WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 522

duwal · 03-10-2015, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi1823

So with 3 weeks till Mania, tonight we saw Cena make Rusev tap out, and Orton destroy Seth getting his revenge. Why the hell would I want to see those matches at Mania then?

that's why I absolutely love that Lesnar is one that doesn't just wrestle for the hell of it week after week. Every match he delivers and it isn't tiring because the opponent is always new and fresh in the rivalry. Where we aren't forced to see Kane vs. Bryan for four out of five weeks and then they decide to fight during a PPV where we've seen all they have to offer countless times

Wolves4Life · 03-10-2015, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by celtics

I don't hate or like Reigns but I love how last year after Wrestlemania everyone was saying something along the lines of "If your going to have Undertaker lose why not have someone like Roman Reigns beat him?"

This year it's the complete opposite. The big problem with Reigns is that he WWE gave him Daniel Bryan's spot. WWE really dropped the ball on him....but WWE has dropped the ball on literally everything since the Attitude Era.

Either way great ending to Raw tonight. It's nice to look forward to see what happens next week rather than ask myself why I'm still watching.

Most wrestling fans are bipolar they don't know what they want.

Wolves4Life · 03-10-2015, 12:53 AM

Oh btw WWE needs to stop wasting Emma.

duwal · 03-10-2015, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Oh btw WWE needs to stop wasting Emma.

no they need to cut her and make room for some of the better divas in NXT

Wolves4Life · 03-10-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by duwal

no they need to cut her and make room for some of the better divas in NXT

If you don't think she is one of them than you are clueless.

duwal · 03-10-2015, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

If you don't think she is one of them than you are clueless.

I guess everyone else is as well including those that evaluate her talent. There is a reason they paired her up first with Santino. She is merely a gimmick wrestler, someone to laugh at. She's very uncoordinated, sloppy with her bumps, and would be a head scratcher if anyone (ahem) would think she'd be in the top tier of divas as far as wrestling or mic ability

Wolves4Life · 03-10-2015, 01:11 AM

Look up her NXT and Indy stuff.

Ty Hope · 03-10-2015, 01:23 AM

I've been spoiled by joshi wrestling here in Japan. It's so good consistantly that I can't take any WWE diva match seriously. It's a joke.

Wolves4Life · 03-10-2015, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Hope

I've been spoiled by joshi wrestling here in Japan. It's so good consistantly that I can't take any WWE diva match seriously. It's a joke.

Totally different style.

Ty Hope · 03-10-2015, 01:49 AM

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Totally different style.

Yeah, here its actual pro wrestling. Not some crappy 2 minute filler.

Jedi1823 · 03-10-2015, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by duwal

that's why I absolutely love that Lesnar is one that doesn't just wrestle for the hell of it week after week. Every match he delivers and it isn't tiring because the opponent is always new and fresh in the rivalry. Where we aren't forced to see Kane vs. Bryan for four out of five weeks and then they decide to fight during a PPV where we've seen all they have to offer countless times

Also Lesnar not wrestling means it's Heyman selling the feud, and that is amazing.

I'd love it if everything we've seen involving Lesnar, is all a work and he's winning at Mania. He then proceeds to wrestle 5 matches over the course of the next year where he wins them all, and finally is vanquished at Mania 32. That would be perfect, build it as the company knows nobody is even close to Brock, so they're trying everything to take him down.

Ty Hope · 03-10-2015, 04:59 AM

I would LOVE that scenerio

gorillaz · 03-10-2015, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by duwal

I guess everyone else is as well including those that evaluate her talent. There is a reason they paired her up first with Santino. She is merely a gimmick wrestler, someone to laugh at. She's very uncoordinated, sloppy with her bumps, and would be a head scratcher if anyone (ahem) would think she'd be in the top tier of divas as far as wrestling or mic ability

Go back and watch her matches with paige in nxt, especially the womens title crowning match. Yes she has a retarded gimmick, but since vince is vince and creative is creative, thats why it happened. You'll be complaining as soon as the other divas get called up who will get 2 minutes of ring time. Its safer to keep them down in nxt where they're actually allowed to have time for a match.

gorillaz · 03-10-2015, 12:59 PM

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Yeah, here its actual pro wrestling. Not some crappy 2 minute filler.

Its just vinny being vinny, sadly. I don't think you'd say that about the divas in 2000s or the divas on the nxt roster.

Ty Hope · 03-10-2015, 06:30 PM

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Its just vinny being vinny, sadly. I don't think you'd say that about the divas in 2000s or the divas on the nxt roster.

