2016 bowman pricing predictions

[zacsoccer6]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

Not knocking anyone here but i don't think there is much truth to some of the names being short printed. I busted a ton of wax in 13 when there was Buxton and Correa and I did not see any signs of being short printed. Bryant I think maaaaaaaaaaaaaay have had some truth to the rumor but not even sure about that. Topps definitely knew about the Bryant hobby potential but still there were a ton on ebay when that came out.

I was either lucky or they weren't SP, in less than a case I got a Buxton and 2 Correa. Sadly sold both Correa for 65 a piece...

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by zacsoccer6

I was either lucky or they weren't SP, in less than a case I got a Buxton and 2 Correa. Sadly sold both Correa for 65 a piece...

ouch but yes i dont think there will be sp in the prospects

[phil]

Buxton was not SP in 2013

[DOUGSEVIER54]

If predicting a base auto is at, say, Bregman- $50.. Out of curiosity, what's a safe assumption for the refractor auto, colored autos, etc?

Is there a typical scale that's safe to assume? IE: Refractor auto would be worth 1.5x base, etc..?

[blackandgold]

Originally Posted by DOUGSEVIER54

If predicting a base auto is at, say, Bregman- $50.. Out of curiosity, what's a safe assumption for the refractor auto, colored autos, etc?

Is there a typical scale that's safe to assume? IE: Refractor auto would be worth 1.5x base, etc..?

I think most people will agree
Ref X1.5
Blue X3
Gold X8
Orange X12
Red X18
Super X100

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

I think most people will agree
Ref X1.5
Blue X3
Gold X8
Orange X12
Red X18
Super X100

agree with most the super is prob a little high

[bighunt172]

what will the prices end up on Houdinis 10 caser tonight

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

I think most people will agree
Ref X1.5
Blue X3
Gold X8
Orange X12
Red X18
Super X100

Red, in general, is closer to 30-40x raw base.

That being said at release expect all the color to go for more than standard multipliers.

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

Red, in general, is closer to 30-40x raw base.

That being said at release expect all the color to go for more than standard multipliers.

reds are that high?

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by bighunt172

reds are that high?

In general yes.

To me these are multipliers on standard colors:

1.5x base - refractors
3x base - blue
8-10x base -gold
12-15x base - orange
30-40x base - red
80-120x base - super

[bighunt172]

i just hope Meada and Moncada arent sp

[valleyofsun]

Originally Posted by jewcer2k5

In general yes.

To me these are multipliers on standard colors:

1.5x base - refractors
3x base - blue
8-10x base -gold
12-15x base - orange
30-40x base - red
80-120x base - super

Correct. This is more accurate than the previous post. Supers and reds have the most variable amounts as well.

[HadWayTooMuch]

So if a guy has say a $5 auto, is there a buyer at $50 if it's gold for a dead common?

With Topps Chrome, Golds of dead commons sell dirt cheap.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by HadWayTooMuch

So if a guy has say a $5 auto, is there a buyer at $50 if it's gold for a dead common?

With Topps Chrome, Golds of dead commons sell dirt cheap.

If his base auto is selling for $5 he's not a dead common. But the answer is it should sell for 40-50 in general.

[bighunt172]

Who sells for more. Moncada or maeda. And why?

[festus]

Originally Posted by bighunt172

Who sells for more. Moncada or maeda. And why?

The guy from Japan because he's from Japan

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by festus

The guy from Japan because he's from Japan

Really think that? Even with Moncada being a position player for Boston ?

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by bighunt172

Really think that? Even with Moncada being a position player for Boston ?

Sometimes this can be really overblown. Such as the time when Mookie Betts flirted with 0.400 while in AA, and his chrome autos still had a tough time breaking $40.

Others like Lars Anderson, for some reason, were hyped beyond belief and debuted at $70. The Boston market has no idea what it's doing.

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Sometimes this can be really overblown. Such as the time when Mookie Betts flirted with 0.400 while in AA, and his chrome autos still had a tough time breaking $40.

