Stolen Card Advice - Page 5

13goyankees13 · 05-05-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleD

I just had another member tell me about this thread and first and foremost I do feel bad to the OP. But you guys need to put the pitchforks down and before calling anyone a scammer let's get the facts straight.
Myself and the OP worked on this trade for quite some time, and at one point I backed out because I did not feel I was ready to trade my card yet. If I wanted to scam him I would have just agreed to any trade and not gone through all the time for this. When the package was delivered it did feel light and when I shook it there was no movement that I could feel. I immediately contacted the OP and told him about it. I suggested FaceTime and I showed him the package all around and asked him if this is how it was shipped. He said that it looked good, so I opened it and the package just had lots of bubble wrap.
I asked him if he was the one that shipped it and he said no, it was a friend or partner that mailed it for him. I asked is this person someone he trusts and he said he trusted this person. At that point I told him to contact FedEx and get a claim going ASAP, and I would hang onto the box as evidence.

I was told a long time ago by my Dad the most important thing we have is our family name and to never dishonour it. In my 52 years on this earth I have followed that and passed it on to my kids. I owned my own card store 30 years ago and my reputation is spotless in this hobby. To all of the people calling me a scammer, when this is over and done with you will be owing me an apology. I have bought/sold/traded with many people on this forum and hope to continue doing this going forward.

Do you have the weight of the package as you received it? Preferably a picture of it on a scale.

Then OP can show the weight FedEx shows, either online or on a printed receipt. If they match up, we know that the issue came somewhere before it got to FedEx and that the problem isn't with DoubleD or FedEx.

ehp6737 · 05-05-2019, 01:11 PM

So someone else shipped/handled the cards for the OP? Wait, what? This info might have been a little important OP, dont you think?

ark8085 · 05-05-2019, 01:14 PM

The weight will answer a lot of questions op...

kidfan9 · 05-05-2019, 01:17 PM

So awesome when folks jump to conclusions before having more facts. Hard to know exactly what happened here but that shouldn’t stop folks from pointing fingers. I have a feeling we are in for a couple more twists and turns before the dust settles.

PDCCollectibles · 05-05-2019, 01:17 PM

Sounds very shady...

Thinking · 05-05-2019, 01:23 PM

OP has to have record of the shipment. So please share a screen shot or photo of the specifics.

This whole thing is starting to turn around 180 degrees.

pcptrade · 05-05-2019, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD

I just had another member tell me about this thread and first and foremost I do feel bad to the OP. But you guys need to put the pitchforks down and before calling anyone a scammer let's get the facts straight.
Myself and the OP worked on this trade for quite some time, and at one point I backed out because I did not feel I was ready to trade my card yet. If I wanted to scam him I would have just agreed to any trade and not gone through all the time for this. When the package was delivered it did feel light and when I shook it there was no movement that I could feel. I immediately contacted the OP and told him about it. I suggested FaceTime and I showed him the package all around and asked him if this is how it was shipped. He said that it looked good, so I opened it and the package just had lots of bubble wrap.
I asked him if he was the one that shipped it and he said no, it was a friend or partner that mailed it for him. I asked is this person someone he trusts and he said he trusted this person. At that point I told him to contact FedEx and get a claim going ASAP, and I would hang onto the box as evidence.

I was told a long time ago by my Dad the most important thing we have is our family name and to never dishonour it. In my 52 years on this earth I have followed that and passed it on to my kids. I owned my own card store 30 years ago and my reputation is spotless in this hobby. To all of the people calling me a scammer, when this is over and done with you will be owing me an apology. I have bought/sold/traded with many people on this forum and hope to continue doing this going forward.

This^^^. Which is why I did not comment because I wanted to hear the other side of the story. I have seen some people here passing abrasive comments and jump on conclusions without knowing the facts. Haters are going to hate and in the end they will look like fools. This happened to me as well when I initially started collecting sports cards. I am not taking any sides here because I still do not know what exactly happened and who is telling the truth. Hope this is resolved in a fair way.

pete2345 · 05-05-2019, 01:42 PM

This is what seems to happen here, Everyone jumps to the side of the OP. Yes it's unfortunate but there are always more than one side of a story, Until all the facts are out there the benefit of doubt should be given.

66_Fiat · 05-05-2019, 01:48 PM

This goes back to the weights posted by the OP. He was way under what he thought 5 slabs weighed. If the weight he initially quoted was what was on the label that his partner gave him..I think we know what happened.

hxcmilkshake · 05-05-2019, 01:49 PM

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PuddleMonkey · 05-05-2019, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cardsharkk

I keep thinking Customs had somthing to do with it

If customs opens something it's re-taped with their own branded tape and either stamped "INSPECTED" on the outside or a letter about the inspection found inside.

dapro · 05-05-2019, 02:22 PM

This is an interesting thread. Following to see what happens.

