Can a man and woman be friends? - Page 5

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Keeping doing dude stuff on the down low. It makes way more sense now

I’m out

You’ve said nothing in response to any of my points. Thank you for your insight.

Good thing I made a thread for you to voice your displeasures

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

OK… I said I was out but I’m not

The best man in my wedding was a gay guy

Thoughts? Feelings? Concerns?

What do we have in common? Are we just dudes doing dude stuff?

Not sure how a gay man has anything to do with us talking about women.

Good try though.

asujbl · 10-03-2023, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

You’ve said nothing in response to any of my points. Thank you for your insight.

Good thing I made a thread for you to voice your displeasures

Your ridiculous sexist attitude? I do not pleasure that

asujbl · 10-03-2023, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Not sure how a gay man has anything to do with us talking about women.

Good try though.

I’d love to know your thoughts though…

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Your ridiculous sexist attitude? I do not pleasure that

Not sexist. What do men and women have in common?

I have made no sexist remarks. I have not said men are better than women. I said MEN and WOMEN are OPPOSITES.

asujbl · 10-03-2023, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Not sexist. What do men and women have in common?

I have made no sexist remarks. I have not said men are better than women. I said MEN and WOMEN are OPPOSITES.

Enjoy your sad unfulfilled life. I’m out

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Enjoy your sad unfulfilled life. I’m out

You failed to explain your side even once. Thanks for the insults, really proves your point.

ksemmel · 10-03-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Please tell me what men and women have in common?

So is every woman the exact same? You don’t think there is a single female in the world that you can have a friendship with that you don’t want to sleep with or will make you feminine?

You are a guy. I think we are polar opposites. In this thread you’ve insulted all women, every man that disagrees with you and have made rash overgeneralizations. My female friends don’t do that, and actually neither do my male friends as I wouldn’t want someone in my inner circle like that as it doesn’t align with my morals.

Long way to say I have more in common with most women than I do with you, a guy. But yet, as you’ve stated, men and women have nothing at all in common and men are not allowed to be friends with women in your eyes.

Maybe I’m delusional at 30 years old, but I’m literally shocked this is actually a conversation. Safe bet to say there is a massive age gap between you and me?

Siberian13 · 10-03-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

You’ve said nothing in response to any of my points. Thank you for your insight.

Good thing I made a thread for you to voice your displeasures

Siberian13 · 10-03-2023, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

So is every woman the exact same? You don’t think there is a single female in the world that you can have a friendship with that you don’t want to sleep with or will make you feminine?

You are a guy. I think we are polar opposites. In this thread you’ve insulted all women, every man that disagrees with you and have made rash overgeneralizations. My female friends don’t do that, and actually neither do my male friends as I wouldn’t want someone in my inner circle like that as it doesn’t align with my morals.

Long way to say I have more in common with most women than I do with you, a guy. But yet, as you’ve stated, men and women have nothing at all in common and men are not allowed to be friends with women in your eyes.

Maybe I’m delusional at 30 years old, but I’m literally shocked this is actually a conversation. Safe bet to say there is a massive age gap between you and me?

Just look at the voting so far. Seems a good bit say no. I’m sure if this was a question to a larger group it would be similar. So I’d think quite a few feel the same as him.

TheFrenzy · 10-03-2023, 04:32 PM

Eh, a lot of it comes down to what you saw growing up and what your local culture is.

It would be foolish to deny that there are millions of Americans whose lives have shown them that when people aren't being watched, they get into trouble and do things thinking only of themselves.

For a lot of people, the advice that "you should just trust people even when they are knowingly putting themselves in compromising situations" is the kind of stuff that gets you stabbed in the back.

It's easy for people who don't come from that kind of world to look down on it, but its daily life for some people.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

So is every woman the exact same? You don’t think there is a single female in the world that you can have a friendship with that you don’t want to sleep with or will make you feminine?

You are a guy. I think we are polar opposites. In this thread you’ve insulted all women, every man that disagrees with you and have made rash overgeneralizations. My female friends don’t do that, and actually neither do my male friends as I wouldn’t want someone in my inner circle like that as it doesn’t align with my morals.

