Anthony Davis Requests a trade

[Erikthredd]

Originally Posted by GoNYGoNYGo

But if NO is way under the cap which they could be if they go full on rebuild and trade Holiday and Randle today then renounce their rights to Morris, Smith, and Stanley Johnson in the offseason then don't the salaries not have to match can't they take on more than they are sending out?

Although I'd hate to see this trade happen without an AD commitment,if it happened I would love to see Boston come out of it with enough cap space to add another max type player. Honestly I just don't think its gonna happen that way.

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by Erikthredd

He was Boston's alpha as a rookie in the playoffs and put up 20 or more in 10 of his 19 games. He definitely picked up a few bad habits from Kobe in the offseason but anyone watching him on a nightly basis can see that he's been taking it to the hoop much more than he was earlier in the season.
Maybe easily was too strong a word but without Kyrie & Morris(who is a blackhole on offense if he gets the ball) he'd have the freedom to take more shots. He's also an 86% FT shooter so getting to the line a few more times a game would only add to his ppg average.

The Kobe thing needs to go. He is settling for that mid range Kobe jumper way too much. I mean he is so good getting to the hoop and hitting 3s within the offensive flow, but he just wants that iso mid range like Kobe.

[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by pgisback

He's 20 years old. You talk about him like he's 27. Which is why people think he's so valuable.

no actually I talk about him like he is 20!!

as in he has done nothing to this point to show that he would easily be among the league leaders in scoring!!

its all just hype/guessing from either celtic fans or ppl that collect him...

Kyrie leaving means he will easily get up to 25ppg?? why? if kyrie left then Tatum was the #1 guys lets say...uh then defenses will be keying in on him more often...

i am not saying he wouldnt go up in PPG...but to say he would easily score 25 when others around the league who are considered way better offensive talents dont score that amount is ridiculous to me...nothing to base it on other than people are HOPING he can do that

[pgisback]

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

no actually I talk about him like he is 20!!

as in he has done nothing to this point to show that he would easily be among the league leaders in scoring!!

its all just hype/guessing from either celtic fans or ppl that collect him...

Kyrie leaving means he will easily get up to 25ppg?? why? if kyrie left then Tatum was the #1 guys lets say...uh then defenses will be keying in on him more often...

i am not saying he wouldnt go up in PPG...but to say he would easily score 25 when others around the league who are considered way better offensive talents dont score that amount is ridiculous to me...nothing to base it on other than people are HOPING he can do that

He's 20 years old on a team trying to compete for a championship. I liken it more to the Kawhi situation. He's only getting 13 shots a game, not in a situation where he can just be terrible and work on his game like playing for the Suns or Knicks. The way he played in the playoffs last year and how he fits in on this team as a non-role player, is amazing for a 20 year old. What exactly has he done to make you think he won't be better in 3-4 years, lol.

[Erikthredd]

Originally Posted by pgisback

The Kobe thing needs to go. He is settling for that mid range Kobe jumper way too much. I mean he is so good getting to the hoop and hitting 3s within the offensive flow, but he just wants that iso mid range like Kobe.

I have no problem with his iso's now compared to earlier in the season when he would jack up shot after shot with his body all contorted & falling away. At least now he's squaring himself up before shooting most of the time and other times he's backing defenders down to either take a higher percentage shot or getting to the line.

[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by pgisback

He's 20 years old on a team trying to compete for a championship. I liken it more to the Kawhi situation. He's only getting 13 shots a game, not in a situation where he can just be terrible and work on his game like playing for the Suns or Knicks. The way he played in the playoffs last year and how he fits in on this team as a non-role player, is amazing for a 20 year old. What exactly has he done to make you think he won't be better in 3-4 years, lol.

i understand that...but the premise was that kyrie would be gone and he would be the alpha...which in my opinion would mean that they were not a contending team any longer...atleast for the time being at that point...and if these other guys i mentioned cant get to 25ppg on horrible teams...i find it a pretty big reach that Tatum would get there...that is all...you said he easily would put up 25ppg...which also to me means it wouldnt be a 25.1 type ppg...but that is just how i took the statement...like you saying easily to me means like 27-28ppg...these other guys have green lights all day long basically and they arent at 25...sorry that i dont think offensively Tatum is on that level...

sure he could get better...he likely will get better...but 25+ is not just "getting better"....everyone says Mitchell is this great talent...and dynamic scorer...and he is around 21-22ppg as a "volume shooter" as some call him...

my only point was basically its really hard to score 25ppg in the NBA...lol...thats all

[theleica]

Part of the Lakers AD trade is gone.

