2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Everyone should be hoping for quick and safe reopenings.

Duh haha, but not sure what to hope for when it comes to these antibody tests. One way, the low % may mean the spread is low. However, a high % meant herd immunity was close.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Well we're quickly approaching 15,000 posts.
I have 2 questions.
Have you made up your mind who you're voting for? (You don't have to say who, it's nobody's business.)
Who do you believe will win?

1. No

2. This guy

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Sorry, should have used the sarcasm font. I do believe people tend to become more conservative as they age though.

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[coltsnsox07]

I don't know if this counts as political but I read they guy who filmed that Arbery fella getting shot is also been charged w/ murder, that's pretty remarkable.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Duh haha, but not sure what to hope for when it comes to these antibody tests. One way, the low % may mean the spread is low. However, a high % meant herd immunity was close.

Scott Gottlieb was on CNBC this evening saying we're not even close to herd immunity. He said 5% of the US population hasn't even been exposed and in major metropolitan areas about 20% of the population had been.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/05/2...-immunity.html

Herd immunity part is at the 3:00 minute part

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

I don't know if this counts as political but I read they guy who filmed that Arbery fella getting shot is also been charged w/ murder, that's pretty remarkable.

Under Georgia law, a person can be charged with felony murder for committing any felony that causes the death of someone else. It does not require intent to kill and carries an automatic life sentence.

In the Glynn County police incident report on the shooting, Gregory McMichael told an officer that at one point Arbery “began running back the direction from which he came and `Roddy’ attempted to block him which was unsuccessful.” It’s the only mention in the police report of any potential involvement by Bryan.

https://apnews.com/6ddb1bc1bb83a928006c970e9fb1d00f

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Still waiting for an actual quote. I know I provided one for you - even though you already knew what he really said.

A quote needs a source, which yours lacked. Here's a summary of the 2016 Presidential debate in Nevada vs. Hillary Clinton, featuring more of the same shameful "the election is rigged" line Trump had likewise taken in the earlier link.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/polit...hts/index.html

Never mind any editorial slant, just note the verified Trump quotes. Everything Trump says in this would be destroyed by 95 percent of the post-ers here, if only someone else had said it. Crybaby antics are widely derided where pretty much all topics are concerned, except by those continuing to make excuses for Donald Trump, for whatever reason.

There is no doubt that had Trump somehow won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College, he'd still be whining over it, although possibly not as much as he whines as President. He may go down as the biggest sore winner in history.

If Trump was a card collector like us, and a Blowout Forum member, and he carried on with his cards like he does as President, he'd have been banned from here forever ago, for some manner of lying/cheating and/or bullying and nobody'd be making excuses for him.
Go figure.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Scott Gottlieb was on CNBC this evening saying we're not even close to herd immunity. He said 5% of the US population hasn't even been exposed and in major metropolitan areas about 20% of the population had been.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/05/2...-immunity.html

Herd immunity part is at the 3:00 minute part

So the lockdown was actually counterproductive?

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Scott Gottlieb was on CNBC this evening saying we're not even close to herd immunity. He said 5% of the US population hasn't even been exposed and in major metropolitan areas about 20% of the population had been.

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/05/2...-immunity.html

Herd immunity part is at the 3:00 minute part

Which makes me wonder if this virus doesn't spread nearly as much as people think. For Sweden to show that low of a % and they barely locked down, could be a virus that doesn't spread much.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

So the lockdown was actually counterproductive?

I don't understand this comment because the lockdown had nothing to do with trying to obtain herd immunity.

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by trixstar

I don't understand this comment because the lockdown had nothing to do with trying to obtain herd immunity.

Did you see who you’re responding to?

[Onions]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

So the lockdown was actually counterproductive?

Very much so. 3 weeks would have been plenty. If we would have protected our vulnerable and those in long term care facilities instead of forcing infected people in them, we would have far less than half the death toll and the fear mongering could stop. Instead here we sit. Ruined economy, everyone is afraid of everything, and no real end in sight.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Which makes me wonder if this virus doesn't spread nearly as much as people think. For Sweden to show that low of a % and they barely locked down, could be a virus that doesn't spread much.

Last I heard and I apologize if it's changed or found to be incorrect but it has a R0 of 2 to 2.5. So basically every person spreads it to 2-2.5 people. I think the problem is a lot of times you can go a week to 2 weeks with no symptoms. Just lots of unknowns so it's hard to really say at this point

[Onions]

Originally Posted by jdandns

A quote needs a source, which yours lacked. Here's a summary of the 2016 Presidential debate in Nevada vs. Hillary Clinton, featuring more of the same shameful "the election is rigged" line Trump had likewise taken in the earlier link.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/polit...hts/index.html

Never mind any editorial slant, just note the verified Trump quotes. Everything Trump says in this would be destroyed by 95 percent of the post-ers here, if only someone else had said it. Crybaby antics are widely derided where pretty much all topics are concerned, except by those continuing to make excuses for Donald Trump, for whatever reason.

There is no doubt that had Trump somehow won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College, he'd still be whining over it, although possibly not as much as he whines as President. He may go down as the biggest sore winner in history.

If Trump was a card collector like us, and a Blowout Forum member, and he carried on with his cards like he does as President, he'd have been banned from here forever ago, for some manner of lying/cheating and/or bullying and nobody'd be making excuses for him.
Go figure.

So he never said that he would not accept the results. Got it.

I remember this debate and felt like it was just a question to try and get Trump to say something about losing the election so the media could spend the next week promoting stories about how Trump thinks he is gonna lose. It was a silly question that deserved a silly answer. I wonder how Al Gore would have answered it if that question were posed to him prior to election day 2000?

