Yordan Alvarez

[Chaysr20]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

130 PA is nothing. For me a shot would be at least 1000 PA. That would be 500 to get owned and 500 to see what the guy is made of.

1000 PA to trial a prospect on a WS caliber team is very unrealistic.

[Shanehw]

20190223_143301 by Shanehw, on Flickr

I continue to see the price climb on this.... My issue is always selling too soon

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by Chaysr20

1000 PA to trial a prospect on a WS caliber team is very unrealistic.

I'd say 150 PA is reasonable for a first stint, but they need to be consistent appearances.

[Chaysr20]

Originally Posted by calculusdork

I'd say 150 PA is reasonable for a first stint, but they need to be consistent appearances.

I agree, this should be enough opportunity, if consistent, to show you’re capable of making adjustments at the MLB level and begin to show glimpses of your potential.

[prospectorgems]

I pulled the trigger and bought a base raw last night. I have never bought high into a player before, hope it doesn't come back to bite me.

[Skippy]

Originally Posted by Shanehw

20190223_143301 by Shanehw, on Flickr

I continue to see the price climb on this.... My issue is always selling too soon

How much did you sell it for? I purchased 3 = $400, $450, and $610. I think the next one up will go for around $650.

[RAV2773]

Originally Posted by Skippy

How much did you sell it for? I purchased 3 = $400, $450, and $610. I think the next one up will go for around $650.

Raw sells for $400+ right now, so Gems will easily get to $700-$750 soon

[Shanehw]

Originally Posted by Skippy

How much did you sell it for? I purchased 3 = $400, $450, and $610. I think the next one up will go for around $650.

Still holding. Will probably hold until he gets the call.

[marterburn]

I have made a few experimental sales, but also mostly holding for callup (all 2019 for me)

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[HTown281]

I just got a true gem Green Auto Bowman - pretty excited to get it on Monday

[jhssketchcards]

Let’s say they bing up Alvarez and for grins they give him 30 games. That’s about 4 PA per on average. They DH him and play him in the OF to split time and give guys rest. Let’s also say in that span Houston has a 4-5 game lead in the AL West. In his 120 or so PA he strikes out or gets out a high percent of times in high leverage situations, costing the Astros opportunities to score and possibly lose. In the WAR era and stat driven world (the Astros are advanced in this), these numbers will go a long way in determining how much longer he will stay up. If he’s got a low exit velo, not barreling pitches, oppo everytime etc, it will cost him a shot with a WS contender.
The Astros aren’t rebuilding or having auditions for a platoon player. Their chemistry is solid. Bottom line is, and I hate to put it like this, they don’t NEED him or Tucker. It’s a luxury to have those caliber of prospects, but when you already have a historically great offense, how can you justify giving long term ABs to an unproven player versus giving ABs to a veteran who will be there come October? I’d love to see Alvarez. But they do not need him yet.


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[2balls1strike]

They can continue to suffer at DH instead. That seems like a smart idea lol. Injuries happen to every team, every season as well. He will be up there.

I'd rather see him shipped off to the Yankees in a trade :-)

[houston31911]

The pregame radio broadcast said he will probably be up in June, after the Super Two time is up.


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[RAV2773]

Originally Posted by houston31911

The pregame radio broadcast said he will probably be up in June, after the Super Two time is up.


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He should have about 30 HRs by then

[2balls1strike]

Originally Posted by houston31911

The pregame radio broadcast said he will probably be up in June, after the Super Two time is up.


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Seems logical. Thanks for passing that on.

[Peties Army]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

130 PA is nothing. For me a shot would be at least 1000 PA. That would be 500 to get owned and 500 to see what the guy is made of.

You can’t give a guy who was hitting like Reed 1000 ABs. That silly

So for 500 ABs(basically one season) you want him to get “owned” then another season to see what he is made of? Geez. You are really nice

[houston31911]

Originally Posted by RAV2773

He should have about 30 HRs by then

At least.


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[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by 2balls1strike

They can continue to suffer at DH instead. That seems like a smart idea lol. Injuries happen to every team, every season as well. He will be up there.

I'd rather see him shipped off to the Yankees in a trade :-)

Altuve is hurt. And they are rolling. Not because they called anyone up though but because they have a good bench.
They aren’t like Atlanta or Washington who have to bring prospects up to build a team. Or Toronto.
Had they not signed Brantley one of the guys would be up I feel. Personally I hope he does come up Nd they can get rid of Tyler White.