DoubleD · 05-05-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PuddleMonkey

If customs opens something it's re-taped with their own branded tape and either stamped "INSPECTED" on the outside or a letter about the inspection found inside.

This is true, every time I have ever had customs open up a package. They retape it up with a tape that says inspected and then I would had to pay customs and duties on that declared amount. I am kind of shocked that the customs did not stop and open it, because usually on higher valued items they get a nice chunk of taxes back.

callou2131 · 05-05-2019, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by callou2131

He has 111 Itrader at 100% this could get interesting...

Figured there was more to this. Is it the old reversal?

Bassplayah101 · 05-05-2019, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Thanks for posting DoubleD.

OP...

+1

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no10pin · 05-05-2019, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ecnosource

I weighed after the fact and the 5 slabs were roughly 96 grams.

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Originally Posted by ecnosource

My math might be wrong off the top of my head... there were 5 slabs in the box. All I can be sure of.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD

I just had another member tell me about this thread and first and foremost I do feel bad to the OP. But you guys need to put the pitchforks down and before calling anyone a scammer let's get the facts straight.
Myself and the OP worked on this trade for quite some time, and at one point I backed out because I did not feel I was ready to trade my card yet. If I wanted to scam him I would have just agreed to any trade and not gone through all the time for this. When the package was delivered it did feel light and when I shook it there was no movement that I could feel. I immediately contacted the OP and told him about it. I suggested FaceTime and I showed him the package all around and asked him if this is how it was shipped. He said that it looked good, so I opened it and the package just had lots of bubble wrap.
I asked him if he was the one that shipped it and he said no, it was a friend or partner that mailed it for him. I asked is this person someone he trusts and he said he trusted this person. At that point I told him to contact FedEx and get a claim going ASAP, and I would hang onto the box as evidence.

I was told a long time ago by my Dad the most important thing we have is our family name and to never dishonour it. In my 52 years on this earth I have followed that and passed it on to my kids. I owned my own card store 30 years ago and my reputation is spotless in this hobby. To all of the people calling me a scammer, when this is over and done with you will be owing me an apology. I have bought/sold/traded with many people on this forum and hope to continue doing this going forward.

The bolded things do not add up. At all.

Ball is in your court OP!

no10pin · 05-05-2019, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ecnosource

I weighed after the fact and the 5 slabs were roughly 96 grams.
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Just weighed a small box with some bubble wrap inside and it came out to about 105 grams.

66_Fiat · 05-05-2019, 03:42 PM

5 PSA cards in graded card sleeves. 211 grams. No packing material or package.

Shadowsonic2004 · 05-05-2019, 03:57 PM

Simple picture of the receipt showing the weight of when the package was sent would solve one end of the issue. If it's definitely light then it's clear what happened. His friend didn't send them and he isn't that good of a friend. If he honestly left out in the OP and his friend was the one who packaged and shipped that's really discouraging because that's big info to be left out. We can't be positive that's what happened though, that's just what doubled said.

wood minis · 05-05-2019, 04:03 PM

following post. Waiting on the scan of the Fedex receipt to see original weight as well.

TarjetasBéisbol · 05-05-2019, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ecnosource

I made a high end deal with a user on this forum a few weeks ago involving multiple cards including 93 jeter Sp 8.5,8,7 Trout update 10 and a stadium club 10 shipped through fedex. Watched tracking and when package delivered the box was “empty” except for the bubble wrap. User FaceTimed me opening the box which when opened was empty. Does anyone have any advice on a remedy to the situation? I have all serial numbers of cards and wondering if there is a way to report stolen or flag if ever resold.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleD

I just had another member tell me about this thread and first and foremost I do feel bad to the OP. But you guys need to put the pitchforks down and before calling anyone a scammer let's get the facts straight.
Myself and the OP worked on this trade for quite some time, and at one point I backed out because I did not feel I was ready to trade my card yet. If I wanted to scam him I would have just agreed to any trade and not gone through all the time for this. When the package was delivered it did feel light and when I shook it there was no movement that I could feel. I immediately contacted the OP and told him about it. I suggested FaceTime and I showed him the package all around and asked him if this is how it was shipped. He said that it looked good, so I opened it and the package just had lots of bubble wrap.
I asked him if he was the one that shipped it and he said no, it was a friend or partner that mailed it for him. I asked is this person someone he trusts and he said he trusted this person. At that point I told him to contact FedEx and get a claim going ASAP, and I would hang onto the box as evidence.

I was told a long time ago by my Dad the most important thing we have is our family name and to never dishonour it. In my 52 years on this earth I have followed that and passed it on to my kids. I owned my own card store 30 years ago and my reputation is spotless in this hobby. To all of the people calling me a scammer, when this is over and done with you will be owing me an apology. I have bought/sold/traded with many people on this forum and hope to continue doing this going forward.