The Clippers are trading Mike Muscala to the Lakers for Michael Beasley and Ivica Zubac, league sources tell ESPN. - Woj

[blackandgold]

After considering the possibility of shutting down All-NBA center Anthony Davis, the New Orleans Pelicans plan to allow Davis back into the lineup for the rest of the season, league sources tell ESPN.

[Burt-Reynolds]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

After considering the possibility of shutting down All-NBA center Anthony Davis, the New Orleans Pelicans plan to allow Davis back into the lineup for the rest of the season, league sources tell ESPN.

Good. I hope he balls out and carries them right to the cusp of an 8 seed but fall short. So NO gets a bad lottery pick instead of trying to tank into the Zion sweepstakes.

[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

After considering the possibility of shutting down All-NBA center Anthony Davis, the New Orleans Pelicans plan to allow Davis back into the lineup for the rest of the season, league sources tell ESPN.

was this a real option? i mean like legally or rules-wise per the NBA...they wouldnt just allow NO to bench this guy would they??

what would stop PHX, CLE, ATL or whoever else from just sitting their best players then to go for #1 pick odds

[blackandgold]

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Good. I hope he balls out and carries them right to the cusp of an 8 seed but fall short. So NO gets a bad lottery pick instead of trying to tank into the Zion sweepstakes.

Sounds like a disgruntled Laker fan. It’s going to be alright you got Lebron on your side

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

was this a real option? i mean like legally or rules-wise per the NBA...they wouldnt just allow NO to bench this guy would they??

what would stop PHX, CLE, ATL or whoever else from just sitting their best players then to go for #1 pick odds

The tanking is just a side benefit. The fear is that AD would get an injury like Cousins and the Pelicans would lose all/most of this trade value.

[starfox]

It costed way too much to acquire Davis. The Lakers would have crippled its team over one player. They should be glad it didn't happen. Davis is very good, but he's no Tim Duncan. The Lakers also blew it by publicizing the details of this deal step-by-step.

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[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

The tanking is just a side benefit. The fear is that AD would get an injury like Cousins and the Pelicans would lose all/most of this trade value.

right but that is a fear for a ton of teams all the time...they cant just sit him while healthy and the NBA would be ok with that...i cant imagine that being the case at least

[jstasyk1121]

Originally Posted by starfox

It costed way too much to acquire Davis. The Lakers would have crippled its team over one player. They should be glad it didn't happen. Davis is very good, but he's no Tim Duncan. The Lakers also blew it by publicizing the details of this deal step-by-step.

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i think honestly since we know so much about the offers that were made that it actually puts a lot of pressure on Pelicans...cuz now everyone in the world will know if they f'd it up badly based on what they end up getting for AD

especially if they do end up trading to Lakers...it will almost guaranteed to be less of an offer...zubac already gone so technically it would be less no matter what unless they added more picks...

its going to be so easy to compare what they end up getting since it was so public...that doesnt bode well for them most likely

"oh you got to keep AD for an extra 30 games and still lose...and you didnt get as good of an offer...congrats"

at the same time...if they get tatum straight up for AD there are people on here that will claim they did better so there is that

[theleica]

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

right but that is a fear for a ton of teams all the time...they cant just sit him while healthy and the NBA would be ok with that...i cant imagine that being the case at least

I saw somewhere earlier today that the Pelicans were told by the NBA they couldn’t sit him if he was healthy.


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[Burt-Reynolds]

Originally Posted by starfox

It costed way too much to acquire Davis. The Lakers would have crippled its team over one player. They should be glad it didn't happen. Davis is very good, but he's no Tim Duncan. The Lakers also blew it by publicizing the details of this deal step-by-step.

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Not saying that nothing leaked from the Lakers side, but the majority of everything that came out was from NewOrleans. They played this like some super bitter petty #@#@#@#@#@#@es. They were mad at AD, LeBron, Klutch, and the Lakers and wanted to try to do as much damage as possible to everyone involved.

They never had any intention of trading with them. It was disgraceful how they handled it. If the situation was reversed the Lakers org would be getting destroyed right now and every gm in the league would be demanding an investigation and punishement.

