Patrick Mahomes Prices

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

They are only “worth” that still because people don’t want to take the bath on them.. They are probably only truly worth 20-30% of the peaks if I had to guess.

You couldn’t pay me to pay 50% of what they were at peaks right now. But that’s just me.

So there's some wide-ranging conspiracy where everyone buying Luck cards is purposefully paying almost double their value to keep the market afloat?

[Rjk214]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

So there's some wide-ranging conspiracy where everyone buying Luck cards is purposefully paying almost double their value to keep the market afloat?

How many are really available? My guess is the market still “looks” strong Bc people don’t want to take the large losses on them. Making the more demand technically more available than supply available. So yes and no. The market appears much stronger than it probably truly is.

Not sure why anybody would even be paying that much for Luck. But there has to be suckers in the market for others to profit.

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

How many are really available? My guess is the market still “looks” strong Bc people don’t want to take the large losses on them. Making the more demand technically more available than supply available. So yes and no. The market appears much stronger than it probably truly is.

Not sure why anybody would even be paying that much for Luck. But there has to be suckers in the market for others to profit.

There's over 25 Contenders available right now on eBay, several for auction. About 20 have ended in thr last month for prices that are even above half of where they peaked. Just because you don't think Luck is a good buy, doesn't mean that others agree.

What's more likely: collectors still see Luck as a HOF talent (which he's proved this year), or there is some heavily orchestrated conspiracy by the owners and buyers of Luck cards to inflate his cards to double their value for some reason? Lol.

[Rjk214]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

There's over 25 Contenders available right now on eBay, several for auction. About 20 have ended in thr last month for prices that are even above half of where they peaked. Just because you don't think Luck is a good buy, doesn't mean that others agree.

What's more likely: collector's still see Luck as a HOF talent (which he's proved this year), or there is some heavily orchestrated conspiracy by the owners and buyers of Luck cards to inflate his cards to double their value for some reason? Lol.

The latter because at this stage of Lucks career he has a very limited shot at the HOF unless he goes lights out for 5.6.7 years straight without another large setback. Even if he does his prices will tank still. Lots of sellers still try to prop the market up. I can easily see it considering how deep people are into him. Praying they will snatch a fish to not take the full bath they should be taking.

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by Rjk214

The latter because at this stage of Lucks career he has a very limited shot at the HOF unless he goes lights out for 5.6.7 years straight without another large setback. Even if he does his prices will tank still. Lots of sellers still try to prop the market up. I can easily see it considering how deep people are into him. Praying they will snatch a fish to not take the full bath they should be taking.

You've heard of Occam's Razor right?

So besides Luck missing one year, what suddenly makes him not HOF material? QBs are killing it into their late 30s these days.

[SirTommyWinAlot]

congrats to the winner of this card. One of his best if you ask me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...p2047675.l2557

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

congrats to the winner of this card. One of his best if you ask me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...p2047675.l2557

Sweet card. Not a bad price for a PSA 10 /25 either

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by SirTommyWinAlot

congrats to the winner of this card. One of his best if you ask me:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-Panini...p2047675.l2557

Those are killer

[jasonm2121]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

Those are killer

agree, nice grab

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

So besides Luck missing one year, what suddenly makes him not HOF material? QBs are killing it into their late 30s these days.

Serious question - I don’t think he’s “suddenly not” HOF material, to me he never has been. What makes him Hall of Fame material right now? Remove the hype and draft position and he’s nowhere near the Hall of Fame.

That’s not to say he couldn’t get there... but I don’t see a HOF path so far.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

You've heard of Occam's Razor right?

So besides Luck missing one year, what suddenly makes him not HOF material? QBs are killing it into their late 30s these days.

Yeah it's one of my favorite John Petrucci solos

[Bl3rf]

Prices are just insane. Literally a car for a card. Piece of cardboard and a cut up jersey worth more than a car. Lol... I love this hobby

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[hanstess]

Unfortunately the only one I have in my stash is the Mahomes/Hunt dual Pen Pal Auto. Held on to it too long...ugh

[Bl3rf]

Very unfortunate.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

You've heard of Occam's Razor right?