WOW!! Talk about leaving a huge part of the story out of the OP!! Sorry DoubleD, I should have most definitely waited for your side of the story!

coachnip13 · 05-05-2019, 04:10 PM

What are the odds that we never see ecnosource again.

TarjetasBéisbol · 05-05-2019, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowsonic2004

Simple picture of the receipt showing the weight of when the package was sent would solve one end of the issue. If it's definitely light then it's clear what happened. His friend didn't send them and he isn't that good of a friend. If he honestly left out in the OP and his friend was the one who packaged and shipped that's really discouraging because that's big info to be left out. We can't be positive that's what happened though, that's just what doubled said.

Something tells me that there won’t be a receipt available and the guy who shipped it just gave the OP the tracking number. This is entirely on the OP at this point. If this so called friend is on these boards we need to know who it was.

SirTommyWinAlot · 05-05-2019, 04:12 PM

I'm really not sure who should be staring at a wall for a few years, OP, DoubleD, or the mysterious friend/partner.

ecnosource · 05-05-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Thanks for posting DoubleD.

OP...

I own a brick and mortar business that I have all my cards shipped to as well as ship all my cards out from that has an online business. We ship out all the time. I have my manager ship out every card for me.

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05-05-2019, 01:17 PM	#104
kidfan9 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,630	So awesome when folks jump to conclusions before having more facts. Hard to know exactly what happened here but that shouldn’t stop folks from pointing fingers. I have a feeling we are in for a couple more twists and turns before the dust settles. __________________ Ted Williams-Baseball's last .400 hitter

05-05-2019, 01:48 PM	#109
66_Fiat Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 3,168	This goes back to the weights posted by the OP. He was way under what he thought 5 slabs weighed. If the weight he initially quoted was what was on the label that his partner gave him..I think we know what happened. __________________ There is a difference between best hitter and best player. Paying nicely for 2013 and 2015 TTT Pujols "The Machine" patches!

05-05-2019, 02:22 PM	#112
dapro Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,891 Dragonshop007	This is an interesting thread. Following to see what happens. __________________ Collecting rookie and auto of HOFer's and future HOFer's. PC: Lebron James, Michael Jordan, Anthony Davis,Mike Trout, John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins https://www.flickr.com/photos/156455278@N06/collections/72157666436269628/

05-05-2019, 03:42 PM	#118
66_Fiat Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 3,168	5 PSA cards in graded card sleeves. 211 grams. No packing material or package. __________________ There is a difference between best hitter and best player. Paying nicely for 2013 and 2015 TTT Pujols "The Machine" patches!

05-05-2019, 01:11 PM	#102
ehp6737 Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 478	So someone else shipped/handled the cards for the OP? Wait, what? This info might have been a little important OP, dont you think?

05-05-2019, 01:14 PM	#103
ark8085 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ct Posts: 1,979 Redic211	The weight will answer a lot of questions op...

05-05-2019, 01:17 PM	#105
PDCCollectibles Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 5,077	Sounds very shady...

05-05-2019, 01:23 PM	#106
Thinking Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 2,973	OP has to have record of the shipment. So please share a screen shot or photo of the specifics. This whole thing is starting to turn around 180 degrees.

05-05-2019, 01:42 PM	#108
pete2345 Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Birthplace of Michael Jordan home of biggie smalls! Posts: 4,125	This is what seems to happen here, Everyone jumps to the side of the OP. Yes it's unfortunate but there are always more than one side of a story, Until all the facts are out there the benefit of doubt should be given.

05-05-2019, 01:49 PM	#110
hxcmilkshake Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Apopka FL Posts: 11,469 hxcmilkshake	Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

05-05-2019, 03:57 PM	#119
Shadowsonic2004 Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 3,591 Shadowsonic2004	Simple picture of the receipt showing the weight of when the package was sent would solve one end of the issue. If it's definitely light then it's clear what happened. His friend didn't send them and he isn't that good of a friend. If he honestly left out in the OP and his friend was the one who packaged and shipped that's really discouraging because that's big info to be left out. We can't be positive that's what happened though, that's just what doubled said.

05-05-2019, 04:03 PM	#120
wood minis Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 4,093	following post. Waiting on the scan of the Fedex receipt to see original weight as well.

05-05-2019, 04:10 PM	#122
coachnip13 Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Siesta Key, FL Posts: 9,647	What are the odds that we never see ecnosource again.

05-05-2019, 04:12 PM	#124
SirTommyWinAlot Banned Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Gillette Stadium/Foxboro Posts: 6,545	I'm really not sure who should be staring at a wall for a few years, OP, DoubleD, or the mysterious friend/partner.