Boogie Cousins

[kaushikentucky]

Originally Posted by kdailey4315

They both average almost identical stats on different teams where they are the center point of the offense. How on Earth can you expect them to average the same thing on the same team?

I don't think you're getting it, this isn't Kevin Love coming to the Cavs....they have no one else.

Between Boogie and AD there will be 35 shots a game guaranteed....you can book it! And don't you think if one guy goes for 30 points in a night, the other won't get at least 18-20....be realistic, both of these guys score and there's no one else on this team other than Holiday that can do it.

Boogie and AD are constantly watched and double teamed, if you do that to Boogie there will be an open man or AD will take it to the rack. When they get a couple PURE shooters, Boogie will pass out from the paint to the 3 point line and if they DON'T DOUBLE BOOGIE.......

Good Luck!

[OMG]

I watched a few vids on this trade and Supposedly Cousins is unlikely to sign an extension with any team if traded before the deadline , so the Pelicans are taking a big Gamble on this deal . Is Cousins a free agent this summer ?

[cp3fan]

Originally Posted by Steveefranchise

Is this recent beef? I always remember Cuz and the Pizza guy getting along and having good chemistry

No this beef is from when they played together. If I remember correctly, cousins felt Thomas was a ball hog and didn't like the way he played

[kdailey4315]

Originally Posted by kaushikentucky

I don't think you're getting it, this isn't Kevin Love coming to the Cavs....they have no one else.

Between Boogie and AD there will be 35 shots a game guaranteed....you can book it!

Boogie and AD are constantly watched and double teamed, if you do that to Boogie there will be an open man or AD will take it to the rack. When they get a couple PURE shooters, Boogie will pass out from the paint to the 3 point line and if they DON'T DOUBLE BOOGIE.......

Good Luck!

I would 100% agree with you but it doesn't work that way with a 4/5. They're essentially the same player give or take minute differences. Their game doesn't create space where teams have to choose who to guard. A team defending them can clog up the paint and effectively shut them both down. With this trade NO has no inside outside game anymore. it's all inside. They can easily be neutralized with a solid zone defense.

[cp3fan]

Originally Posted by OMG

I watched a few vids on this trade and Supposedly Cousins is unlikely to sign an extension with any team if traded before the deadline , so the Pelicans are taking a big Gamble on this deal . Is Cousins a free agent this summer ?

Might be a big gamble but this is a move the pelicans couldn't turn down. They gave up very little of value for cousins and now have the opportunity to prove he should resign with them when he enters free agency this summer. I see it as a lower risk high reward for NO.

[Steveefranchise]

This is actually even worse for the Kings than originally reported....per Sauce Castillo

Sixers Acquire Three Players From Sacramento | Philadelphia 76ers

76ers can swap firsts this year and have 2019 Kings first rounder unprotected. There is no way this front office could be more incompetent.

[kaushikentucky]

Originally Posted by kdailey4315

I would 100% agree with you but it doesn't work that way with a 4/5. They're essentially the same player give or take minute differences. Their game doesn't create space where teams have to choose who to guard. A team defending them can clog up the paint and effectively shut them both down. With this trade NO has no inside outside game anymore. it's all inside. They can easily be neutralized with a solid zone defense.

I see your point, and you are right that it could clog up the paint, but did you know Cousins takes more 3's than Lebron, and AD usually plays outside the paint?

I see what you're saying, but AD is extremely versatile and Boogie can stretch the court. Imagine this, Jrue Holiday runs on fastbreak, Boogie camps in the corner for a 3 and AD is in the paint, pick your poison.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by cp3fan

Might be a big gamble but this is a move the pelicans couldn't turn down. They gave up very little of value for cousins and now have the opportunity to prove he should resign with them when he enters free agency this summer. I see it as a lower risk high reward for NO.

This is why I like the deal.

Pelicans are some great years from Davis. This might be a long shot to work, but it's better than what they had going in.

[tingyangs6]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

So it appears the Kings are hinging their entire future on the upcoming draft and their ability to select a monster. Tanked 2nd half of the year incoming as well...looks like they might have 2 lottery picks in the waiting.

Yeah, they are going to draft two Ben Mclemores like you all said earlier. They struck out so much over the years when it came to drafting; Thomas Robinson over Lillard, Tyreke Evans over Steph Curry, Fredette over Klay Thompson and Leonard, McLemore over McCollum and Giannis, Stauskas over Lavine, Willie Stein over Devin Booker, drafted Marquise Chriss and traded him for a d-league player, and let Isiah Thomas walk. Demarcus Cousins was the only draft pick that they got lucky with and they sold low on him. I remember the Lakers were willing to part with Russell and Randle for him and the Kings said no. I'm a long time Kings fan and now I know how it feels to be a Cleveland Browns fan. Pathetic front office.

[cp3fan]

Originally Posted by tjforce

This is why I like the deal.

