Fernando Tatis Jr

padremurph · 07-08-2017, 08:30 AM

Seems like he's worthy of his own thread now. He's tripled in his last three games, is hitting .279/.369/.492. Has 13 HR and 16 SB as an 18 yr old SS in the MWL. The strikeouts are a concern but he seems to have gotten those in check recently as the walks seem to be up and the strikeouts down. Ranked #22 at BP, #101 at BA, #100 on MLB.com and figures to be in the #20-30 range when Law's list comes out next week.

I personally saw him in spring training this year and was super impressed as he was one of the best players on the High A field. Crazy power and it shows up in games. I had a mini stash before spring training but went crazy by my standards ever since. I've probably spent 4-5x more on Tatis then I ever have on anyone else. I'll try and get the collection uploaded next week.

What does the BO community think? Anyone else have stashes? Future hobby superstar or future bust?

Untitled by andrew murphy, on Flickr

preakness · 07-08-2017, 08:50 AM

James shields

Yaga · 07-08-2017, 08:57 AM

I bought a bunch of his stuff in the last week when he started heating up. Had quite a few things on my watch list that I was debating and then they all disappeared. So I just went and grabbed whatever I could lol.

Nothing crazy but hopefully this one turns out to be a good deal...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/322545158911

Hail2TheVictors · 07-08-2017, 09:09 AM

This will probably come across wrong, but this is a clear attempt to drive interest to someone you are done buying. Not a fan of these threads.

BacktoBusiness · 07-08-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

This will probably come across wrong, but this is a clear attempt to drive interest to someone you are done buying. Not a fan of these threads.

Thats 99.9% of threads in this forum, to drive prices up for players people have a stash of

cobravetteki · 07-08-2017, 09:57 AM

Love me some vlad Jr....But BA has vlad #2 and Tatis like 101

Give me a break

Soxrule111 · 07-08-2017, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cobravetteki

Love me some vlad Jr....But BA has vlad #2 and Tatis like 101

Give me a break

To me Tatis is one 60 game stretch away from being considered nothing. I don't buy his potential.

ThoseBackPages · 07-08-2017, 10:24 AM

i miss his dad

Yaga · 07-08-2017, 10:28 AM

Speaking of Tatis, I put out a question to BA on their top 100 list asking how the other place had him ahead of bichette and they had him at 100... They replied with this...

Tatis is excellent but has a big hole in his game, which is he does not handle average or better breaking balls well (that has come up from multiple scouts throughout the season, even when he's been going well). He is very young and the assumption is he will improve with time, but it's an assumption, not a guarantee. Tatis and Vlad Jr. do not have that same hole, which is why they have better slash lines across the board in all three categories playing in the same league at the same age. There is a potential future star in there for Tatis, and thus he's one of the top prospects in the game, but he needs to prove he can close that hole before reaching that level.

cobravetteki · 07-08-2017, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaga

Speaking of Tatis, I put out a question to BA on their top 100 list asking how the other place had him ahead of bichette and they had him at 100... They replied with this...

Tatis is excellent but has a big hole in his game, which is he does not handle average or better breaking balls well (that has come up from multiple scouts throughout the season, even when he's been going well). He is very young and the assumption is he will improve with time, but it's an assumption, not a guarantee. Tatis and Vlad Jr. do not have that same hole, which is why they have better slash lines across the board in all three categories playing in the same league at the same age. There is a potential future star in there for Tatis, and thus he's one of the top prospects in the game, but he needs to prove he can close that hole before reaching that level.

I think most of the veteran prospectors will agree Baseball America is a joke. If anybody's hyping up their own prospects its them. Bogus hot lists and prospect rankings and it has gotten progressively worse year after year...

mattglet · 07-08-2017, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cobravetteki

I think most of the veteran prospectors will agree Baseball America is a joke. If anybody's hyping up their own prospects its them. Bogus hot lists and prospect rankings and it has gotten progressively worse year after year...

I keep seeing people say that BA hypes up "their own prospects" - what does that even mean? How does BA have prospects?

(real questions, I'm obviously missing something)

cobravetteki · 07-08-2017, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattglet

I keep seeing people say that BA hypes up "their own prospects" - what does that even mean? How does BA have prospects?

(real questions, I'm obviously missing something)

Kind of a little inside joke I suppose...

padremurph · 07-08-2017, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaga

Speaking of Tatis, I put out a question to BA on their top 100 list asking how the other place had him ahead of bichette and they had him at 100... They replied with this...

Tatis is excellent but has a big hole in his game, which is he does not handle average or better breaking balls well (that has come up from multiple scouts throughout the season, even when he's been going well). He is very young and the assumption is he will improve with time, but it's an assumption, not a guarantee. Tatis and Vlad Jr. do not have that same hole, which is why they have better slash lines across the board in all three categories playing in the same league at the same age. There is a potential future star in there for Tatis, and thus he's one of the top prospects in the game, but he needs to prove he can close that hole before reaching that level.