Long way to say I have more in common with most women than I do with you, a guy. But yet, as you’ve stated, men and women have nothing at all in common and men are not allowed to be friends with women in your eyes.

Maybe I’m delusional at 30 years old, but I’m literally shocked this is actually a conversation. Safe bet to say there is a massive age gap between you and me?

We disagree on this specific topic, but we are both on a cardboard forum about sports. I guarantee you we have more in common than you think. Just because we have different opinions on this matter does not mean we disagree on everything.

I would love to see where I have insulted women, because I don’t think I did, and that was not my intention at all. I am not saying men and women are not allowed to be friends, I am saying that I can’t see how they can be friends.

I have had many female acquaintances, where we would hang out in groups, but not a real friend in my eyes. You have your experiences and I have mine, I already said I have nothing wrong with any of your opinions on the matter.

And I don’t think it’s necessarily due to an age gap, but on how we were raised and the environment we grew up in. There is 6 years between us.

ksemmel · 10-03-2023, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

Just look at the voting so far. Seems a good bit say no. I’m sure if this was a question to a larger group it would be similar. So I’d think quite a few feel the same as him.

But the question is always flawed. Can a man and woman be friends. The answer is yes. I have two very close female friends. Some people may not be able to for whatever reason, but it can happen.

I met both my female friends before I was 20 years old. Now that I’m 30 and in a relationship, I very likely would not develop a 1 on 1 friendship like that with a female but rather a couple.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Eh, a lot of it comes down to what you saw growing up and what your local culture is.

It would be foolish to deny that there are millions of Americans whose lives have shown them that when people aren't being watched, they get into trouble and do things thinking only of themselves.

For a lot of people, the advice that "you should just trust people even when they are knowingly putting themselves in compromising situations" is the kind of stuff that gets you stabbed in the back.

It's easy for people who don't come from that kind of world to look down on it, but its daily life for some people.

You should be a professional arbitrator. I always feel like you make great unbiased write ups that both sides of an issue can relate to.

mmbtvs · 10-03-2023, 04:39 PM

I see some people talking about it being respectful to your significant other to stay away from the opposite gender.

I believe that respecting your significant other is trusting them to be around people of the opposite gender without it having any adverse affects on your relationship.

If you are unable to look at someone of the opposite sex without having sexual thoughts about them, and being able to just see them as a person, the same as a person of any gender, then you are part of the problem.

sportzluvr1 · 10-03-2023, 04:48 PM

I'm attractive and somewhat young.

Most of you are not.

We're all playing by different rules and circumstances here.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mmbtvs

I see some people talking about it being respectful to your significant other to stay away from the opposite gender.

I believe that respecting your significant other is trusting them to be around people of the opposite gender without it having any adverse affects on your relationship.

If you are unable to look at someone of the opposite sex without having sexual thoughts about them, and being able to just see them as a person, the same as a person of any gender, then you are part of the problem.

It’s not really sexual thoughts. If I am in a relationship, I just have zero interest in anyone else outside of my SO.

If I couldn’t contain my sexual thoughts for other women, I wouldn’t be in a relationship. I am talking specifically one on one interactions with the opposite gender - you avoid those out of respect to your SO. If you are at work or in a group, that is different.

ksemmel · 10-03-2023, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

It’s not really sexual thoughts. If I am in a relationship, I just have zero interest in anyone else outside of my SO.

If I couldn’t contain my sexual thoughts for other women, I wouldn’t be in a relationship. I am talking specifically one on one interactions with the opposite gender - you avoid those out of respect to your SO. If you are at work or in a group, that is different.

So I met both female friends 13 years ago. I met my gf 2 years ago. Should I drop all of my female friends because I have a gf now?

Can I make a female friend if I’m single at 20, 30, 40?

You are using the SO as your talking point, but what if you don’t have a SO, can you make a deep friendship with a female that has nothing sexual or physical behind it?

mmbtvs · 10-03-2023, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

It’s not really sexual thoughts. If I am in a relationship, I just have zero interest in anyone else outside of my SO.

If I couldn’t contain my sexual thoughts for other women, I wouldn’t be in a relationship. I am talking specifically one on one interactions with the opposite gender - you avoid those out of respect to your SO. If you are at work or in a group, that is different.