Others like Lars Anderson, for some reason, were hyped beyond belief and debuted at $70. The Boston market has no idea what it's doing.

Lol this is true.

[dasiegel]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

I think most people will agree
Ref X1.5
Blue X3
Gold X8
Orange X12
Red X18
Super X100

I disagree with multipliers for anything but a loose guideline, especially when it gets past blues. If someone has a base auto for $25 a guy like Gleyber Torres has an orange that goes for $450 which is 18x. On the flip side, very few people with a $50 auto would have a super go for anywhere near $5000.

When people try to use the multiplier card in telling me what I should pay I roll my eyes. Not aimed at you blackandgold, but this multiplier stuff should only be used as a very rough estimate.

Originally Posted by bighunt172

Really think that? Even with Moncada being a position player for Boston ?

Maeda started so hot he may be hotter now but for a limited time only IMHO.

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

I disagree with multipliers for anything but a loose guideline, especially when it gets past blues. If someone has a base auto for $25 a guy like Gleyber Torres has an orange that goes for $450 which is 18x. On the flip side, very few people with a $50 auto would have a super go for anywhere near $5000.

When people try to use the multiplier card in telling me what I should pay I roll my eyes. Not aimed at you blackandgold, but this multiplier stuff should only be used as a very rough estimate.



Maeda started so hot he may be hotter now but for a limited time only IMHO.

Maeda has no where to go but down right ? Pitchers rarely sell good for a long time

[phillies7franco]

If I could put the Maeda s I will pull on ebay already , I would.... flavor of the month.

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Value-wise. How can you possibly predict Maeda? We think $100 cause we see GQ sell for $100 but when is the last time a GQ auto sold anywhere close to a BC auto? The surprise could be when those first chromes get listed...what if they sell for stupid money?

Originally Posted by Shinypsptitans

Remember Darvish was hitting $500 base

Hey guys, I know I am late to this, just now catching up, and it may not matter for this year at all but I can say at time of release Darvish GQ autos were selling as high as Bowman, in fact I sold a few of each and got right at that same number, but GQ may have been a little tougher pull overall, I now there were definitely fewer on eBay, but GQ had less production/breaks

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by dasiegel

I disagree with multipliers for anything but a loose guideline, especially when it gets past blues. If someone has a base auto for $25 a guy like Gleyber Torres has an orange that goes for $450 which is 18x. On the flip side, very few people with a $50 auto would have a super go for anywhere near $5000.

When people try to use the multiplier card in telling me what I should pay I roll my eyes. Not aimed at you blackandgold, but this multiplier stuff should only be used as a very rough estimate.

100% agree, I've busted way too much Bowman over the years and it can vary greatly
Seen some base auto guys at $50-$75 and there golds struggle to reach $300
sometimes blues on higher end folks sell at strong multipliers compared to say gold (meaning blue and gold have closer values than normal) because the prices get too high & prices some out
and at times I have seen golds and oranges go right around same numbers or very close, Devers and Buxton were that way with me, and Buxton had high Blue values but it was tougher for me to get a good multiplier for the higher end golds in comparison, at the time

also depends if base auto is sp or not, as sometimes there are fewer base around then some color
and I would also say I have seen many ref autos sell for same as base or 1.2x at most for several guys
so, there are guidelines but it can vary widely, IMO


ps---anyone else wondering how the value that is not here this year compared to last will be replaced, or what it means for production, or odds on color with much smaller checklists? Not saying it is bad thing, just curious how it will all breakdown, as when breaking down the numbers, doesn't look promising, as we may be looking at every jumbo case having the same base autos repeated and crushing non-sp value, YET I realize it is WAY too early to say that, just looking at numbers compared to last year and very curious

[bighunt172]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

Hey guys, I know I am late to this, just now catching up, and it may not matter for this year at all but I can say at time of release Darvish GQ autos were selling as high as Bowman, in fact I sold a few of each and got right at that same number, but GQ may have been a little tougher pull overall, I now there were definitely fewer on eBay, but GQ had less production/breaks

Who do you think will be sp? And what do you think the top 5-6 should sell for out of the gate