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Old 02-24-2022, 12:34 PM   #101
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And how many buyers are going to want to pay for it?

I want to be the person deciding whether or not I want to utilize this service for any given purchase. I don't want it being forced upon me by EBay.
Exactly the point. I would potentially, as a buyer, use the service for any of a number of raw cards that I may have reservation over. Also it may increase the chance I'm an active bidder on such cards. But once it rolls over to slabs I see no use for it.
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Old 02-24-2022, 12:49 PM   #102
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In this case it is 99.9% why the card was rejected. I looked at the seller's page and they are a relatively new seller and have sold over 7 Topps "Tiffany" KGJ rookies and have three more for sale. Problem is they use the same image for every sale, they just change around the card images to make it look different. Please look at sale history before buying! A new seller doesn't have a dozen Griffey Tiffanies laying around their house.
It does look like there are many reused photos. Not all are the same card, but some seem to be. In fact in the two current raw auctions they have for the tiffany kgj, looks to me it's the same card featured in the photo of the back, matching visible marks on the card stock. That's very shady.

Then the seller apparently has an sgc graded 10 one, and also 100% feedback, one recent one even one of these griffeys. All very strange.

I do not think the authenticator would have rejected because of grade, since nowhere does it list a grade in the description to match. So either an actual regular Traded card (why would anyone even attempt that knowing it has to go through authenticiation though...if they knew that), or something else to do with authenticity.
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Old 02-26-2022, 03:48 PM   #103
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Received my first 2 cards under the new eBay “service” today. Completely unacceptable and very frustrating. This is how the cards looked when I opened the box. Both out of their sleeves!





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Old 02-26-2022, 04:29 PM   #104
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eBay isn’t very bright.
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:32 PM   #105
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eBay isn’t very bright.
That's actually CSG that does that.
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:37 PM   #106
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That's actually CSG that does that.
I know. But the issue is with the packaging design. Which I think it’s safe to say eBay controls. They went from the two strap design to four strap design when this issue started. Maybe they’ll go to the eight strap design next.
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:37 PM   #107
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Received my first 2 cards under the new eBay “service” today. Completely unacceptable and very frustrating. This is how the cards looked when I opened the box. Both out of their sleeves!


Sure, you’re very believable
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:39 PM   #108
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This is exactly what scares me….that is unacceptable
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:20 PM   #109
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Received my first 2 cards under the new eBay “service” today. Completely unacceptable and very frustrating. This is how the cards looked when I opened the box. Both out of their sleeves!





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Unacceptable. SCG is ruining the 10s we are chasing after we get the raw delivered.
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:35 PM   #110
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Received my first 2 cards under the new eBay “service” today. Completely unacceptable and very frustrating. This is how the cards looked when I opened the box. Both out of their sleeves!





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I’m as surprised these are $500 cards as I am at how poorly they were shipped.
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:41 PM   #111
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Unacceptable. SCG is ruining the 10s we are chasing after we get the raw delivered.
CSG, not SGC.
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:46 PM   #112
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Soft sleeve and top loader in team bag shipped in a box

What in the F+*>]>

Is so hard about that ?
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:13 PM   #113
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Sure, you’re very believable
As believable as you expecting free handouts.
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Old 02-26-2022, 06:38 PM   #114
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This was in my mailbox today. Only time I will ever own anything from CSG.


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Old 02-26-2022, 10:59 PM   #115
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Sure, you’re very believable
Yeh...Im going to purposely screw up my own cards so I can call out eBay on a message board. Get a clue...and then go back to looking for handouts, being the biggest flipper on BO & leaving negatives on eBay (for charges you agreed to and paid for).
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:18 AM   #116
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Painter's tape is cheaper than a strap, no?
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:58 AM   #117
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Just my 2 cents
The eBay cases are ugly and I mean deformed smurf ugly!
Absolutely no benefit here
It’s not graded.
Just somebody who has probably no qualifications saying it’s real.
Delays ownership time
Piss poor packing as we have seen.
And make no mistake
eBay is indemnified somehow in the fine print.
It’s a feature non benefit shell game.....
Like when they made us all accept the new payment system.
A week to get yer money!!
No dear seller it’s better for you errrrrr us
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:19 AM   #118
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Interesting. What prompted them to drop it so quick? They’re just encouraging people to go off of eBay.
It seems the talk is eventually the limit is supposed to be $250.
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Old 02-27-2022, 08:27 AM   #119
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Good the AG program was in place for this instance, but I mean if you received a base topps traded instead of tiffany in the old system, that would be a clear INAD case and return for refund I would have to think. Buyers dont really get burned on ebay like that, it's the entire point of the money back guarantee.

