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[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Students such as your life have no real world experience. Your opinion means little to most of us on here. You guys run up debt, then piss and moan when it's time to pay. You guys feel hard working taxpayers like myself should pay for your lazy arse.

You guys own nothing, and have no clue the responsibilities that go into running a household and raising children. Not to mention potentially running a business and being a good spouse.

You young kiddos need to learn how to grow up. It's absolutely pathetic.

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

Cold blooded, lacking tact, ruthless, and almost completely true.

"About 14 million college students are working, according to a new report from the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce (Georgetown Center). For the past 25 years, more than 70 percent of college students have been taking time from their studies to earn a paycheck."

https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-conten...ers__FINAL.pdf

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Amen brother! I am absolutely disgusted by how young people view the world today.

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Its a dangerous precedent being set. They are taught NOT to be responsible. They are taught to share their "feelings" which ultimately is promoting weakness. Todays young liberal male...... I don't know. I better not get into it.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by Saraste

One thing that I found glaringly absent in this thread is the fact that, in spite of how many people here (myself included) wanted to shake things up by voting third party, neither of the serious third party candidates will end up receiving 5% of the popular vote. They will not be able to get the benefits that come with that threshold. The country is stuck with the 2-party system that more than a couple of people on this thread were clamoring to expand.

This is a great point. I went into the booth 100% intending to vote for Trump but when I got to the moment of truth, I sat and stared for a few minutes as I wanted very much to vote for Johnson. As much as I'd love to legitimize the party, this election was just too important and I couldn't pull the lever for Gary. I voted straight ticket Libertarian in all of the other races though.

However, I'm still not sure that a third party is the answer to be honest. I'd really like to see both major parties trend back towards the center and bring us all back together. I don't quite get why they've strayed so far to the edges in the first place but it has caused far more harm than good.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Its a dangerous precedent being set. They are taught NOT to be responsible. They are taught to share their "feelings" which ultimately is promoting weakness. Todays young liberal male...... I don't know. I better not get into it.

Area Liberal No Longer Recognizes Fanciful, Wildly Inaccurate Mental Picture Of Country He Lives In - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

"About 14 million college students are working, according to a new report from the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce (Georgetown Center). For the past 25 years, more than 70 percent of college students have been taking time from their studies to earn a paycheck."

https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-conten...ers__FINAL.pdf

Lol working a part time job while going to school is a lot different than working for a living while owning a house and taking care of a family.

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[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Lol working a part time job while going to school is a lot different than working for a living while owning a house and taking care of a family.

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"• More people are working full-time while in college. About 40 percent of undergraduates and 76 percent of graduate students work at least 30 hours a week; 25 percent of all working learners are simultaneously employed full-time and enrolled in college full-time; and 19 percent of all working learners have children."

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

"• More people are working full-time while in college. About 40 percent of undergraduates and 76 percent of graduate students work at least 30 hours a week; 25 percent of all working learners are simultaneously employed full-time and enrolled in college full-time; and 19 percent of all working learners have children."

Do they want a participation ribbon??

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[duwal]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

We should break the entire West Coast away from the United States. Its disgraceful the things they spew, the laws they allow. San Francisco is an embarrassment(just one example).

Well that's pretty uncalled for and narrow-minded

[Pete Schweddy]

Good old SF Bay Area. My wonderful home.
There are more articles dealing with how people are reacting, rather then on the actual election coverage. The media and the liberals never even considered the possibility she wouldn't win. They had already accepted it as fact, so now they think it was taken from them.


The article about the high-schoolers walking out, is the headline article.
Thousands of Bay Area students walk out following Trump election - SFGate

Anger over Trump explodes; protesters set fires, smash glass - SFGate

What are you telling your kids? - SFGate

[TheHeel]

[Gambit C10]

Originally Posted by Clarka3

calm down, sunshine. I thought it was an interesting statistic.

and i don't think you would want to know the answer to your second question, but i'll do a quick cursory google for you.

as to which states have the highest number of welfare recipients- Mississippi (45.3%), Louisiana (44%), Tennessee (41%), South Dakota (40.8%), Missouri (39.4%), Montana (39%), and Georgia (37.9%).

all of those states flipped red last night.

Mississippi (58/47 Trump) with just under half the districts being blue (was not expecting that as blue in the red-won states tended to be around big cities)
Louisiana (58/38 Trump) with most blue around BR, NO, and Shreve.
Tenn (61/35 Trump) with blue being Nashville and Memphis
SD (61/32 Trump)
MIzzou (57/38 Trump) with the blue being near KC and STL
Montana (57/35 Trump) with blue being near the big cities (but not Helena)
Georgia (51/46 Trump) with the blue clustered around Atlanta, Augusta, Savannah, and a little to the southwest.



I'm sure everybody's seen that 2014 story about the welfare capital of the country being in KY where the place is 99% white and 95% republican, and also flipped red overwhelmingly for Trump at a 63/33 split with the only blue districts being around Louisville and Lexington.


NPR broke it all down for you if you'd like to take a look yourself.

counties with the most unemployment voted Trump in Ohio and Michigan. Least college educated voted Trump.


here's Ohio:

Ohio 2016 Presidential And State Election Results : NPR

you can click "state results" in the top right and find your state to take a look.

even in California, which was a blue state, you find that Trump fills out most of the lower bracket in the college-educated data.

