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Old 07-19-2020, 09:04 AM   #12876
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I hear you. I have to get this card graded, but having a hard time letting it go/out of safe-deposit box to even get graded. Can you hire a bodyguard for a card while it is being graded? I had hoped to get graded this spring, but the virus closings disrupted my plans. I can't decide - PSA or BGS? If anyone has experience in getting a high-end card graded, I'd be glad to hear from you. Long-time collector, but have never submitted a card for grading. Pretty sure I don't want to drop this one in the mail.


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Wow, what a beaut. I feel the struggle dropping something like that at USPS. You're best off just trading it away to me.
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Old 07-19-2020, 09:43 AM   #12877
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Any guesses on where this ends. I dang near fell over when I just seen it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353142011747

I've got a 9 and 10 so very much watching.
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:15 AM   #12878
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Any guesses on where this ends. I dang near fell over when I just seen it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353142011747

I've got a 9 and 10 so very much watching.
On the one hand I love it because I own a raw 2018 silver prizm, but on the other it was depressing that when I inspected it, it looks like a 7 or 8 . Adventures of buying raw... can't complain too much though because it was and is very hard to find in any condition. Found it in a poorly title lot for $35 back in Spring 2019.

I have a couple of other Mahomes that are very rare but likely in the 7-8 range. Not sure if I should hold raw, just grade and hope for the best or sub with a min grade of 8. Just get it slabbed as authentic at some point? Any advice?
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:18 AM   #12879
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The Eagle has landed, gents.

Will reveal here sometime during the day, Saturday.
Where is it? The Mahomesboys are waiting...
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:22 AM   #12880
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Any guesses on where this ends. I dang near fell over when I just seen it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353142011747

I've got a 9 and 10 so very much watching.


I’m right there with you looking on. Not the same comp but I do have this: very hard to gauge value with it so rare




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Old 07-19-2020, 10:35 AM   #12881
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I bought this today after seeing the posts on it a few pages back. Maybe a mistake at that price but I was mesmerized by the pictures on different colored backgrounds

I also bought a Blue Luka Phoenix after seeing it in a post. The force is strong with these boards!! Beautiful card though.

I was trying to pick one up as well. Offered $350 for this one, surprised he didn't counter knowing he had your $360 offer on the table. Either way, congrats on the pick-up.

I'll keep saying this because I feel like it's just too big of a factor not to be discussed... the lack of 10,000+ base Prizm rookies like the basektball comparatives is why we are seeing this demand in "low/end" and/or inserts. This is why Optic Rated Rookie PSA 10 prices as of late don't completely shock me. It's the most widely available base rookie from the 2nd/3rd best brand(not counting NT, contenders, etc) to Prizm. Select is right there too, base rookies seem to be much more rare, although i haven't studied the pop report in awhile.

EDIT: I also understand the prizm silver is a base rookie, but it trades like a silver

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Old 07-19-2020, 10:36 AM   #12882
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:13 PM   #12883
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On the one hand I love it because I own a raw 2018 silver prizm, but on the other it was depressing that when I inspected it, it looks like a 7 or 8 . Adventures of buying raw... can't complain too much though because it was and is very hard to find in any condition. Found it in a poorly title lot for $35 back in Spring 2019.

I have a couple of other Mahomes that are very rare but likely in the 7-8 range. Not sure if I should hold raw, just grade and hope for the best or sub with a min grade of 8. Just get it slabbed as authentic at some point? Any advice?
I am on the same boat. I’ve got a few high end patty’s that wouldn’t grade any higher than a 7. Would love to get them slabbed at PSA and labeled as authentic but I’m worried that it would be a turn off to potential buyers, because they may think that they’ve been altered or messed with.
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Old 07-19-2020, 01:19 PM   #12884
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I am on the same boat. I’ve got a few high end patty’s that wouldn’t grade any higher than a 7. Would love to get them slabbed at PSA and labeled as authentic but I’m worried that it would be a turn off to potential buyers, because they may think that they’ve been altered or messed with.
No higher than a 7 and they are high end? What did you do to them?!
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:10 PM   #12885
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I have been trying to figure out for awhile now how the grading companies determine the centering for the XRC's. There seem to be a lot of inconsistencies from card to card. Maybe I'm wrong, but if the card was perfectly centered, wouldn't the "arcs" on the left and right side be the same size and both be spaced the same from the top and bottom of the card? I don't own the card in the pic, and I drew in the red lines to show and compare the difference in the height of the start/end points of the two arcs. Clearly the arc on the left is longer than the one on the right, they aren't even close, but BGS gave the centering for this card a perfect 10, and we all know they don't give 10's out very easily. Are the arcs supposed to be different sizes/heights? I've seen others that they gave centering a 9.5 that still don't seem close to perfect, but are closer than this one. I own an XRC Tie Dye and base, both raw, and have just been wondering how to judge the centering. Any thoughts on this?