They were better then, thats for sure.

gorillaz · 03-10-2015, 08:11 PM

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They were better then, thats for sure.

I dont disagree with that. I hate the divas who are there because they're failed models (ex: bellas, eva marie)

celtics · 03-10-2015, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gorillaz

Go back and watch her matches with paige in nxt, especially the womens title crowning match. Yes she has a retarded gimmick, but since vince is vince and creative is creative, thats why it happened. You'll be complaining as soon as the other divas get called up who will get 2 minutes of ring time. Its safer to keep them down in nxt where they're actually allowed to have time for a match.

This reference is a few years old but it's like when they had Kaval and made him with Mccool and layla. It doesn't always matter if your a good wrestler.

dlouisb1313 · 03-11-2015, 04:11 PM

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I dont disagree with that. I hate the divas who are there because they're failed models (ex: bellas, eva marie)

I was just thinking of asking this after Monday night. Eva was at ringside. Has she ever been in a match even. I occasionally watch Divas,but she's always hurt,or sick. I've never once seen her in an actual match.

DannyHultzenFan · 03-11-2015, 05:27 PM

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I was just thinking of asking this after Monday night. Eva was at ringside. Has she ever been in a match even. I occasionally watch Divas,but she's always hurt,or sick. I've never once seen her in an actual match.

She was in the vickie Guerrero divas invitational at wrestlemania 30 other then that I've only seen her compete in like one other match off the top of my head

Pot Roast · 03-11-2015, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jedi1823

Also Lesnar not wrestling means it's Heyman selling the feud, and that is amazing.

I'd love it if everything we've seen involving Lesnar, is all a work and he's winning at Mania. He then proceeds to wrestle 5 matches over the course of the next year where he wins them all, and finally is vanquished at Mania 32. That would be perfect, build it as the company knows nobody is even close to Brock, so they're trying everything to take him down.

They backed the wrong shield horse. Dean winning the title would make WWEUniverse explode.

Jedi1823 · 03-11-2015, 06:02 PM

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They backed the wrong shield horse. Dean winning the title would make WWEUniverse explode.

They didn't back the wrong one, they just massively screwed up the booking. Roman got over as a silent badass that just wrecks people, so of course they have him cutting long jokey promos, having even matches with Big Show, and tearing down everything that made him hugely over.

Hell on Raw this past Monday, Heyman tears down Roman's family, and Roman doesn't interrupt. That doesn't help Roman. They're making him look horrible.

Wolves4Life · 03-11-2015, 06:44 PM

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She was in the vickie Guerrero divas invitational at wrestlemania 30 other then that I've only seen her compete in like one other match off the top of my head

She beat AJ on Smackdown a few months ago.

Rhyster66 · 03-12-2015, 08:57 AM

Bryan led a yes chant at the Suns game yesterday, but the WWE will most likely act like it never happened. It is pretty much INSANE that this company is deciding to push a guy NO ONE likes over Bryan, who is over with almost everyone apart from muscle marks.

Wolves4Life · 03-12-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jedi1823

They didn't back the wrong one, they just massively screwed up the booking. Roman got over as a silent badass that just wrecks people, so of course they have him cutting long jokey promos, having even matches with Big Show, and tearing down everything that made him hugely over.

Hell on Raw this past Monday, Heyman tears down Roman's family, and Roman doesn't interrupt. That doesn't help Roman. They're making him look horrible.

I disagree, Heyman tearing down Roman family is making him stronger for Wrestlemania. Reigns doesn't need to respond. They have it set up as the more Reigns is torn down by Heyman, Reigns will use that anger and energy at Wrestlemania to "conquer the beast" and beat Lesnar as Wrestlemania.

Wolves4Life · 03-12-2015, 10:22 AM

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Bryan led a yes chant at the Suns game yesterday, but the WWE will most likely act like it never happened. It is pretty much INSANE that this company is deciding to push a guy NO ONE likes over Bryan, who is over with almost everyone apart from muscle marks.

Bryan had his chance. He got hurt. He blew it not the WWE. They can't trust him.

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,460	Oh btw WWE needs to stop wasting Emma.

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Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,460	Look up her NXT and Indy stuff.

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Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,870	I've been spoiled by joshi wrestling here in Japan. It's so good consistantly that I can't take any WWE diva match seriously. It's a joke.

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Ty Hope Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,870	I would LOVE that scenerio

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Rhyster66 Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 5,304 Davidg1972	Bryan led a yes chant at the Suns game yesterday, but the WWE will most likely act like it never happened. It is pretty much INSANE that this company is deciding to push a guy NO ONE likes over Bryan, who is over with almost everyone apart from muscle marks.