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

A quote needs a source, which yours lacked. Here's a summary of the 2016 Presidential debate in Nevada vs. Hillary Clinton, featuring more of the same shameful "the election is rigged" line Trump had likewise taken in the earlier link.



https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/polit...hts/index.html



Never mind any editorial slant, just note the verified Trump quotes. Everything Trump says in this would be destroyed by 95 percent of the post-ers here, if only someone else had said it. Crybaby antics are widely derided where pretty much all topics are concerned, except by those continuing to make excuses for Donald Trump, for whatever reason.



There is no doubt that had Trump somehow won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College, he'd still be whining over it, although possibly not as much as he whines as President. He may go down as the biggest sore winner in history.



If Trump was a card collector like us, and a Blowout Forum member, and he carried on with his cards like he does as President, he'd have been banned from here forever ago, for some manner of lying/cheating and/or bullying and nobody'd be making excuses for him.

Go figure.

Considering you share a lot of the same traits as Trump I'd say you're wrong about that last part.
Well in fairness, not just the last part.

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[LoveRookies]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

I don't know if this counts as political but I read they guy who filmed that Arbery fella getting shot is also been charged w/ murder, that's pretty remarkable.

No chance he gets convicted of felony murder

[preakness]

Fredo

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

I don't know if this counts as political but I read they guy who filmed that Arbery fella getting shot is also been charged w/ murder, that's pretty remarkable.

Note to self. Never film anything and give it to the authorities.

[TheFrenzy]

When you start arresting the people who film murders, you're going to start seeing fewer murder films as evidence appear.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Considering you share a lot of the same traits as Trump I'd say you're wrong about that last part.
Well in fairness, not just the last part.

Got me good.

Originally Posted by Onions

So he never said that he would not accept the results. Got it.

I remember this debate and felt like it was just a question to try and get Trump to say something about losing the election so the media could spend the next week promoting stories about how Trump thinks he is gonna lose. It was a silly question that deserved a silly answer. I wonder how Al Gore would have answered it if that question were posed to him prior to election day 2000?

Trump is serious and resolute, a refreshing straight shooter at all times, except for, like, when he prescribed disinfectant or refused to wear a mask today even when everyone else is, and for very good reason, something necessary to reopen everything as soon as possible.
In those cases, the President was just being sarcastic (towards people he wasn't talking to at the time) or spiteful (towards the same people he wasn't being sarcastic to before). Got it.

As for Gore's decorum if he'd been wronged in a different way than he was wronged in 2000, it's hard to say, but like Hillary, and unlike Trump, Gore also won the popular vote, so Trump couldn't come from the same place. Gore won lots of elections throughout his career. Given his ascension to the heights of world politics, Trump is rare in that he has never known more people voting for him than against him in a general election. Clearly that bothers him.

Look what happens lately when the person with fewer actual votes is sworn in as President: George W. Bush and Trump, one disaster after another, actual and metaphorical. At least W. Bush had the decency to slink away in disgrace. Trump wallows in the foamy loam of his own complete corruption, making terrible sounds all the while. Crazy times ahead, no matter what.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

A quote needs a source, which yours lacked. Here's a summary of the 2016 Presidential debate in Nevada vs. Hillary Clinton, featuring more of the same shameful "the election is rigged" line Trump had likewise taken in the earlier link.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/polit...hts/index.html

Never mind any editorial slant, just note the verified Trump quotes. Everything Trump says in this would be destroyed by 95 percent of the post-ers here, if only someone else had said it. Crybaby antics are widely derided where pretty much all topics are concerned, except by those continuing to make excuses for Donald Trump, for whatever reason.

There is no doubt that had Trump somehow won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College, he'd still be whining over it, although possibly not as much as he whines as President. He may go down as the biggest sore winner in history.

If Trump was a card collector like us, and a Blowout Forum member, and he carried on with his cards like he does as President, he'd have been banned from here forever ago, for some manner of lying/cheating and/or bullying and nobody'd be making excuses for him.
Go figure.

Soooooo, no quote, got it.

Standard.

[cnewby]

Oh look, more deflection when the lie is exposed. Again.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Soooooo, no quote, got it.

Standard.

Entire dated articles with numerous confirmed quotes and video > "quotes" with no source

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Have a good night, dudes, off to the Drive-In...

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Entire dated articles with numerous confirmed quotes and video > "quotes" with no source

TwennnnnnnnyTwennnnnnnnnnnnnnnyTwoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Have a good night, dudes, off to the Drive-In...

It's your source, show us his words. You know - the ones that came out of his mouth.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Got me good.



Trump is serious and resolute, a refreshing straight shooter at all times, except for, like, when he prescribed disinfectant or refused to wear a mask today even when everyone else is, and for very good reason, something necessary to reopen everything as soon as possible.
In those cases, the President was just being sarcastic (towards people he wasn't talking to at the time) or spiteful (towards the same people he wasn't being sarcastic to before). Got it.

As for Gore's decorum if he'd been wronged in a different way than he was wronged in 2000, it's hard to say, but like Hillary, and unlike Trump, Gore also won the popular vote, so Trump couldn't come from the same place. Gore won lots of elections throughout his career. Given his ascension to the heights of world politics, Trump is rare in that he has never known more people voting for him than against him in a general election. Clearly that bothers him.

Look what happens lately when the person with fewer actual votes is sworn in as President: George W. Bush and Trump, one disaster after another, actual and metaphorical. At least W. Bush had the decency to slink away in disgrace. Trump wallows in the foamy loam of his own complete corruption, making terrible sounds all the while. Crazy times ahead, no matter what.

What's funny is you think Trump does and says things to rile up his base, when the reality is, it's people just like yourself he's aiming to rile up.
He's pretty successful at it too.
Before anyone goes there, no not exactly presidential but as stated before, we knew what he was when we voted for him.
Finally, someone that fights back.


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