[starfox]

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

i think honestly since we know so much about the offers that were made that it actually puts a lot of pressure on Pelicans...cuz now everyone in the world will know if they f'd it up badly based on what they end up getting for AD



especially if they do end up trading to Lakers...it will almost guaranteed to be less of an offer...zubac already gone so technically it would be less no matter what unless they added more picks...



its going to be so easy to compare what they end up getting since it was so public...that doesnt bode well for them most likely



"oh you got to keep AD for an extra 30 games and still lose...and you didnt get as good of an offer...congrats"



at the same time...if they get tatum straight up for AD there are people on here that will claim they did better so there is that

I would have taken Tatum and a two first round picks. I wouldn't have let this drag out so publicly for more than a week. Discretion: I guess the Pelicans never heard of it. Now, you have to get Davis through the next 30 or so games without injury.

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[clipperboy24]

I wonder if the clippers will be able to sneak into the negotiations. If they don’t make the playoffs they will have their lottery pick, 2020 pick from the Sixers and the unprotected pick from the heat. They could also add on a future pick of theirs (2022 or later) and technically take back some salary if need be. If the clippers can sign Kawhi, a team with Kawhi, AD, SGA, Shamet, J-Rob, Zubac and whatever other pieces could look pretty dang good

[starfox]

Originally Posted by clipperboy24

I wonder if the clippers will be able to sneak into the negotiations. If they don’t make the playoffs they will have their lottery pick, 2020 pick from the Sixers and the unprotected pick from the heat. They could also add on a future pick of theirs (2022 or later) and technically take back some salary if need be. If the clippers can sign Kawhi, a team with Kawhi, AD, SGA, Shamet, J-Rob, Zubac and whatever other pieces could look pretty dang good

Yes. I agree.

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[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by jstasyk1121

i think honestly since we know so much about the offers that were made that it actually puts a lot of pressure on Pelicans...cuz now everyone in the world will know if they f'd it up badly based on what they end up getting for AD

especially if they do end up trading to Lakers...it will almost guaranteed to be less of an offer...zubac already gone so technically it would be less no matter what unless they added more picks...

its going to be so easy to compare what they end up getting since it was so public...that doesnt bode well for them most likely

"oh you got to keep AD for an extra 30 games and still lose...and you didnt get as good of an offer...congrats"

at the same time...if they get tatum straight up for AD there are people on here that will claim they did better so there is that

All NO need to do is get a young player and a top 3 pick to do better if they didn't believe Ingram, Kuz or Lonzo are potential stars someday.

No point in NY trading for him a week ago as AD would have won them games, but a few months from now NY may have the no. 1 pick.

Originally Posted by Burt-Reynolds

Not saying that nothing leaked from the Lakers side, but the majority of everything that came out was from NewOrleans. They played this like some super bitter petty #@#@#@#@#@#@es. They were mad at AD, LeBron, Klutch, and the Lakers and wanted to try to do as much damage as possible to everyone involved.

They never had any intention of trading with them. It was disgraceful how they handled it. If the situation was reversed the Lakers org would be getting destroyed right now and every gm in the league would be demanding an investigation and punishement.

Hang on, Lakers and co have been caught tampering before and they're doing it again. They deserve all of this. Although NO did tell them what they wanted and LA said no.
NO doesn't have to help LA out and do them favours.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by starfox

I would have taken Tatum and a two first round picks. I wouldn't have let this drag out so publicly for more than a week. Discretion: I guess the Pelicans never heard of it. Now, you have to get Davis through the next 30 or so games without injury.

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You can't think like that though.

What if Steph and KD go down tomorrow?

What if Giannis does?

Although Davis is made of glass.

[WaiverWire]

John Wall has taught everyone that the proper time to have a catastrophic injury is after you sign the supermax. If Anthony Davis has a bad injury before he signs his next contract, he's going to be in the same situation that Boogie Cousins was in.

I don't blame New Orleans for the way they handled the Davis request trade. The timing was terrible by Davis and Klutch. They really botched it. He has too much time left on his contract.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by theleica

I saw somewhere earlier today that the Pelicans were told by the NBA they couldn’t sit him if he was healthy

The NBA isn’t okay with the pattern of superstars resting players routinely, especially for nationally televised games. What makes anyone think that Davis was ever going to sit the rest of the year?

The NBA depends on its best players playing. When healthy, they should be doing so. If NO pulls some garbage and sits AD when he’s healthy, I suspect tbey’ll be fined.

[asujbl]

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