So besides Luck missing one year, what suddenly makes him not HOF material? QBs are killing it into their late 30s these days.

That's tough.


Stafford is surprisingly only 1 year older than Luck. But has over 12k more yards at this point in their careers, and much further ahead in most counting stats.

Remove the names and draft pedigrees.

Taking into account a hypothetical situation where neither ends their career with a superbowl and plays another 5-7 years injury free, are you under the impression that Stafford is a HOF? Because odds are Luck will still lag behind him in stats.

I'm not entire sure about that. Especially with 4k passing yards quickly becoming the norm in a heavily offensive friendly era.

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's tough.


Stafford is surprisingly only 1 year older than Luck. But has over 12k more yards at this point in their careers, and much further ahead in most counting stats.

Remove the names and draft pedigrees.

Taking into account a hypothetical situation where neither ends their career with a superbowl and plays another 5-7 years injury free, are you under the impression that Stafford is a HOF? Because odds are Luck will still lag behind him in stats.

I'm not entire sure about that. Especially with 4k passing yards quickly becoming the norm in a heavily offensive friendly era.

Difference there is that Stafford is viewed as a perennial loser. Luck has been to the playoffs in 3 of his 5 seasons (not including this year) and took the Colts to the AFC Championship game in one of them. There is a huge disparity in career winning percentages as well.

Also worth mentioning Stafford is a 1X Pro Bowler in a 10 year career. Luck will most likely become a Pro Bowler for the 4th time in his 6 year career.

[cardsharkk]

Wow $22,100 for a National Treasure RPA /5 - He's on pace for OVER 5,000 yards passing, and 50 tds... this is history on so many levels

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PATRICK-MAH....m43663.l10137

I was most impressed with how he handled himself vs the Ravens D... A kid with barerly 12 games under his belt against one of the best Ds for any QB, and he throws for 377, and 2 tds and wins the game.

[Bl3rf]

Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Wow $22,100 for a National Treasure RPA /5 - He's on pace for OVER 5,000 yards passing, and 50 tds... this is history on so many levels

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PATRICK-MAH....m43663.l10137

Lol... that's all I can say. People apparently have stupid money.

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[SirTommyWinAlot]

Originally Posted by cardsharkk

Wow $22,100 for a National Treasure RPA /5 - He's on pace for OVER 5,000 yards passing, and 50 tds... this is history on so many levels

https://www.ebay.com/itm/PATRICK-MAH....m43663.l10137

I was most impressed with how he handled himself vs the Ravens D... A kid with barerly 12 games under his belt against one of the best Ds for any QB, and he throws for 377, and 2 tds and wins the game.

I thought he was the MVP before that game. That game seals the deal imo.

[majestik101]

I still think Brees is winning the MVP.

And back to the topic, people are stupid with money.

[jppicks]

Originally Posted by majestik101

I still think Brees is winning the MVP.

And back to the topic, people are stupid with money.

There is still 3 games left so who knows. I thought two weeks ago Brees had taken the lead I think now Mahomes is back in the lead. Lets let the last 3 games play out.

[Onepocketj]

Damn. I thought all last year that he was going to put up big numbers this year. Just seemed to be set up perfectly for him. Unfortunately I live in Houston so I went mostly with Watson. Still haven't given up on those Watson cards though.

[Bowman1951]

The last three games may not even be important to Mahomes if they lock up the #1 overall AFC seed.

The Chargers play the Chiefs this Thursday so it could happen as soon as three days from now.

[JWBlue]

People are a little stupid with money. At the same time there are people with money to burn.

[Bowman1951]

If you haven't seen this yet, it is certifiably incredible, Mahomes no-look pass from 12/9.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comment..._no_look_pass/