Cooper Flagg

[JWBlue]

It wasn't rigged.

Signed...1985 Knicks.

[49ersSF]

Originally Posted by Delta5

why would giannis want to play for bottom dweller in Mavs? He said he wanted to win the ring

Are you kidding me? If it were true and he went to Dallas they'd have the following.

Giannis, AD, Kyrie.

But, that will not happen.

Giannis is a Spur.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

It wasn't rigged.

Signed...1985 Knicks.

Hey at least that was live.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEeXNxfQUc0

[spurs50fan]

One more to pique the notion of feeding big markets. Maybe why Pop refused to send Kawhi there AND complained about the Gasol trade

https://x.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1922156397912826187

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by spurs50fan

One more to pique the notion of feeding big markets. Maybe why Pop refused to send Kawhi there AND complained about the Gasol trade

https://x.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1922156397912826187

It’s rigged!


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[livfreely]

With that said, what are the go to RC’s to get? I don’t want an umpteen thousand print prizm silver, but something special.

What would that card be when they come out?


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[NickyCards]

Originally Posted by livfreely

With that said, what are the go to RC’s to get? I don’t want an umpteen thousand print prizm silver, but something special.

What would that card be when they come out?


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Topps takes over in October. His Topps Chrome will be the card.

[anusinha]

Topps chrome gold or blue refractor for the color match. Will they make a Dynasty auto patch?

[kipgen]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Topps chrome gold or blue refractor for the color match. Will they make a Dynasty auto patch?

For sure

Unfortunately they will also be crazy expensive

[gomiamigo]

Someone suggested a possible: AD for PG, #3 pick, 2028 unprotected LAC pick, future 76ers pick. It's an interesting thought. Esp as the Clips might really suck in 3 years.

It would also give the Mavs a ton of add'tl draft capital to go get Giannis, in addition to pkg a couple of guys like PJ Washington to make salaries match.

[Asian62150]

Mavs said they want Flagg and aren't looking to trade the pick.

I don't get why teams limit themselves like this. Just say you're looking for the best way to improve your franchise and at least field offers for the #1 pick. Maybe some team will give you a godfather offer. You can always say no.

[Bosoxfan5990]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Mavs said they want Flagg and aren't looking to trade the pick.

I don't get why teams limit themselves like this. Just say you're looking for the best way to improve your franchise and at least field offers for the #1 pick. Maybe some team will give you a godfather offer. You can always say no.

The Mavs are the kings of limiting themselves.

Don't you remember they just limited themselves in the Luka trade?

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by NickyCards

Topps takes over in October. His Topps Chrome will be the card.

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[livfreely]

Originally Posted by anusinha

Topps chrome gold or blue refractor for the color match. Will they make a Dynasty auto patch?

Going for the parallels then!


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[livfreely]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Mavs said they want Flagg and aren't looking to trade the pick.

I don't get why teams limit themselves like this. Just say you're looking for the best way to improve your franchise and at least field offers for the #1 pick. Maybe some team will give you a godfather offer. You can always say no.

Would you rather have Giannis or Flag?

From a business perspective….Flag


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[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by livfreely

Would you rather have Giannis or Flag?

From a business perspective….Flag


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That's not the point...

[livfreely]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

That's not the point...

Why waste time. If you know you know. There’s no point in taking offers. It’s just a waste of time then.


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[ninjabum87]

Originally Posted by livfreely

Would you rather have Giannis or Flag?

From a business perspective….Flag


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Didn't Nico just trade the future to "win now"? His window dies with AD unless he turns AD into something better as well. He will always be the dude who killed a fandom unless he strings together a few years of dominance IMO.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by livfreely

Why waste time. If you know you know. There’s no point in taking offers. It’s just a waste of time then.


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If you're not exhausting every avenue to improve the team and increase their chances of winning, you're simply not doing your job.

To start a team, I'd take Flagg and his rookie contract over Giannis and his $52M-$60M annual salary, but the Mavs are in win-now mode.

Would the Bucks be willing to throw any more into the deal? Giannis + role players/expiring contracts/draft picks? You don't know if you aren't taking offers.

If you're the GM, you say you're not taking offers because you're lazy or incompetent. Maybe both. If I heard the GM of my team talk like that, I would be pretty frustrated.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Mavs said they want Flagg and aren't looking to trade the pick.

I don't get why teams limit themselves like this. Just say you're looking for the best way to improve your franchise and at least field offers for the #1 pick. Maybe some team will give you a godfather offer. You can always say no.

I know what you’re getting at, but I think the GF offer was a horse’s head in his bed.

[al3xmac10]

Bill Simmons made a great point -

Cooper Flagg can regain HOPE in the Mavs fanbase.

[ninjacookies]

Fakers/Jazz/Wizz maximalists down bad.

Dallas mortgages the farm for Glass Joe. Everyone claims the most lopsided trade since Griner for Merchant of Death. Yet both squads get trounced early. And Nico gets gifted the next Great Blanco Hope successor.