If it's not sexual then what does respect for gender have to do with it. Just think of everyone else as people. Gender becomes irrelevant.

no10pin · 10-03-2023, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzluvr1

I'm attractive and somewhat young.

Most of you are not.

We're all playing by different rules and circumstances here.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

So I met both female friends 13 years ago. I met my gf 2 years ago. Should I drop all of my female friends because I have a gf now?

Can I make a female friend if I’m single at 20, 30, 40?

You are using the SO as your talking point, but what if you don’t have a SO, can you make a deep friendship with a female that has nothing sexual or physical behind it?

What single man is looking for a female friend and not intimacy? That’s what I am failing to understand.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mmbtvs

If it's not sexual then what does respect for gender have to do with it. Just think of everyone else as people. Gender becomes irrelevant.

Everyone else are people, but I disagree with your last sentence.

I am done here though as I said everything that has needed to be said.

ksemmel · 10-03-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

What single man is looking for a female friend and not intimacy? That’s what I am failing to understand.

I don’t and never have “looked” for friends. Just in casual conversation you learn more about people and they develop over time.what I’m failing to understand is why you are so adament about not being able to be friends with someone just because of their gender. Can you not find someone unattractive and just enjoy the person they are? How is that any different than your male friends?

You say men and women are polar opposites and that’s why we can’t be friends, but if you took the time to learn the individual’s values, beliefs and personality, you might realize you have more in common than you think and develop a friendship.

Again, when you are married, it’s very likely you wouldn’t develop a 1 on 1 friendship with just a female. But my friendships started under the age of 20, have continued all these years, and I’m very grateful for them.!

fulltritty · 10-03-2023, 05:18 PM

This might be the best poll for discussion in Off Topic for the entire year. From now on, oldy should make polls and hairy and BNut should retire permanently.

Braswell10 · 10-03-2023, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ksemmel

I don’t and never have “looked” for friends. Just in casual conversation you learn more about people and they develop over time.what I’m failing to understand is why you are so adament about not being able to be friends with someone just because of their gender. Can you not find someone unattractive and just enjoy the person they are? How is that any different than your male friends?

You say men and women are polar opposites and that’s why we can’t be friends, but if you took the time to learn the individual’s values, beliefs and personality, you might realize you have more in common than you think and develop a friendship.

Again, when you are married, it’s very likely you wouldn’t develop a 1 on 1 friendship with just a female. But my friendships started under the age of 20, have continued all these years, and I’m very grateful for them.!

I respect your opinion my friend, I am glad you have a relationship you value.

No hate, just different perspectives.

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10-03-2023, 04:39 PM	#115
mmbtvs unregistered Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,560	I see some people talking about it being respectful to your significant other to stay away from the opposite gender. I believe that respecting your significant other is trusting them to be around people of the opposite gender without it having any adverse affects on your relationship. If you are unable to look at someone of the opposite sex without having sexual thoughts about them, and being able to just see them as a person, the same as a person of any gender, then you are part of the problem. __________________ -"Close your eyes and remember this. It won't be back again, it's almost gone. Even times that don't seem like much will be your only crutch when you're alone. Time moves slow when you're seventeen and then it picks up steam at twenty-one."

10-03-2023, 04:48 PM	#116
sportzluvr1 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: the blue waffle of the Great Midwest Posts: 7,800	I'm attractive and somewhat young. Most of you are not. We're all playing by different rules and circumstances here. __________________ PSA 10 is a LIAR……(sometimes)

10-03-2023, 04:32 PM	#111
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Eh, a lot of it comes down to what you saw growing up and what your local culture is. It would be foolish to deny that there are millions of Americans whose lives have shown them that when people aren't being watched, they get into trouble and do things thinking only of themselves. For a lot of people, the advice that "you should just trust people even when they are knowingly putting themselves in compromising situations" is the kind of stuff that gets you stabbed in the back. It's easy for people who don't come from that kind of world to look down on it, but its daily life for some people.

10-03-2023, 05:18 PM	#124
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 79,686	This might be the best poll for discussion in Off Topic for the entire year. From now on, oldy should make polls and hairy and BNut should retire permanently.