrupt

I can only imagine Hiroshi Yamauchi is rolling in his grave - god rest his soul at what his company has become!

Nintendo is still king in Japan, it also was a concept that interested a ton of non-gamers. (My parents and Grandparents both bought and played them)

I think the mini console was a great move, but Nintendo needs to do one with Wifi and Expandable memory and sell the games digitally. As for making $$ off of it- see above, also I can make the same thing in my office for literally $10, which means Nintendo is making it for much cheaper- I bet this product nets them $30+ in profit per unit. Most of the other consoles see no where near this markup.

Also pretty sure Yamauchi was involved with the Wii in some fashion- IIRC there were YEARS of R&D involved in its creation and he sat as Chairman of the BOD for a while, in some capacity, after his retirement.

Anyhow, I'd get used to these "gimmicky" items from them- even if they're not profitable, they have close to enough money to stay open for another 100 years...

[Seahawks fan]

Originally Posted by smanzari

Nintendo is still king in Japan, it also was a concept that interested a ton of non-gamers. (My parents and Grandparents both bought and played them)

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This isn't the 1990s anymore and Video Games are mainstream. Japan is such a small market in game sales its not even funny. Battlefield 1 has sold 2 million copies this week and was the #1 seller in Japan where it sold 100K copies. Japan has innovation but they represent like 10% of game sales in the global market.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Bader

you missed my point as well...I don't care if it sold a trillion consoles....it is a failure because it is not competitive with today's gaming or market, again yes Nintendo sold over 100 million Wii consoles but the past 10 years Nintendo has lost billions of dollars and who still plays a Wii? No one except kids because you can find these on Craigslist and Pawn shops for $15-$20

from a business standpoint it is a FAILURE...you see when you produce something and you sell it and you don't make $$ off it it's a thing called net loss and maybe you like losing $$$

The new NES, yes it's very cool they brought it back for nostalgia and all that but to me it's a failure because at $60 Nintendo is not going to make $$ off it, as others have mentioned it is hot right now but eventually no one will play this either because they did not do it right....a built in console with 30 games?

If Nintendo did not produce handhelds and own licensing rights to Mario, Zelda and Pokemon they would have been Bankrupt

I can only imagine Hiroshi Yamauchi is rolling in his grave - god rest his soul at what his company has become!

Are you for real? Like, seriously, do you just think that whatever you feel is correct without actually looking at facts? Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, has generally made money on every single system they have sold. Sony and Microsoft generally sell their systems at a loss in hopes of making it back on licensing for games and accessories. That means, the Nintendo Wii, having sold over 100 million units, was probably one of the most profitable systems ever made. Also keep in mind that Nintendo sold the Wii at $249 for a very long time while costs to manufacture dropped.

Nintendo has not lost billions of dollars over the years. Over the past five years, they have averaged $62.87 million in profit per quarter.

Please, if you are going to make all these claims when information is readily available to you, I'd advise you to look at facts before just going with your gut.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

This isn't the 1990s anymore and Video Games are mainstream. Japan is such a small market in game sales its not even funny. Battlefield 1 has sold 2 million copies this week and was the #1 seller in Japan where it sold 100K copies. Japan has innovation but they represent like 10% of game sales in the global market.

This is 100% the truth. Microsoft cannot crack the Japanese market yet they don't seem to care one bit. North America and Europe are all they need to stay in the game and be profitable.

[Seahawks fan]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

This is 100% the truth. Microsoft cannot crack the Japanese market yet they don't seem to care one bit. North America and Europe are all they need to stay in the game and be profitable.

speaking of that I had to laugh when the weekly sales charts came out and Japan bought 1 yes 1 Xbox 360.. global sales were 5k Xbox one sold 584 while globaly they sold 224K

[sonnyday]

The Wii, released in 2006 drove record sales for Nintendo for the next 4 years. Basically keeping the company afloat during a recession (in Japan since since early 2000's and across the world in 2008.

Tough to call a product a failure when it basically saved Nintendo from going under, and even drove record profits during the Wii's prime.

Any more business analysis "bader"? What's next, going to tell us the lucrative business model of box breaking?

[timfsu2k]

Originally Posted by Bader

you missed my point as well...I don't care if it sold a trillion consoles....it is a failure because it is not competitive with today's gaming or market, again yes Nintendo sold over 100 million Wii consoles but the past 10 years Nintendo has lost billions of dollars and who still plays a Wii? No one except kids because you can find these on Craigslist and Pawn shops for $15-$20

from a business standpoint it is a FAILURE...you see when you produce something and you sell it and you don't make $$ off it it's a thing called net loss and maybe you like losing $$$

The new NES, yes it's very cool they brought it back for nostalgia and all that but to me it's a failure because at $60 Nintendo is not going to make $$ off it, as others have mentioned it is hot right now but eventually no one will play this either because they did not do it right....a built in console with 30 games?

If Nintendo did not produce handhelds and own licensing rights to Mario, Zelda and Pokemon they would have been Bankrupt

I can only imagine Hiroshi Yamauchi is rolling in his grave - god rest his soul at what his company has become!

This is either a trolling attempt or the dumbest statement ever made on the Blowout Cards forum.

[Seahawks fan]

The Wii sold well and was marketed towards every age group/family/Wiifit gaming. But when it boils down against other systems it had horrible controls especially in the 1st 3 years before the motion plus sensors came out. you could be playing wii sports with a toddler and pitch/box/bowl at 90 miles an hour and your toddler would flick the controller and throw just as fast if not harder than you.. it was all just a gimmick.

We saw way too many 3rd party developers jump on the bandwagon and make the worst games known to man. Graphics were worse, it wasn't even a dvd player, and had almost 0 online capability.

Yes it had some fun games but not as many as the 360/PS3 which did much more than the Wii.

I wouldn't call it a failure like a Virtual Boy or a 3D0 but there is a reason why Nintendo has now ventured away from the Wii and Wii-Us motion control games with their next system...the gimmick has ran dry.

[jpruitt2]

I found 2 of the remotes at my local Walmart tonight. Upon checkout I was told they could not sell them to me. I was first told they were not available in stores and after I showed them the peg from where I found them I was told they must have been recalled.

I was beyond pissed