✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 55

redauto5 · 04-30-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani Jack! Change up golfed out!!

I for one look forward to Ohtanis box score more than many many things in my life. So cool to see a guy that works do hard and believes in himself so much walk through adversity to do something most people think impossible.

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al3xmac10 · 04-30-2021, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani Jack! Change up golfed out!!

and to think that jusr earlier this week, some media outlets highlighted that the changeup is the pitch he has had the most trouble with so far...

NYRE2PECT · 05-01-2021, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani Jack! Change up golfed out!!

It would have been nearly impossible to get that ball any further down the bat - that is so incredibly impressive that it left the yard.

Would like to see him get on base a little more and be a disrupter with his speed. His OBP is only .320.

Angels win one, lose one, win one, lose one. Aye.

NYRE2PECT · 05-01-2021, 08:10 PM

A little pre-at-bat mojo for Shohei

!

al3xmac10 · 05-01-2021, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

A little pre-at-bat mojo for Shohei

!

weirdly, I want to see a BB here...

Trueblue · 05-01-2021, 08:17 PM

SB #4! 5-tooler!!

al3xmac10 · 05-01-2021, 08:19 PM

BB - SB - HR.

I think we found something here....

NYRE2PECT · 05-01-2021, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

SB #4! 5-tooler!!

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cloakroom · 05-02-2021, 03:17 PM

probably not pitching tomorrow after that one.

Trueblue · 05-02-2021, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cloakroom

probably not pitching tomorrow after that one.

yep, that elbow/tricep is going to be stiff. Immediately stole 2nd after that though.

Trueblue · 05-02-2021, 03:20 PM

Stolen base #6, lol

cloakroom · 05-02-2021, 04:26 PM

experiencing a bit of Ohtani RC overload. what's the consensus on the pitching vs hitting bowman? neither are 1st prospect even though pitching is technically the first. let's say he continues to pitch well throughout the season, does the batting get a bump due to the uniqueness or does the pitching? most identify with him as a hitter, i think at least.

Trueblue · 05-02-2021, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cloakroom

experiencing a bit of Ohtani RC overload. what's the consensus on the pitching vs hitting bowman? neither are 1st prospect even though pitching is technically the first. let's say he continues to pitch well throughout the season, does the batting get a bump due to the uniqueness or does the pitching? most identify with him as a hitter, i think at least.

Ohtani could never pitch again and the pitching bowman is still the one to have. Discussed at lengths in previous pages.

cloakroom · 05-02-2021, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani could never pitch again and the pitching bowman is still the one to have. Discussed at lengths in previous pages.

thanks. i'll sift through and try to find the discussion.

Clause37 · 05-02-2021, 09:03 PM

The fact that he's not having the hobby love he deserves shows how much some think injuries are forever. There is no reason with his current output that he shouldn't be at the level of hobby love of Acuna/Tatis/Vlad. It just tells me to hold his cards because they will be hot later this year. I still regret how low I let a 2020 heritage white refractor go for in Spring training.

NYRE2PECT · 05-02-2021, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clause37

The fact that he's not having the hobby love he deserves shows how much some think injuries are forever. There is no reason with his current output that he shouldn't be at the level of hobby love of Acuna/Tatis/Vlad. It just tells me to hold his cards because they will be hot later this year. I still regret how low I let a 2020 heritage white refractor go for in Spring training.

Prices today are already insane. I bought most of mine from Dec-Feb, many of which have increased 600%. I bought my 2018 TC 150 PSA 10 for $35 on 12/20. Those are now $200.

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HarryLime · 05-03-2021, 12:56 PM

Yeah, I remember thinking I was slick in the offseason (granted, it was late offseason) thinking I would go grab some good Ohtani while the prices were stupid. Well, the prices had already gotten pretty smart.

I think we failed to calculate how wide the Ohtani fanbase is. Interest dipped from late-'18 through 2019 but there was an enormous amount of people that were just waiting for signs of life. The moment those signs presented themselves, Ohvengers assembled.

I'm just glad I never sold any of the Ohtani I pulled or picked up in 2018. It's the only thing saving me right now. Nothing huge, but HHN Color Swap, TC Gold Ref, US1 Gold, Metallic Golds, Topps Minis, bunch of base in PSA 10. More of a CYA collection.

Arthur

Trueblue · 05-03-2021, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Prices today are already insane. I bought most of mine from Dec-Feb, many of which have increased 600%. I bought my 2018 TC 150 PSA 10 for $35 on 12/20. Those are now $200.

