Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!!

[jackscards888]

Originally Posted by kefskala

thats 11k less then the one from yesterday....like i said eye appeal will come into play with psa 9's...the one that sold yesterday was dead center....this one is off centered

Just a few weeks ago, dead center 9 was 30-35k.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by kefskala

thats 11k less then the one from yesterday....like i said eye appeal will come into play with psa 9's...the one that sold yesterday was dead center....this one is off centered

in addition, the psa 8 that just sold that was "way off" L/R

eye appeal on that one.......


.....of course, IF IT SAYS psa across the top, some folks will do "odd things".

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by kefskala

thats 11k less then the one from yesterday....like i said eye appeal will come into play with psa 9's...the one that sold yesterday was dead center....this one is off centered

This is true...


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[Hellcat]

Good point like all grades there will be variances within the same grade. My PSA 9 is 52/48 at worse. It will clearly bring a premium within the 9s.

[kefskala]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

Good point like all grades there will be variances within the same grade. My PSA 9 is 52/48 at worse. It will clearly bring a premium within the 9s.

thats funny was looking at mine and that is the percentage i wrote down yesterday....top to bottom. l/r centered...

[Hellcat]

I posted it earlier in the thread here it is again.
https://ibb.co/F6GBPLt
https://ibb.co/TtSr8dJ

[kefskala]

Originally Posted by Hellcat

I posted it earlier in the thread here it is again.
https://ibb.co/F6GBPLt
https://ibb.co/TtSr8dJ

Yep u are dead center top to bottom. Two degrees over to the right sounds about right...I personally feel this is where psa needs to use .5 to make a difference...

[CoachDave33]

I have been tracking the 87 and 88 Fleer PSA 9’s as I bought one of each last April.

87 9’s were $2,000 a pop to start the year. One just sold for $4,000.
88 9’s were $325 a pop to start the year. One just sold for $910.

These have really escalated quickly, and I don’t see any reason why the growth won’t continue as everyone’s ultimately priced out of the 86 in any fashion.

[Foo3112]

I myself had to pick up an 88 Fleer in a 10 seeing how the 87’s have really taken off. Bought two at $3000 each in December and now the cheapest on eBay is at $5900 (BIN). Pretty much doubled in a month. Crazy prices and demand continues to rise. No complaints here.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by CoachDave33

I have been tracking the 87 and 88 Fleer PSA 9’s as I bought one of each last April.

87 9’s were $2,000 a pop to start the year. One just sold for $4,000.
88 9’s were $325 a pop to start the year. One just sold for $910.

These have really escalated quickly, and I don’t see any reason why the growth won’t continue as everyone’s ultimately priced out of the 86 in any fashion.

"I'm buyin what you're sellin" LOL. the '87 in particular.

only, I would change "everyone's" from the above to "most everyone's"

more people are willing to spend thousands !!! just to get the

ICONIC MJ ROOKIE

#57

[kefskala]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

I myself had to pick up an 88 Fleer in a 10 seeing how the 87’s have really taken off. Bought two at $3000 each in December and now the cheapest on eBay is at $5900 (BIN). Pretty much doubled in a month. Crazy prices and demand continues to rise. No complaints here.

Spilling over to 1989 now

[mkebucks2001]

Originally Posted by kefskala

Spilling over to 1989 now

Watch out for that 88 All Star Card. Bought a PSA 9 a few weeks back for $350 - prices climbing toward 1k now. Wild!

[Homersbud84]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

I myself had to pick up an 88 Fleer in a 10 seeing how the 87’s have really taken off. Bought two at $3000 each in December and now the cheapest on eBay is at $5900 (BIN). Pretty much doubled in a month. Crazy prices and demand continues to rise. No complaints here.

I've owned the PSA10 '88 Fleer for yrs now & was pleasantly surprised to see the prices! I had a hard time shelling out $500 for this in 2017 but I guess it paid off lol

I never could afford the PSA10 '87 Fleer, but the $600 I spent on the PSA9 '87 Fleer is looking damn nice, too!

Unbelievable this explosion!

[vintg]

#57

chalk this up to "eventually I guess this had to happen..."

psa 7, very nice centering, bursts through the 10k barrier with

3 days to go....

