So sick of the Thunder

[hairyangryfella]

17 point lead turns into a loss to the NETS...
Maybe they were burnt out from the previous game and being in Mexico, but c'mon. The NETS...
Melo is shooting so bad this year, yikes. Never wanted him on this team but at least thought he'd be better...

[jcardstore]

Been saying it since day 1, no team with Melo will ever win a title

[crose]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Been saying it since day 1, no team with Melo will ever win a title

Well said

[hairyangryfella]

Lol, Roberson streaks to the three point line, absolutely wide open, and...
...no thought of a pass to him, and no concern by the defender.

Thunder defending like rubbish so far today, and turning the ball over a lot already.

[hairyangryfella]

Omg Kyle Singler sucks.

[Ferg1945]

so far.. 48 FG attempts... 24 combined from Westbrook (30%) and Melo (36%)

I'm guessing they wish they had the trash they traded to the Pacers.

[hairyangryfella]

Hell of a comeback so far. Westbrook stopped attempting dumb shots and drove with energy, and Adams has been a handful down low. Hopefully they keep it going for the final 15 min.

[hairyangryfella]

Even the commentators are questioning why Westbrook keeps shooting...

[hairyangryfella]

Gee they made that tough, and should have lost on free throws at the end there.
Melo really sucks.
Roberson is utterly pointless on offense.
Westbrook needs to take far fewer jumpshots.
Singler needs to be cut...

[whyn0twynne]

Crazy game! Who was Russ telling to go home?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Westbrook needs to take far fewer jumpshots.

RW is the only reason that this squad is even remotely competitive. Was abundantly clear last year, and it remains the same case this season.

PG, for the most part, has been a Lonzo case with his shooting performances, and Melo continues to be what he's always been: a no defense playing chucker.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

RW is the only reason that this squad is even remotely competitive. Was abundantly clear last year, and it remains the same case this season.

Yes, he brought them back when he was aggressive. But when he tried jump shots he missed almost every single time. Wasn't critical of his game other than his shooting, and he went 7/29. 29!
Had Abrines not made two threes in OT they were smoked. Westbrook and Melo taking the shots were just terrible.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Yes, he brought them back when he was aggressive. But when he tried jump shots he missed almost every single time. Wasn't critical of his game other than his shooting, and he went 7/29. 29!

That's kind of something you just have to accept about RW. It's his nature and his game and will never change. He'll shoot 30 percent but still win you the game on a last second drive or dish.

But you can never question his will to win or heart. It's bigger than probably 98 percent of the league.

[realreodeal]

14 assists for Westbrook, 4 assists for Felton and no other Thunder players with even a single assist. That is absurd.

[tjforce]

I just don't get how a team could look so good against GS, then so bad against the rest of the competition.

It's not like GS wasn't amped up for the game. They came out fired up and got mopped up. Thunder were firing on all cylinders that night.

Follow that up with some bad losses and an ugly win yesterday, although I suppose a road win is a road win so it's hard to knock it.

There needs to be a few more guys that can step up and make some plays. Abrines actually did yesterday and they don't win that game without him. Singler/Grant/Huestis need to start producing something on offense.

[spurs50fan]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's kind of something you just have to accept about RW. It's his nature and his game and will never change. He'll shoot 30 percent but still win you the game on a last second drive or dish.

But you can never question his will to win or heart. It's bigger than probably 98 percent of the league.

This is something I always question regardless of the player but how much do you believe shooting 30% adds to the game being tight at the end? Seems like the bad shooting keeps teams in the game where 1 or 2 better decisions would void the need for last second heroics

[regularp]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's kind of something you just have to accept about RW. It's his nature and his game and will never change. He'll shoot 30 percent but still win you the game on a last second drive or dish.

But you can never question his will to win or heart. It's bigger than probably 98 percent of the league.

This is what people said about Iverson. Speaking of which, Westbrook is Iverson 2.0.

History is going to be very kind with Durant's decision to leave.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by spurs50fan

This is something I always question regardless of the player but how much do you believe shooting 30% adds to the game being tight at the end? Seems like the bad shooting keeps teams in the game where 1 or 2 better decisions would void the need for last second heroics

The problem is, he's consistently surrounded by players that shoot as bad or worse than him when given the opportunities.

So it's a pick your poison type scenario.

Oladipo wasn't worth a lick, and thus far Melo and PG are about as inconsistent as can be.

The only real time it worked out was when Durant was with the squad, and even then they both took turns being in choke mode in the postseason.

I certainly don't think it's a scenario where you can simply read from the stat sheet and point to Westbrook's shooting woes being the primary reason for the outcome of the game. Who else will step up if he doesn't?

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I certainly don't think it's a scenario where you can simply read from the stat sheet and point to Westbrook's shooting woes being the primary reason for the outcome of the game. Who else will step up if he doesn't?

