2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 586

GeechQuest · 05-19-2020, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I was curious what the scoring is like. How they factored in certain things. I’ve been to schools where scoring is high and obviously low. A big factor was race and financial status.

Would you like to see the correlation between those as well?

Generally speaking, the more diverse the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the richer the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the Republican states are:

-Less diverse
-Poorer

It is what it is.

Siberian13 · 05-19-2020, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Would you like to see the correlation between those as well?

Generally speaking, the more diverse the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the richer the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the Republican states are:

-Less diverse
-Poorer

It is what it is.

I assume Atlanta schools rank poorly in their states rankings. But I don’t think Atlanta is republican. Think it’s more democratic.

Boo · 05-19-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I mean, the Democratic states generally score better in anything education related...

As they should spending (taxing) at double the rate.

Boo · 05-19-2020, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I assume Atlanta schools rank poorly in their states rankings. But I don’t think Atlanta is republican. Thin it’s more democratic.

Don't let facts get in the way of his daily topic

Siberian13 · 05-19-2020, 01:24 PM

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Don't let facts get in the way of his daily topic

I don’t know if it’s facts. Why I was asking.

Boo · 05-19-2020, 01:25 PM

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I don’t know if it’s facts. Why I was asking.

https://patch.com/georgia/buckhead/a...s-best-schools

cnewby · 05-19-2020, 01:27 PM

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https://patch.com/georgia/buckhead/a...s-best-schools

Wow Atlanta is dumb.

GeechQuest · 05-19-2020, 01:28 PM

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I assume Atlanta schools rank poorly in their states rankings. But I don’t think Atlanta is republican. Think it’s more democratic.

I dunno? Georgia sucks.

Again, macro vs micro. So in your example, Atlanta isn't enough to flip the state democratic, but is enough to bring all the scores for the entire state down.

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As they should spending (taxing) at double the rate.

I had always heard that you can't throw money at the education problem and that money isn't the answer...

Boo · 05-19-2020, 01:28 PM

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Wow Atlanta is dumb.

A- for clubs and activities

preakness · 05-19-2020, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I assume Atlanta schools rank poorly in their states rankings. But I don’t think Atlanta is republican. Think it’s more democratic.

Chicago public schools blow and they are democrats

GeechQuest · 05-19-2020, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

I assume Atlanta schools rank poorly in their states rankings. But I don’t think Atlanta is republican. Think it’s more democratic.

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Wow Atlanta is dumb.

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Chicago public schools blow and they are democrats

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Would it matter, or are you on the "Republican" side of the scores and need me to explain the difference between micro and macro...

Well I guess this about settles it....

Siberian13 · 05-19-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

https://patch.com/georgia/buckhead/a...s-best-schools

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Wow Atlanta is dumb.

Yeah I know all those areas that scored high. Fulton was #30, being propped up by the norther part of the county I assume. Dekalb county didn’t even break the top 75. They were heaviest democratic voters by county in the state with Clayton county. Gwinnett county ranked #21 and Cobb county ranked #16. Those are the four main counties.

Siberian13 · 05-19-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

A- for clubs and activities

Strip clubs were always fun. Wish they had a casino.

cnewby · 05-19-2020, 01:52 PM

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Well I guess this about settles it....

Was my statement false?

btimm · 05-19-2020, 02:05 PM

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I don't like Trump as a person

Curious if Dems actually like pelosi

Wonder if Dems actually think Biden would be an excellent president

Long time lurker, first time poster in this thread. I am registered as an independent, but my views mostly align with classical liberalism. Mostly.

To answer your questions, I do not like Pelosi. I doubt most of the democrats like her, but the outspoken and far left do. I think she behaves like a child far too often for my liking.

I think Biden would be a mediocre president. I think his cabinet selections though would be significantly better than Trump's cabinet. Same for his choices for other important positions.

btimm · 05-19-2020, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Would you like to see the correlation between those as well?

Generally speaking, the more diverse the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the richer the school the higher the educational scores.

Generally speaking, the Republican states are:

-Less diverse
-Poorer

It is what it is.

You will see the best test scores not in the cities and not in the less populated rural areas of the country. They will primarily be in the suburbs of cities. What is the correlation? It is not political affiliation whatsoever. It is money driven. I live in the suburbs of Charlotte and I will tell you that the majority of the people I know with kids who are doing well in school are both equally Republican and Democrat. The commonality is being financially secure and valuing education, not political leanings.

GeechQuest · 05-19-2020, 02:40 PM

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You will see the best test scores not in the cities and not in the less populated rural areas of the country. They will primarily be in the suburbs of cities. What is the correlation? It is not political affiliation whatsoever. It is money driven. I live in the suburbs of Charlotte and I will tell you that the majority of the people I know with kids who are doing well in school are both equally Republican and Democrat. The commonality is being financially secure and valuing education, not political leanings.