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by vintg

#57

chalk this up to "eventually I guess this had to happen..."

psa 7, very nice centering, bursts through the 10k barrier with

3 days to go....

Is this even real anymore? Will it stop or is this just the beginning?

[Brent72]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Is this even real anymore? Will it stop or is this just the beginning?

That's what I was saying about Bitcoin a couple weeks ago. Let's hope the high end card market doesn't go down that road.

[mjcollector]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Is this even real anymore? Will it stop or is this just the beginning?

Seems like a dream. This is coming from someone who owns a 8.5

[tedwilliamsfan]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Is this even real anymore? Will it stop or is this just the beginning?

I have come to the conclusion that I no longer understand sports cards. I have also concluded that Michael Jordan is his own "buyer's group." MJ is driving up his card prices by bidding them up to crazy prices. This is just the beginning.

[Hilton]

Jordan fleer PSA 9 rookie sold for $61,300 yesterday eBay auction!
Pcptrade should have bought a PSA 9 instead of his BGS 9.5 min as it would have been more profitable. He may not know what profitable means though lol.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by Brent72

That's what I was saying about Bitcoin a couple weeks ago. Let's hope the high end card market doesn't go down that road.

Yep. Bitcoin did something very similar in 2018. Got tons of hype... people bought in and just crashed. That's Bitcoin for ya. This is gonna hit $34.8M!!! oh wait... no... it crashed lol

Originally Posted by mjcollector

Seems like a dream. This is coming from someone who owns a 8.5

I bought an BGS 8.5 years ago for $2800... it crashed shortly after but I held it anyway I recently bought a nice PSA 8 just before the recent explosion for $11,600. Overall I'm sitting pretty... so even it this stalls I'm ok. This is fun to watch.

Originally Posted by tedwilliamsfan

I have come to the conclusion that I no longer understand sports cards. I have also concluded that Michael Jordan is his own "buyer's group." MJ is driving up his card prices by bidding them up to crazy prices. This is just the beginning.

That's the thing... It's MJ... GOAT... Only RC... condition sensitive...nicely graded copies should be solid for a while.

[Hilton]

Originally Posted by pcptrade

You don't have to be a genius to make money in sports cards. All you need is common sense and lack of delusional thinking! I acquired my Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 for 37.5K and made a 20K (50%) paper profit in two weeks. Better yet, I acquired it in a 100% trade deal. I traded a Trout and Soto RC for my Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 and my cost basis on Trout and Soto cards was 6K. I am glad that I was able to turn 6K into 60K in two years. Imagine if I had delusional thinking (BGS 9.5 is worth no more than PSA 9) like you

When you bought your BGS 9.5 min for $37.5k, PSA 9’s were selling for around $20k. Yesterday PSA 9 fleer Jordan rookie sold for $61,300 eBay auction. You don’t have to be a genius to know you would have made more money buying a PSA 9 instead.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by Hilton

When you bought your BGS 9.5 min for $37.5k, PSA 9’s were selling for around $20k. Yesterday PSA 9 fleer Jordan rookie sold for $61,300 eBay auction. You don’t have to be a genius to know you would have made more money buying a PSA 9 instead.

wouldn't it be fair and reasonable to have a bgs 9.5 min sell AT THE
SAME TIME, you know, to have a VALID comparison, like "apples-to-apples" ?

you know, b/c the mj rookie market is changing so rapidly on an almost daily
basis ??

as the OP of this thread, all opinions are certainly welcome, but purposely taking the thread off the rails like before is not appreciated.

if you got a beef with someone , take it to private messages.

TIA.

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by vintg

wouldn't it be fair and reasonable to have a bgs 9.5 min sell AT THE
SAME TIME, you know, to have a VALID comparison, like "apples-to-apples" ?

you know, b/c the mj rookie market is changing so rapidly on an almost daily
basis ??

as the OP of this thread, all opinions are certainly welcome, but purposely taking the thread off the rails like before is not appreciated.

if you got a beef with someone , take it to private messages.

TIA.