Always easy to fall back on that isn't it... Yes, much of the Thunder roster is mud (Singler should not even be in the league), but how can they have a chance when he's taking early jumpers and not passing to them?

I actually don't mind him taking the shots though, but only ones he's actually good at - like drives. Of his 7 made FGs yesterday, I'd imagine all bar one were layups. He cannot jumpshoot well at all, yet he chucks over 20 shots?!

Look, he got them back into the game and is pretty much the reason they won, however, he constantly proves his low bball IQ with the horrible shots he takes, and it's so damn frustrating.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Always easy to fall back on that isn't it... Yes, much of the Thunder roster is mud (Singler should not even be in the league), but how can they have a chance when he's taking early jumpers and not passing to them?

I actually don't mind him taking the shots though, but only ones he's actually good at - like drives. Of his 7 made FGs yesterday, I'd imagine all bar one were layups. He cannot jumpshoot well at all, yet he chucks over 20 shots?!

Look, he got them back into the game and is pretty much the reason they won, however, he constantly proves his low bball IQ with the horrible shots he takes, and it's so damn frustrating.

You still didn't name a player though.

Seriously. Name one. George and Melo both chuck clunkers. Who else?


Adams? Roberson? lol. Come on now. It's the same old story with the Thunder the past 2 seasons.

Outside of WB, there is literally no other consistent scoring threat. And that's what continues to hold them back.


The fact that he even managed to average 10+ assists a night with the level of trash surrounding him last year is seriously mind blowing if you stop and think about it.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

You still didn't name a player though.

Seriously. Name one. George and Melo both chuck clunkers. Who else?


Adams? Roberson? lol. Come on now. It's the same old story with the Thunder the past 2 seasons.

Outside of WB, there is literally no other consistent scoring threat. And that's what continues to hold them back.


The fact that he even managed to average 10+ assists a night with the level of trash surrounding him last year is seriously mind blowing if you stop and think about it.

Paul George last year shot 46% from the field and 39% from 3, let's not act like he's nothing here. Westbrook makes those around him worse, I'd hardly blame anyone around him at this point. I think Russ is the problem, he doesn't make guys better. (example: Oladipo, Victor)

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Paul George last year shot 46% from the field and 39% from 3, let's not act like he's nothing here. Westbrook makes those around him worse, I'd hardly blame anyone around him at this point. I think Russ is the problem, he doesn't make guys better. (example: Oladipo, Victor)

I never said PG was a scrub. It's obvious he's a very good player. But this year he's been about as inconsistent as can be.


And the Westbrook makes everyone worse argument is completely nullified by Durant.

Last time I checked, he had an MVP and multiple scoring titles under WB's tenure.

Too bad they were just as equally unreliable in the postseason when it mattered the most.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

You still didn't name a player though.

Seriously. Name one. George and Melo both chuck clunkers. Who else?


Adams? Roberson? lol. Come on now. It's the same old story with the Thunder the past 2 seasons.

Outside of WB, there is literally no other consistent scoring threat. And that's what continues to hold them back.


The fact that he even managed to average 10+ assists a night with the level of trash surrounding him last year is seriously mind blowing if you stop and think about it.

Ok, well there's the guy who saved them in OT, Abrines. And Adams has been doing pretty well lately...
When you get players more involved (also a coaching issue) they might actually get better and be more useful...

I still think Roberson is worthless on offense and Singler should be cut...

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Ok, well there's the guy who saved them in OT, Abrines. And Adams has been doing pretty well lately...
When you get players more involved (also a coaching issue) they might actually get better and be more useful...

I still think Roberson is worthless on offense and Singler should be cut...

Agreed on Roberson. But he's pretty much just in there solely for his defensive prowess.

Abrines is a bench player. 3's only, at that.


Couldn't tell you how many wide open layups/dunks I witnessed Ola brick last year. And wide open jumpers. Even when he was starting alongside the second unit when WB was on the bench. It was painful to watch him attempt to do his best impression of an NBA player for most of last season.


I'd even go so far to argue that Westbrook opened the doors for Adams and Roberson's lucrative careers to flourish.

I'm not saying Adams is a scrub, but he's severely limited offensively to put backs and baby hooks inside 5 feet.

Westbrook has created ample opportunities for both of those guys on the offensive end. Perhaps a lot better opportunities than they would have gotten on other squads, all things considered.

[drobfan8]

I think we're starting to see how Westbrook is just a volume scoring stat stuffer. He certainly has killer instinct but lacks the decision making to control the game.

PG was pretty damn good just last season. Melo is still an elite 3 point and jump shot shooter. It's no coincidence they're playing worse and Kanter, Dipo and Sabonis are all playing much better.

Too much usage for Westbrook. AI is an interesting comparison, I always found him severely overrated also.

Why do we devalue guys like Adams just because they don't have range? Is Baynes better just because he can stick the jump shot?

Adams has been great for the Thunder over the years.