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I mean, prices today may seem insane compared to the lows of late '18 and '19, but..

1) if some of those rockets start landing for hits and those flyballs go 6 inches further to clear the wall, you're looking at .300/40/30.

2) if he starts commanding his FB better and builds up that callus, you're looking at 100-120 IP of SP1 production

If either of 1) or 2) occur with even a midpoint outcome for the other, his prices will probably go up 30-40% incremental. If 1) and 2) both occur, you're looking at a ridiculous multiple that will make today's prices look like steals.

Trueblue · 05-03-2021, 02:50 PM

Ohtani scratched as starter today.. Understandable.

Cards and 401K · 05-03-2021, 02:51 PM

Bought about 80% of my Ohtani cards April thru Sept 2019.

rebbrooks · 05-03-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani scratched as starter today.. Understandable.

Is he going to bat?

Trueblue · 05-03-2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rebbrooks

Is he going to bat?

no news yet, but he'd still make a mean pinch runner

Joking, but not really.

Trueblue · 05-03-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rebbrooks

Is he going to bat?

Ohtani in 2 spot. Guess it's not serious.

rebbrooks · 05-03-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trueblue

Ohtani in 2 spot. Guess it's not serious.

Cool. Thanks!

Rage · 05-03-2021, 05:39 PM

More precautionary as it's still early in the season and they have mostly experienced starters to lean on. No need to rush him back, gonna take their time like they did with Trout.

Glad to see him in the lineup though, yesterday was the first time the Angels got shut out this season, let's make it the last.

I'm feeling some big knocks for Shohei today!!

05-01-2021, 08:19 PM	#1357
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05-02-2021, 09:03 PM	#1365
Clause37 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 170 Clause37	The fact that he's not having the hobby love he deserves shows how much some think injuries are forever. There is no reason with his current output that he shouldn't be at the level of hobby love of Acuna/Tatis/Vlad. It just tells me to hold his cards because they will be hot later this year. I still regret how low I let a 2020 heritage white refractor go for in Spring training. Last edited by Clause37; 05-02-2021 at 09:05 PM.

05-03-2021, 05:39 PM	#1375
Rage Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: CA Posts: 3,336 santacruzbaseballcards1	More precautionary as it's still early in the season and they have mostly experienced starters to lean on. No need to rush him back, gonna take their time like they did with Trout. Glad to see him in the lineup though, yesterday was the first time the Angels got shut out this season, let's make it the last. I'm feeling some big knocks for Shohei today!! __________________ Check out my eBay store

05-01-2021, 08:10 PM	#1354
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 7,680	A little pre-at-bat mojo for Shohei !

05-01-2021, 08:17 PM	#1356
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,304	SB #4! 5-tooler!!

05-02-2021, 03:17 PM	#1359
cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	probably not pitching tomorrow after that one.

05-02-2021, 03:20 PM	#1361
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,304	Stolen base #6, lol

05-02-2021, 04:26 PM	#1362
cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	experiencing a bit of Ohtani RC overload. what's the consensus on the pitching vs hitting bowman? neither are 1st prospect even though pitching is technically the first. let's say he continues to pitch well throughout the season, does the batting get a bump due to the uniqueness or does the pitching? most identify with him as a hitter, i think at least.

05-03-2021, 12:56 PM	#1367
HarryLime Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spaceball 1 Posts: 4,794	Yeah, I remember thinking I was slick in the offseason (granted, it was late offseason) thinking I would go grab some good Ohtani while the prices were stupid. Well, the prices had already gotten pretty smart. I think we failed to calculate how wide the Ohtani fanbase is. Interest dipped from late-'18 through 2019 but there was an enormous amount of people that were just waiting for signs of life. The moment those signs presented themselves, Ohvengers assembled. I'm just glad I never sold any of the Ohtani I pulled or picked up in 2018. It's the only thing saving me right now. Nothing huge, but HHN Color Swap, TC Gold Ref, US1 Gold, Metallic Golds, Topps Minis, bunch of base in PSA 10. More of a CYA collection. Arthur

05-03-2021, 02:50 PM	#1369
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,304	Ohtani scratched as starter today.. Understandable.

05-03-2021, 02:51 PM	#1370
Cards and 401K Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 3,557	Bought about 80% of my Ohtani cards April thru Sept 2019.