Let him make a fool of himself more. He has been comparing PSA 9 and BGS 9.5 min gem sales from different dates when the prices have been going up almost every week. There have been only three min gem mint sales so far in 2021, of which he said one (70K) is fake. There were two PSA 9 sales yesterday for 45K and 43K after the 61K sale he is referring to from two days ago. For some reason, he is 100% sure that the 61K sale is not fake. He is trying to argue that BGS 9.5 min gem is worth no more than a PSA 9 and in the process of doing so he is making a clown of himself. He also does not understand that high end does not appreciate the same percentage as low end within a given time period. I traded 6K worth of baseball cards to acquire my BGS 9.5 and I do not care about ROI over one month or long term on a card like this. All I care about at this point is I wanted a well centered (both front and back) gem mint (not a lower grade) for my PC and I landed one in a 100% trade deal before the prices shot up more. When I purchased my Lebron 2003 TC Gold Refractor two years ago, I knew that if I had invested the same money in his TC base PSA 10, I will make better ROI but I still went after TC Gold Refractor. When I purchased a Jordan PMG a year ago, I knew that Jordan 1986 Fleer PSA 7 to 9 would give me better ROI but I still went after the PMG. There are certain cards where I do not care about ROI and my Jordan Fleer BGS 9.5 acquisition is also one such example. I wanted a gem mint for my PC, not a lower grade and I was able to acquire it by trading a Trout and Soto card in a 100% trade deal and my cost basis on those two baseball cards was 6K couple of years ago.

Anyways, Goldin has few PSA 9's and one BGS 9.5 min gem up for auction, all ending in one week. PSA 9's are currently at 28K (~33K with BP), 30K (~36K with BP) and 33K (~39K with BP). BGS 9.5 min gem is currently at 51K (~62K with buyers premium). I am glad that my 6K investment from two years ago is worth at least 62K and that is what matters to me. We will find out where the min gem mint and PSA 9's end in a week. Meanwhile, he can continue arguing that BGS 9.5 min gem is worth no more than a PSA 9 and make of clown of himself! As I said earlier, I own PSA 9, BGS 9, BGS 9.5, PSA 10's and BGS 10's in my PC. For now, Pricewise BGS 10>PSA 10>BGS 9.5>PSA 9> BGS 9. Anyone who argues otherwise is making a fool of themselves. Can things change in the future? Possibly, but I will let the market price dictate it.

[kefskala]

love watching two grown man cry about anecdotal numbers. between a psa 9 or a bgs 9.5 i would prefer a bgs 9.5. I said it before I would wish psa would use a 9.5 example because there is and are huge variances in centering on psa 9's...I have purchased two psa 9's in the past four months and I had to go through at least 30 of them to find the two that I want to buy. These two would definitely cross over to bgs 9.5's but would i risk it? no..to much to lose or gamble rite now.. so instead of splitting hairs about what is more valuable we should all be great full for this phenomenon that is occurring in the hobby...Personally like i said before this is only the beginning of the eruption...there isn't enough inventory to suffice the masses.....my saturday morning tidbit....

[pcptrade]

Originally Posted by kefskala

love watching two grown man cry about anecdotal numbers. between a psa 9 or a bgs 9.5 i would prefer a bgs 9.5. I said it before I would wish psa would use a 9.5 example because there is and are huge variances in centering on psa 9's...I have purchased two psa 9's in the past four months and I had to go through at least 30 of them to find the two that I want to buy. These two would definitely cross over to bgs 9.5's but would i risk it? no..to much to lose or gamble rite now.. so instead of splitting hairs about what is more valuable we should all be great full for this phenomenon that is occurring in the hobby...Personally like i said before this is only the beginning of the eruption...there isn't enough inventory to suffice the masses.....my saturday morning tidbit....

Yes, buy the card and not the grade. There are some PSA 10's that would be BGS 9's and there are many PSA 9's that would be BGS 8.5 based on centering alone. There are some PSA 9's that can be BGS 9.5's but those would be less than 25% imo and they sell for a premium. There are some BGS 9.5's that can be PSA 9 or PSA 10's. Hence the reason PSA 10 sells for more than a BGS 9.5 and BGS 9.5 sells for more than a PSA 9. If PSA had 9.5 grade, Beckett would be out of business imo