**Official Luka Doncic Thread** - Page 539

jmcca170 · 11-06-2020, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny1984

No it’s not numbered and you can’t see your reflection in it but it’s blue! POP 5. It’s a keeper.

Nice! Mines being graded right now

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The_Reverend · 11-06-2020, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny1984

No it’s not numbered and you can’t see your reflection in it but it’s blue! POP 5. It’s a keeper.

Sweet card and it is definitely blue. I have a JJJ and yes great pickup.

jackscards888 · 11-07-2020, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Fat pack boxes have 48 total RCs (base and parallel). I didn’t open any that had 0 Luka, but it’s possible. I did open some that had a base and parallel. Definitely worth it at $300.

Hm sounds like a fun Rip. I should look into getting a box. Beats opening 2020 Encased and getting BGS 8

dkcardman · 11-08-2020, 05:12 PM

Optic contenders silver Auto is over 7k on ebay with some time left. Ungraded!! That is a huge bump since the last 9.5 that went. Is this for real???

BRob1 · 11-08-2020, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dkcardman

Optic contenders silver Auto is over 7k on ebay with some time left. Ungraded!! That is a huge bump since the last 9.5 that went. Is this for real???

bidding looks suspect ... two private bidders took it from 3k to 7k in a 60 second span. Also was a 24 hour auction which is pretty uncommon.

Also would add its raw, with what are likely scratches all over the case (hopefully not the card), but hard to know for sure. It is very well centered though, so has that going for it.

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dkcardman · 11-08-2020, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BRob1

bidding looks suspect ... two private bidders took it from 3k to 7k in a 60 second span. Also was a 24 hour auction which is pretty uncommon.

Also would add its raw, with what are likely scratches all over the case (hopefully not the card), but hard to know for sure. It is very well centered though, so has that going for it.

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Your probably right. Guy has a dubious seller feedback too.

NoBaseOnlyAutos · 11-08-2020, 08:24 PM

Contenders Optic is one of the nicest auto sets for Luka. Such a perfect card. Plus authentic auto. No LuLU.

JoeAdam · 11-08-2020, 08:47 PM

Delete. No idea what happened

TSonn · 11-08-2020, 09:11 PM

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

BreaultCards · 11-08-2020, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

Generally you can’t retract that late.

yoyosh · 11-08-2020, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

I noticed that too.
W
T
F?!?

BRob1 · 11-08-2020, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Delete. No idea what happened

weird, i saw it at 4500 as well.

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tke1600 · 11-08-2020, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

It’s a scam that eBay for some reason allows to happen. Don’t have a clue why.

jwilson6204 · 11-08-2020, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

I noticed as well. Guess it's another scam we have to look out for.

Onepocketj · 11-08-2020, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

Not new at all. Bid shielding has been going on forever.
Card is worth 4k.
Bid is at 2k.
Shiller 1 bids 2050 with a max of 8k.
Shiller 2 bids 9k which takes the price to $8050.
No one else bids because it isn't worth that much.
Last minute shiller 2 retracts bid and seller 1 wins for $2050

jmcca170 · 11-08-2020, 09:37 PM

I’m too scared to do auctions when I sell stuff... BIN with best offer priced a bit higher so I can try to screen people that offer.

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BRob1 · 11-08-2020, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BreaultCards

Generally you can’t retract that late.

my understanding is you can retract a bid within an hour of placing it, even if it’s within 12 hours of auction ending.

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bberns · 11-08-2020, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Not new at all. Bid shielding has been going on forever.
Card is worth 4k.
Bid is at 2k.
Shiller 1 bids 2050 with a max of 8k.
Shiller 2 bids 9k which takes the price to $8050.
No one else bids because it isn't worth that much.
Last minute shiller 2 retracts bid and seller 1 wins for $2050

Yes, this happens a lot. Myself and others have reported this to eBay and Probstein for past auctions.

Onepocketj · 11-08-2020, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BRob1

my understanding is you can retract a bid within an hour of placing it, even if it’s within 12 hours of auction ending.