The blue areas of Louisiana are where a lot of the welfare participants live and are also the high crime areas. New Orleans is an oddity with a lot of the hippie culture (not meant in a bad way) mixed in. Generally those that are doing well but not rich enough to live in the elite neighborhoods of BR and NO live in towns and smaller cities surrounding the two cities primarily due to crime and awful public schools. This is why BR and NO vote democratic and the immediate surrounding areas vote Republican usually. There's more to the story, but I tried to give the best cliff notes. It's pretty fascinating I think. At one time it was referred to as white-flight but now it's more about if the area in BR or Nola that you're from turned sketchy you move out to outer cities for better quality of living.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

We should break the entire West Coast away from the United States. Its disgraceful the things they spew, the laws they allow. San Francisco is an embarrassment(just one example).

Originally Posted by duwal

Well that's pretty uncalled for and narrow-minded

Yes California Independence Campaign
Read this last week. There's a growing liberal movement for California to secede from the US.

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by duwal

Well that's pretty uncalled for and narrow-minded

I'm with CD7 and I'm born and raised on the west coast. There are tons of reasons that I left and this election has summed up most of them.

[freethrowtommy]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

Yes California Independence Campaign
Read this last week. There's a growing liberal movement for California to secede from the US.

Doesn't Texas threaten to do this weekly?

Leaving the US isn't strictly a leftist thing. The hardcore groups on both sides always want to leave when things don't go their way. That includes the right.

[jrinne17]

I don't check Facebook very often but I find it funny how all my democratic friends who are atheist are now quoting scripture. Almost as funny as Hillary quoting scripture today, I would have had more respect for her if she quote scripture from the satanic verses.

[Gambit C10]

Originally Posted by tennelson55

I'd bet you there are.
Today, in my social welfare class in NY, the class seemed defeated dude. It was apathetic. I don't feel defeated at all. I disagree with republicans in general on the tax issues, but agree that they provide a lot for the US in terms of business.

Our class had 2/26 students absent and there may have been one female who voted trump in our entire class. Majority of students showed. It was a sad day for most and myself.

I also take stats. I'd say 1/2 the students are trump voters and 1/2 Clinton supporters. We had 1/5 of 170 students not there.
I'm not sure what to make of it.

I'm not much older than you and was in the college environment for a long while. When you're broke taxes are evil because you don't always understand the full story even though you think you do.

Once you start making more money than you ever had (I grew up on the poor to lower middle class) you start realizing the necessary evil of taxes when the taxes are structured appropriately. I will say you will probably seek equality in corporate vs individual taxation which is where I still get a bit flustered especially if you land in a field where you get to personally see the breaks massive corps get but often times old school republicans fight to keep. Without proper taxation, social programs struggle.

[vwnut13]

[AceGambit3]

Originally Posted by tacoma34

My wifes sister goes to University of Washington. Her teacher walked in today crying and told the students that there will be no participation points or homework for the rest of the week and that they can stay home if they need to. There is also multiple "healing centers" on campus if people need to talk.

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

.........................I...................I...Have no words for that.

That is being dangerously mentally weak.

If nothing else, this was a much needed punch in the gut for those entitled children.

There was a 19 year old girl here that was taking Trump lawn signs and when she was caught said "I don't agree with your views".

It's out of control.

thats because they haven't created a word yet to describe that level of patheticness.....just wow.

What's funny is I was at my parents house and I told my 10 yr old brother about the school thing and he went "please tell me you're joking" I said nope and he just walked to his room laughing hysterically. A lil later he came out of his room and asked "Do you think the parents will let me take tomorrow off from school for same reason" and told him go ask the parents....all I heard was "No I raised you better than that" and "worth a shot, tomorrow's nacho day anyways" LOL.

That boy is something else.

[freethrowtommy]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Students such as your life have no real world experience. Your opinion means little to most of us on here. You guys run up debt, then piss and moan when it's time to pay. You guys feel hard working taxpayers like myself should pay for your lazy arse.

You guys own nothing, and have no clue the responsibilities that go into running a household and raising children. Not to mention potentially running a business and being a good spouse.

You young kiddos need to learn how to grow up. It's absolutely pathetic.

You were a kid at one time. Get off your high horse for once and stop being an unrelenting prick.

Just because you are further along in life than some doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it.

[Firerunner4]

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

"About 14 million college students are working, according to a new report from the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce (Georgetown Center). For the past 25 years, more than 70 percent of college students have been taking time from their studies to earn a paycheck."

https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-conten...ers__FINAL.pdf

Wow, you sure proved me wrong. Working 20 hours at "xyz" is certainly the same as having a career, owning a home, having a family etc.

Give me a break. You are better than that response.

[Firerunner4]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Wow, you sure proved me wrong. Working 20 hours at "xyz" is certainly the same as having a career, owning a home, having a family etc.

Give me a break. You are better than that response.

What do you want?

They go to college to get those things you described

My god man

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by freethrowtommy

You were a kid at one time. Get off your high horse for once and stop being an unrelenting prick.

Just because you are further along in life than some doesn't mean you need to be a dick about it.

I was a kid in rural Ohio. I was taught that nothing comes easy and that nobody will ever give me anything that's worth getting.

Not going out and earning or expecting someone to pay your way is a disgusting, frowned upon way of life where I come from.

[Firerunner4]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

I was a kid in rural Ohio. I was taught that nothing comes easy and that nobody will ever give me anything that's worth getting.

Not going out and earning or expecting someone to pay your way is a disgusting, frowned upon way of life where I come from.

Okay, we get it

You are better than everyone, had it harder than everyone, work harder than everyone, learned better than everyone, and that you don't like dogs in your yard

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by Firerunner4

What do you want?

They go to college to get those things you described

My god man

They do? Many wind up back home and they want to have all of their debt forgiven. They run up the debt spending it on school, then another 50% on complete BS. The kids then try to push Bernie in because they hear "FREE COLLEGE, LOAN FORGIVENESS". Its disgusting.