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[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Let’s say they bing up Alvarez and for grins they give him 30 games. That’s about 4 PA per on average. They DH him and play him in the OF to split time and give guys rest. Let’s also say in that span Houston has a 4-5 game lead in the AL West. In his 120 or so PA he strikes out or gets out a high percent of times in high leverage situations, costing the Astros opportunities to score and possibly lose. In the WAR era and stat driven world (the Astros are advanced in this), these numbers will go a long way in determining how much longer he will stay up. If he’s got a low exit velo, not barreling pitches, oppo everytime etc, it will cost him a shot with a WS contender.
The Astros aren’t rebuilding or having auditions for a platoon player. Their chemistry is solid. Bottom line is, and I hate to put it like this, they don’t NEED him or Tucker. It’s a luxury to have those caliber of prospects, but when you already have a historically great offense, how can you justify giving long term ABs to an unproven player versus giving ABs to a veteran who will be there come October? I’d love to see Alvarez. But they do not need him yet.


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The flip side of that is you've got a nice lead and a big talent advantage on the rest of the division. You can suffer for a few hundred PA now and let him get his feet wet because he may be the best option by October.

Originally Posted by Peties Army

You can’t give a guy who was hitting like Reed 1000 ABs. That silly

So for 500 ABs(basically one season) you want him to get “owned” then another season to see what he is made of? Geez. You are really nice

Yeah. I mean it can take 200 PA to settle in, so I'd wipe those out completely. Then a 300 PA sample you can have huge swings in performance. Then you've got to give him an offseason to work and improve and see how that takes. Obviously it depends on how bad the player performs. As it is Reed is literally two good weeks away from being an average MLB hitter. A hot month and he can all of a sudden look like a world beater. And he's hit pretty well (in a Gallo sense) in the minors. I mean, I understand why he's not getting a shot with the Astros, but let's not act like he had a legit shot.

[Bowman23]

I bought his gold 9.5/10 2 months ago what you guys think it worth now 3-4k?

[jhssketchcards]

Springer is having an MVP caliber year.
Brantley is having an All Star season.
Reddick is having a resurgent year hitting better than has since he’s been an Astro.

Remind me where Alvarez should play again and whose spot he should take ABs from? Tucker too?I can’t see them DH a rookie. Maybe they would.
As it stand Houston has one of the top OF in baseball. The GM and Hinch are not gonna take a chance on breaking that up no matter who is in the minors.

I’m a big believer that Houston could trade these guys for a SP or legit DH. Or they are holding strong with the belief that they may not have a guy like Reddick or Marisnick much longer.
Outside shot - they take a risk and bring up Alvarez and play him in situations where they give ABs to Kemp.


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[jeff24k]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

Springer is having an MVP caliber year.
Brantley is having an All Star season.
Reddick is having a resurgent year hitting better than has since he’s been an Astro.

Remind me where Alvarez should play again and whose spot he should take ABs from? Tucker too?I can’t see them DH a rookie. Maybe they would.
As it stand Houston has one of the top OF in baseball. The GM and Hinch are not gonna take a chance on breaking that up no matter who is in the minors.

I’m a big believer that Houston could trade these guys for a SP or legit DH. Or they are holding strong with the belief that they may not have a guy like Reddick or Marisnick much longer.
Outside shot - they take a risk and bring up Alvarez and play him in situations where they give ABs to Kemp.


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Does Yordan have any experience at 1B? Sort of surprised they aren't playing him any there right now at AAA. Gurriel is a replacement level 1B and Yordan would fit beautifully there.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by jeff24k

Does Yordan have any experience at 1B? Sort of surprised they aren't playing him any there right now at AAA. Gurriel is a replacement level 1B and Yordan would fit beautifully there.

Gurriel has proven his clutch hitting the past few years. Last year he was a 2-out RISP machine driving runs in. Also his post season in 2017 was key. He’s also a solid defender. Replacement is a strong word, especially since it would be for someone unproven. Now if Alvarez or Tucker could learn 1B (it’s possible) than Gurriel could DH at RH and one of those could DH as a LH while Yuli played 1st. I like it because it keeps Tyler White off the field and away from the plate.
On that note, White needs to stay away from a lot of plates.


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[Skippy]

Originally Posted by Bowman23

I bought his gold 9.5/10 2 months ago what you guys think it worth now 3-4k?

$3k sale 3 days ago! Nice pickup. Congrats!

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by jeff24k

Does Yordan have any experience at 1B? Sort of surprised they aren't playing him any there right now at AAA. Gurriel is a replacement level 1B and Yordan would fit beautifully there.

I've only ever seen him play 1b. I don't think he has enough speed/mobility to play LF on a regular basis.