Again, micro vs macro.

If we're taking it on a state level, which is all I stated originally, the states that tend to vote Republican generally have lower marks for education.

If you want to argue it on a micro level and find the nuance, sure. I wasn't doing that though.

Are all Republicans dumb? No.
Are all Democrats smart? No.

Do the states that are made up primarily of Democrats rank higher in education than states that are made up primarily of Republicans? Yes.

TheHeel · 05-19-2020, 03:11 PM

I would like to know who they polled with SurveyMonkey but if this is legit, ouch. This is especially telling...

“ Among the highest are a trio of moderate Republicans who have distanced themselves from Trump — Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) at 85 percent, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott (R) at 82 percent, and Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) at 82 percent. They occupy three of the top five slots, and six of the top seven are Republicans.”

49 of 50 governors have better coronavirus poll numbers than Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rs-than-trump/

Siberian13 · 05-19-2020, 03:14 PM

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I would like to know who they polled with SurveyMonkey but if this is legit, ouch. This is especially telling...

“ Among the highest are a trio of moderate Republicans who have distanced themselves from Trump — Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) at 85 percent, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott (R) at 82 percent, and Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) at 82 percent. They occupy three of the top five slots, and six of the top seven are Republicans.”

49 of 50 governors have better coronavirus poll numbers than Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rs-than-trump/

New York and Jersey at 11 and 12. Something is wrong with surveyMonkey.

RedSoxFan28 · 05-19-2020, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by btimm

Long time lurker, first time poster in this thread. I am registered as an independent, but my views mostly align with classical liberalism. Mostly.

To answer your questions, I do not like Pelosi. I doubt most of the democrats like her, but the outspoken and far left do. I think she behaves like a child far too often for my liking.

I think Biden would be a mediocre president. I think his cabinet selections though would be significantly better than Trump's cabinet. Same for his choices for other important positions.

Think the opposite

rocketfan86 · 05-19-2020, 03:23 PM

What does one do when you are moderate on a lot of major issues but cannot stand what either major political party has become?

Pete Schweddy · 05-19-2020, 03:33 PM

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What does one do when you are moderate on a lot of major issues but cannot stand what either major political party has become?

Hope each party goes full bore to the fringe ideal that a third party becomes a relevant option.

pac213up · 05-19-2020, 03:44 PM

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What does one do when you are moderate on a lot of major issues but cannot stand what either major political party has become?

Last election I voted 3rd party. Previous 4 elections I have gone back and forth. Basically at this point I like to see a balance of power between both parties as I feel like too much of either is not a good thing.

It gets complicated when both parties produce these types of candidates for President though.

preakness · 05-19-2020, 03:52 PM

Why doesn't trump just wear a mask when he enters these plants and hospitals?

It doesn't make him weak

Just wear the mask to be example and to shut media up

It's not like FDR wanting to stand up when he called for Congress to declare war in Japan

rman112 · 05-19-2020, 04:25 PM

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https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...ostcount=14351

So what is the answer? What should have been done so that we wouldn't have had a lot of people dying, AND a lot of people out of jobs?

View Poll Results: Who wins these elections? (you can pick multiple)
Donald Trump	44	53.66%
Joe Biden	38	46.34%
Trump Wins Florida	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Florida	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Georgia	44	53.66%
Biden Wins Georgia	12	14.63%
Trump Wins Ohio	43	52.44%
Biden Wins Ohio	16	19.51%
Trump Wins Pennsylvania	27	32.93%
Biden Wins Pennsylvania	34	41.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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TheHeel Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 15,595	I would like to know who they polled with SurveyMonkey but if this is legit, ouch. This is especially telling... “ Among the highest are a trio of moderate Republicans who have distanced themselves from Trump — Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) at 85 percent, Vermont Gov. Phil Scott (R) at 82 percent, and Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R) at 82 percent. They occupy three of the top five slots, and six of the top seven are Republicans.” 49 of 50 governors have better coronavirus poll numbers than Trump https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...rs-than-trump/ __________________ 48,230, 52,879, 40,400, 4,780 Pending Deals:

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rocketfan86 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 2,120 nsutrumpet08	What does one do when you are moderate on a lot of major issues but cannot stand what either major political party has become? __________________ https://sportscardalbum.com/u/rocketfan86 Collecting all Houston Rockets players, current and former.

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preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	Why doesn't trump just wear a mask when he enters these plants and hospitals? It doesn't make him weak Just wear the mask to be example and to shut media up It's not like FDR wanting to stand up when he called for Congress to declare war in Japan