Yea, interesting. In the BP chat they said some of their sources think he's a top 10 prospect right now. He definitely struck out a ton to start the year but seems to have gotten it under control lately. Walks are up.

Yaga · 07-08-2017, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by padremurph

Yea, interesting. In the BP chat they said some of their sources think he's a top 10 prospect right now. He definitely struck out a ton to start the year but seems to have gotten it under control lately. Walks are up.

Where do you see the BP chat? I'd love to read it! I'm not familiar with their site at all... I was just poking around, but I don't find their site too friendly to find anything

padremurph · 07-08-2017, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaga

Where do you see the BP chat? I'd love to read it! I'm not familiar with their site at all... I was just poking around, but I don't find their site too friendly to find anything

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...hp?chatId=1427

Yaga · 07-08-2017, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padremurph

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ch...hp?chatId=1427

That was a good read, thanks!

Homerun · 07-08-2017, 10:41 AM

I don't know how good Tatis will be but I can't believe the Sox traded him for James friggin Shields.

patsfan1106 · 07-08-2017, 02:23 PM

Glad I picked this up!

padremurph · 07-08-2017, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan1106

Glad I picked this up!

Nice!

cobravetteki · 07-08-2017, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan1106

Glad I picked this up!

Just rub that in my face lol.. That's a nasty card glad you like it

661fish · 02-10-2020, 09:11 PM

This is how the Mike Trout rookies became over valued.

1stBowman · 02-24-2019, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patsfan1106

Glad I picked this up!

I bet!Hopefully you still have the card.

JWBlue · 07-08-2017, 02:36 PM

OP is a Padres fan and excited about a top prospect.

CubKings · 07-08-2017, 03:13 PM

Just wait until he hits 3 grand slams in one inning.

Yaga · 07-12-2017, 08:22 PM

This kid's prices are really jumping... There's a purple auto ending soon at 102.50 wowwwwww. Barely anything even available to find for him now

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07-08-2017, 08:30 AM	#1
padremurph Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,893 lakermurph	Fernando Tatis Jr Seems like he's worthy of his own thread now. He's tripled in his last three games, is hitting .279/.369/.492. Has 13 HR and 16 SB as an 18 yr old SS in the MWL. The strikeouts are a concern but he seems to have gotten those in check recently as the walks seem to be up and the strikeouts down. Ranked #22 at BP, #101 at BA, #100 on MLB.com and figures to be in the #20-30 range when Law's list comes out next week. I personally saw him in spring training this year and was super impressed as he was one of the best players on the High A field. Crazy power and it shows up in games. I had a mini stash before spring training but went crazy by my standards ever since. I've probably spent 4-5x more on Tatis then I ever have on anyone else. I'll try and get the collection uploaded next week. What does the BO community think? Anyone else have stashes? Future hobby superstar or future bust? Untitled by andrew murphy, on Flickr Last edited by padremurph; 07-15-2017 at 02:05 PM.

07-08-2017, 08:50 AM	#2
preakness Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: In Johnny Ryno's soul Posts: 21,077	James shields

07-08-2017, 08:57 AM	#3
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	I bought a bunch of his stuff in the last week when he started heating up. Had quite a few things on my watch list that I was debating and then they all disappeared. So I just went and grabbed whatever I could lol. Nothing crazy but hopefully this one turns out to be a good deal... http://www.ebay.com/itm/322545158911

07-08-2017, 09:09 AM	#4
Hail2TheVictors Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,476	This will probably come across wrong, but this is a clear attempt to drive interest to someone you are done buying. Not a fan of these threads.

07-08-2017, 09:57 AM	#6
cobravetteki Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: SC Posts: 3,691 Cobravetteki	Love me some vlad Jr....But BA has vlad #2 and Tatis like 101 Give me a break

07-08-2017, 10:28 AM	#9
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	Speaking of Tatis, I put out a question to BA on their top 100 list asking how the other place had him ahead of bichette and they had him at 100... They replied with this... Tatis is excellent but has a big hole in his game, which is he does not handle average or better breaking balls well (that has come up from multiple scouts throughout the season, even when he's been going well). He is very young and the assumption is he will improve with time, but it's an assumption, not a guarantee. Tatis and Vlad Jr. do not have that same hole, which is why they have better slash lines across the board in all three categories playing in the same league at the same age. There is a potential future star in there for Tatis, and thus he's one of the top prospects in the game, but he needs to prove he can close that hole before reaching that level.

02-10-2020, 09:11 PM	#21
661fish Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Ventura CA Posts: 27 661fish	This is how the Mike Trout rookies became over valued.

07-08-2017, 02:36 PM	#23
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,336	OP is a Padres fan and excited about a top prospect.

07-12-2017, 08:22 PM	#25
Yaga Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 7,525	This kid's prices are really jumping... There's a purple auto ending soon at 102.50 wowwwwww. Barely anything even available to find for him now