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Yep. I bid a couple months ago with 5 minutes left on an item. Then I saw PSA and the seller mislabeled it and just retracted my bid. Think it's the only one I've ever done. I posted a guy the other day with 1800 bid retraction in 6 months.

BRob1 · 11-08-2020, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Yep. I bid a couple months ago with 5 minutes left on an item. Then I saw PSA and the seller mislabeled it and just retracted my bid. Think it's the only one I've ever done. I posted a guy the other day with 1800 bid retraction in 6 months.

I think I saw you post that.

The two private bidders that bid up the contenders optic today each have about 50 bid retractions. That price was double what comps have sold for in the last month, but not sure what exactly the scam would be if there was one, other than trying to manipulate the market by putting that price out there as a comp. The winner was actually a 3rd bidder.

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Bjackson24 · 11-08-2020, 10:04 PM

A blue Phoenix Psa 10 just listed on ebay. A red and a purple too. PWCC auctions so it’ll be interesting to see what these sell for.

JoeAdam · 11-08-2020, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

Hah, literally why I deleted my post above yours. Thought maybe my app glitched .

The_Reverend · 11-08-2020, 11:09 PM

eBay could correct this is they had a locked bid option. Once a bid is put in and asked if they are sure of the bid, a Lock happens and can only be retracted by contacting eBay and the. They will keep track of the retractions and when a certain number are reached they lock the account.

Jopeal · 11-08-2020, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

I’ve seen others post about this scam and have personally seen it happen on 3 cards I was watching. None were Luka cards though.

One account bids a card from their intended win price to a max bid of like 10x, then a “friend” bids even higher thus making the listing of no interest to other buyers. Then at the last minute, the “friend” account retracts their bid and the original bidder wins for just above the high bid from the previous legit bidder. It’s basically the opposite of a shill.

GoNYGoNYGo · 11-09-2020, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jopeal

I’ve seen others post about this scam and have personally seen it happen on 3 cards I was watching. None were Luka cards though.

One account bids a card from their intended win price to a max bid of like 10x, then a “friend” bids even higher thus making the listing of no interest to other buyers. Then at the last minute, the “friend” account retracts their bid and the original bidder wins for just above the high bid from the previous legit bidder. It’s basically the opposite of a shill.

This is the first time I’ve seen this - sucks because I was watching that origins auto and when I checked and saw it so high I was like well I’m not paying that then didn’t follow it at the end - guess shame on me and will be my lesson in finally setting up a sniping program and hopefully that will keep me to budget on specific cards haha.

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11-08-2020, 08:47 PM	#13458
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11-08-2020, 05:12 PM	#13454
dkcardman Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Buford, Ga Posts: 2,530 dkcardman dkcardman	Optic contenders silver Auto is over 7k on ebay with some time left. Ungraded!! That is a huge bump since the last 9.5 that went. Is this for real???

11-08-2020, 08:24 PM	#13457
NoBaseOnlyAutos Banned - PBM Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 30	Contenders Optic is one of the nicest auto sets for Luka. Such a perfect card. Plus authentic auto. No LuLU.

11-08-2020, 09:11 PM	#13459
TSonn Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,995 TSonnMI	Luka Origins auto just sold for $1,900 but the weird thing is it was at $4,500+ with a couple minutes left. That a new scam? Set up 2 accounts, overbid with one, retract win a couple seconds left to let your real account get the card without any competition?

11-08-2020, 09:37 PM	#13466
jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	I’m too scared to do auctions when I sell stuff... BIN with best offer priced a bit higher so I can try to screen people that offer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-08-2020, 10:04 PM	#13471
Bjackson24 Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 190	A blue Phoenix Psa 10 just listed on ebay. A red and a purple too. PWCC auctions so it’ll be interesting to see what these sell for.

11-08-2020, 11:09 PM	#13473
The_Reverend Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 15,383 islubi	eBay could correct this is they had a locked bid option. Once a bid is put in and asked if they are sure of the bid, a Lock happens and can only be retracted by contacting eBay and the. They will keep track of the retractions and when a certain number are reached they lock the account.