While I respect the Spurs fanbase, they have absolutely no say in 'rigged' or 'favorable' draft rigging Stifle theories.

IIRC, Spurs have either stayed the same or moved up in EVERY draft they've been in, and moved up in every scenario where they're a projected top 8 pick. Got Slemby last year, now get a free shot at Harper . Insane.

Conversely, the Mavs have NEVER moved up in their team's history. This 1/50 scenario, while quite unlikely, isn't some astronomical event, and especially when you take into consideration how many times they've been stumped in the past. Seems more like a regression to the mean. You break enough hobby cases and you're bound to eventually strike a Nebula.

In any event, looking forward to the revised lineup with gentrified Tatum and a hopefully healthy flat earther.


M4L.

[oldgoldy97]

Coop: “I love the idea of going to Dallas so I can play with Luka in a few years.”

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Fakers/Jazz/Wizz maximalists down bad.

Dallas mortgages the farm for Glass Joe. Everyone claims the most lopsided trade since Griner for Merchant of Death. Yet both squads get trounced early. And Nico gets gifted the next Great Blanco Hope successor.


While I respect the Spurs fanbase, they have absolutely no say in 'rigged' or 'favorable' draft rigging Stifle theories.

IIRC, Spurs have either stayed the same or moved up in EVERY draft they've been in, and moved up in every scenario where they're a projected top 8 pick. Got Slemby last year, now get a free shot at Harper . Insane.

Conversely, the Mavs have NEVER moved up in their team's history. This 1/50 scenario, while quite unlikely, isn't some astronomical event, and especially when you take into consideration how many times they've been stumped in the past. Seems more like a regression to the mean. You break enough hobby cases and you're bound to eventually strike a Nebula.

In any event, looking forward to the revised lineup with gentrified Tatum and a hopefully healthy flat earther.


M4L.

I definitely won't run from the inclusion of the Spurs in the rigged conversation. Especially with Wemby...the since childhood story...from France...mentored by Parker...on and on. EVERYONE knew where he was going. tbh looked like Flagg wanted to join him so I was side-eyeing the move up. And was a little relieved tbh that the Spurs got #2 because then Houston AND Dallas would be upset today

And Castle last year at 4 where they finished with the 5th worst record wasn't a stretch. So I may regress from "rigged" but the results are strangely convenient. Undeniably, bet on it convenient. Especially for the situation the Mavs found themselves in to re-engage an estranged fanbase after gifting a storied franchise a new lung. Everybody wins. Even remembering Lebron's vacation to Miami. Cavs got like 3/4 #1s? It does beg the question because who has hit like that, after losing a superstar, which is where the scrutiny lies.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by spurs50fan

I definitely won't run from the inclusion of the Spurs in the rigged conversation. Especially with Wemby...the since childhood story...from France...mentored by Parker...on and on. EVERYONE knew where he was going. tbh looked like Flagg wanted to join him so I was side-eyeing the move up. And was a little relieved tbh that the Spurs got #2 because then Houston AND Dallas would be upset today

And Castle last year at 4 where they finished with the 5th worst record wasn't a stretch. So I may regress from "rigged" but the results are strangely convenient. Undeniably, bet on it convenient. Especially for the situation the Mavs found themselves in to re-engage an estranged fanbase after gifting a storied franchise a new lung. Everybody wins. Even remembering Lebron's vacation to Miami. Cavs got like 3/4 #1s? It does beg the question because who has hit like that, after losing a superstar, which is where the scrutiny lies.

Firstly, I appreciate your self awareness and candor. Salute. And if it's any Texas team that I not-so-openly support, it's the Spurs. Classy organization that deserves everything good that has and continues to come its way.

The optics definitely couldn't have been worse. And we all know corruption exists and has already been exposed throughout the NBA's history.


However, there are certain control measures that would make some giant draft lottery collusion theory quite difficult.


There are 14 prominent members of the NBA media present during the drawing (several household names). They are accompanied by a matching amount of team representatives, all sitting with a watchful eye praying their ball doesn't get drawn early.


So essentially, it would take 28 separate individuals, along with the staked reputation of one of the largest domestic accounting agencies in existence...to all be in unison with some grand orchestrated Gollum scheme to gift ONE undeserving franchise with a pick...strictly off the strength of somehow salvaging the league whilst simultaneously screwing over 13 other squads on the possibility of acquiring a franchise transforming talent....just cuz they want to help rectify the wrongs of a lopsided trade that they were not even a part of.


Now I don't know how many GM's would be particularly keen on this voluntary sacrifice, as a great majority of them spent their entire season intentionally tanking and conceding revenue all in the hopes of having the best odds of landing a generational talent. I'm also fairly certain the players and players union wouldn't take well to such an inside yet not so inside secret.


Is it possible? Sure. Anything in life is possible. Is it likely? Probably not.