If you try to figure out why a BGS 10 got a 10, you're going to have a bad time. The truth is grading is very subjective, the person looking at the card decided this one will be a 10 today. If it weren't subjective you could crack and resub and get the same results every time. Ask how many people would be willing to crack their 10s and resub to experiment, the answer would be 0. BGS Black Label? Forget it, you might get a 9.5 on the next sub. It feels like a lot of times they will look at a card, determine if it's a 9 or 9.5 or whatever, and then assign subgrades to get that result without actually worrying about the accuracy of those subs, I feel this is especially true with items submitted RCR as they already know the grade. You can have two of the same card with 10 centering that are clearly centered differently. My advice would be to not worry about it as you're not going to get consistency.
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:56 PM   #12886
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If you try to figure out why a BGS 10 got a 10, you're going to have a bad time. The truth is grading is very subjective, the person looking at the card decided this one will be a 10 today. If it weren't subjective you could crack and resub and get the same results every time. Ask how many people would be willing to crack their 10s and resub to experiment, the answer would be 0. BGS Black Label? Forget it, you might get a 9.5 on the next sub. It feels like a lot of times they will look at a card, determine if it's a 9 or 9.5 or whatever, and then assign subgrades to get that result without actually worrying about the accuracy of those subs, I feel this is especially true with items submitted RCR as they already know the grade. You can have two of the same card with 10 centering that are clearly centered differently. My advice would be to not worry about it as you're not going to get consistency.
Not exactly a glowing endorsement of the grading industry
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:16 PM   #12887
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If you try to figure out why a BGS 10 got a 10, you're going to have a bad time. The truth is grading is very subjective, the person looking at the card decided this one will be a 10 today. If it weren't subjective you could crack and resub and get the same results every time. Ask how many people would be willing to crack their 10s and resub to experiment, the answer would be 0. BGS Black Label? Forget it, you might get a 9.5 on the next sub. It feels like a lot of times they will look at a card, determine if it's a 9 or 9.5 or whatever, and then assign subgrades to get that result without actually worrying about the accuracy of those subs, I feel this is especially true with items submitted RCR as they already know the grade. You can have two of the same card with 10 centering that are clearly centered differently. My advice would be to not worry about it as you're not going to get consistency.
Yeah, I agree with sleeper. I’ve spent quite a bit of time evaluating the centering on the xrc, as well as how beckett assigns centering grades to the xrc specifically. Riddled with inconsistencies.
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:27 PM   #12888
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Are there any Mahomes/chiefs super bowl cards?
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:32 PM   #12889
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Are there any Mahomes/chiefs super bowl cards?
Yes. There are 5 different Mahomes in each of these blasters.

https://shop.chiefs.com/kansas-city-...ID:i-r0c2:po-2
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:33 PM   #12890
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Yes. There are 5 different Mahomes in each of these blasters.

https://shop.chiefs.com/kansas-city-...ID:i-r0c2:po-2
Thanks. Any idea how large the print run is?
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Old 07-19-2020, 03:37 PM   #12891
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Thanks. Any idea how large the print run is?

I honestly don't know. I picked up 3 for myself.
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:02 PM   #12892
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Haven’t seen many of these I own two. A guy is wanting to work a deal on one of them. Anyone have an idea of the value. Panini says they are a print run of 25 or less.


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Old 07-19-2020, 04:03 PM   #12893
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Are there any Mahomes/chiefs super bowl cards?
2020 donruss football will have “ Champ is here” insert set
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:04 PM   #12894
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:32 PM   #12895
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Haven’t seen many of these I own two. A guy is wanting to work a deal on one of them. Anyone have an idea of the value. Panini says they are a print run of 25 or less.


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I have had my eBay saved search set up for a mahomes aqueous since the super bowl and none have showed up. I bet if you listed one it would bring at least $1000.
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:43 PM   #12896
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Any guesses on where this ends. I dang near fell over when I just seen it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353142011747

I've got a 9 and 10 so very much watching.
No surprise here.

His first true Silver, and the rarest Prizm Silver Panini has ever come out with, in any sport.

To me, this is sort of like the 1992 Brett Favre Stadium Club to the 1991 Favre Stadium Club.
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:57 PM   #12897
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Didn't see this posted anywhere, but Prizm Scope /99 PSA 10 sold for $9,000 today. Highest sale of that card for sure. There's a weird part of me that thinks of silver Prizm PSA 10s are between 5-6k then a card like the Scope /99 PSA 10 should be at least double that, but we all know that's not how it works...yet.

Great sale!
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:10 PM   #12898
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Thanks. Any idea how large the print run is?
2018 Panini Instant #185 and #186 are /746 and /480, still available quite cheap. The print run for the Raptors championship instant set was 49,286 (lol) so I wouldn't count on the cards from these blasters holding much value.

Optic The Champ Is Here should be fuego. All y'all back off because nothing is gonna stop me from getting a Gold /10.
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:18 PM   #12899
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Not the most valuable, but I love this card. I have 3 Prizm RC PSA 9, one would have PSA 10 if sent in Earlier because the bubble is so so faint, but it’s all good.

This may now be my next target since it's relatively affordable and is pretty awesome looking in my opinion. I see one on ebay now but it looks like there may be some surface scratches and the top right corner looks funky. Anyone have a lead on one or an extra they'd like to unload?
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Old 07-19-2020, 05:22 PM   #12900
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Didn't see this posted anywhere, but Prizm Scope /99 PSA 10 sold for $9,000 today. Highest sale of that card for sure. There's a weird part of me that thinks of silver Prizm PSA 10s are between 5-6k then a card like the Scope /99 PSA 10 should be at least double that, but we all know that's not how it works...yet.

Great sale!
Thanks for this. I have the only one that's a bgs 10, so this is gettin me excited.
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