This is an interesting case. The seller does have a few tiffany griffey RCs between their active and complete listings. My eye isnt trained to spot glossy tiffanys, but the pics do look like glossy, and the seller even has an actual sgc graded 10 version up for sale, so you'd think they would understand what a tiffany is.

What is perplexing is in the listing of the one you posted that got rejected, the seller doesnt actually specify condition. In some of the other listings they say HIGH PRE GRADE, and make remarks about condition, but not yours. The only words used are "beautiful card" which is subjective and could mean anything. So Im not so sure the card was rejected on condition grounds, as is usually the case. I wonder if it was indeed something to do with legitimacy (and not just mistaking tiffany vs base). In any case, I wish they would just tell you why it didnt pass, it would help. Seller has one rejected by the Authenticator, and has multiple more up of basically the same thing up for sale now at auction, no mention of having one rejected- somewhat questionable.
Well he either sold the rest of his 3 KGJ Tiffany's or he was told to take them down?
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In this case it is 99.9% why the card was rejected. I looked at the seller's page and they are a relatively new seller and have sold over 7 Topps "Tiffany" KGJ rookies and have three more for sale. Problem is they use the same image for every sale, they just change around the card images to make it look different. Please look at sale history before buying! A new seller doesn't have a dozen Griffey Tiffanies laying around their house.
Well he either sold the rest of his 3 KGJ Tiffany's or he was told to take them down?

Nvmd.

Just checked now and they were sold over the weekend.

He sold 7 tiffany's in 10 days. The last 3 (all using the same photos) for under the ebay authenticity limit.

Call me skeptical, but I don't think any of the raw ones were Tiffany's and ebay authenticity got it right.

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Old 02-27-2022, 06:55 PM   #122
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Well he either sold the rest of his 3 KGJ Tiffany's or he was told to take them down?
He did sell two raw copies just in the last couple days, and it's shame they went for 400 and 280, because those wont go through ebay authentication at those prices, and I wonder if someone got burned.

I think it's pretty ridiculous after it was known the one sold to you didnt pass authentication, the seller let those auctions for basically the same raw tiffany griffey continue like nothing happened- that in itself is shady.
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He did sell two raw copies just in the last couple days, and it's shame they went for 400 and 280, because those wont go through ebay authentication at those prices, and I wonder if someone got burned.

I think it's pretty ridiculous after it was known the one sold to you didnt pass authentication, the seller let those auctions for basically the same raw tiffany griffey continue like nothing happened- that in itself is shady.
How will the buyer get burned unless they don’t know what a Tiffany looks like? This is why the authentication process is useless for a buyer who knows what they are doing. If I get a bad item, it’s getting returned INAD, and I’m getting my money back.
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How will the buyer get burned unless they don’t know what a Tiffany looks like? This is why the authentication process is useless for a buyer who knows what they are doing. If I get a bad item, it’s getting returned INAD, and I’m getting my money back.
Agree. The protection comes for the seller...hopefully.
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He did sell two raw copies just in the last couple days, and it's shame they went for 400 and 280, because those wont go through ebay authentication at those prices, and I wonder if someone got burned.

I think it's pretty ridiculous after it was known the one sold to you didnt pass authentication, the seller let those auctions for basically the same raw tiffany griffey continue like nothing happened- that in itself is shady.

He just listed another 2 Tiffany’s


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