Pelicans are some great years from Davis. This might be a long shot to work, but it's better than what they had going in.

Agreed 100%. I don't see how it would've made any sense to pass on this and remain status quo because status quo was getting them nowhere.

[tingyangs6]

"There are no such things as bad teams... Only bad front offices"

- Charles Barkley

[exoticprince]

Good gamble by the pelicans. Worth all the risk 1000%. Crazy move by the kings. They could have gotten a lot more in return hard to believe no team was willing to risk a lot more to get cousins. Pelicans future suddenly looks a lot brighter

[regularp]

Some of the comments in here read like they're straight out of bizarro world. Why on earth would the Pels NOT do this trade? They basically gave up Buddy Hield, a first and a second for DeMarcus Cousins. That is a ridiculous fleecing by New Orleans.

Even in a worst case scenario where Cousins and Davis don't mesh at all, they could still trade Cousins this summer or before the deadline next season and still get a better haul than they gave up for him (I see people saying he's a free agent this summer; he's not).

The biggest thing nobody has brought up in here is what the hell is Danny Ainge doing? He could have bested this poo-poo platter and still had plenty leftover to go after Jimmy Butler or Paul George. That guy is overrated as hell and seemingly asleep at the wheel.

[dasiegel]

I think this is aa good gamble for the Pelicans. They suck. So if Boogie bolts they have money and over time they will just have to delay the rebuild. But if it works out, a market that will rarely get a Boogie level talent will have created a young twin towers for years to come. Picks are never guaranteed and Tyreke is rarely healthy.

I also don't know why people are so quick to think Cousins is going back to Sac. If they start winning and make the playoffs and he is playing with a UK star and there is talk of Coach Cal coming on top of seeing what the playoffs feel like he might just realize what a disaster he was in. Forest from trees.

[rman112]

Edit - nevermind

[Cal27]

Wow, I did not see that coming. Perhaps the making of the best twin tower in the history. Now just add Russell Westbrook and you got yourself a super team!

[BBallCT]

Super front court with Jrue around, incredible

[JasonM32]

Originally Posted by goehring9

He would look so much better in a Lakers uniform

Please no. Dude is a cancer and he would never listen to Luke. I also wouldn't want him influencing our young players in the locker room.

He's a great talent but not a guy I'd want under any circumstances.

[Wolves4Life]

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Source w/reasons Pels got Boogie: Cs (too focussed on getting Butler), Orl (could've had him, balked) & Phx (Sac didn't want BKnight).

[blackandgold]

Originally Posted by regularp

Some of the comments in here read like they're straight out of bizarro world. Why on earth would the Pels NOT do this trade? They basically gave up Buddy Hield, a first and a second for DeMarcus Cousins. That is a ridiculous fleecing by New Orleans.

Even in a worst case scenario where Cousins and Davis don't mesh at all, they could still trade Cousins this summer or before the deadline next season and still get a better haul than they gave up for him (I see people saying he's a free agent this summer; he's not).

The biggest thing nobody has brought up in here is what the hell is Danny Ainge doing? He could have bested this poo-poo platter and still had plenty leftover to go after Jimmy Butler or Paul George. That guy is overrated as hell and seemingly asleep at the wheel.

Agree 100% on your comments I'm sure the Pelicans hedged their bets on Cousins resigning also

[hanstess]

Hopefully Cousins comes back and signs with the Kings in the off-season. I don't like this deal at all...

[tennelson55]

Originally Posted by Ottomatic

No matter what you think of Cousins, the idea of watching him and AD is pretty exciting. They could bang the Warriors up in the 1st round.

get a grip man. look at the defensive matchups in the series. you've got mcgee vs cousins and durant vs davis. then you've got klay, steph, draymond and the bench vs holiday and trashhhh.
it won't be close, but at least it makes it watchable. i'm more interested in draymond vs cousins - the battle of emotions.

[volblorx8634]

Man, being a Kings fan gets harder and harder

[yiguiri2002]

What a move by the Pels. Giving up Hield and their first for Cousins? INSANE.

There's a little fact about Cousins that people forget: He's nowhere as whiny and crazy when he's winning. He was doing OK during the Malone era...and they fired him. And he's never, ever played with someone close as good as AD in his NBA career.

Also, the biggest problem the Pels had was that the team was basically AD, Holiday, Evans and a bunch of role players. With AD and Boogie (and their usage rate), the fact that they're surrounded by just role players can actually be good and not bad!

Holiday/AD/Boogie with other role players (Moore, Frazier, Jones) can work. Even if they don't make the playoffs, I can see the team ending the year close to .500 and Boogie resigning.

Also, Kings FO is making Bulls FO look decent. Stop it.

[Wolves4Life]

Originally Posted by hanstess

Hopefully Cousins comes back and signs with the Kings in the off-season. I don't like this deal at all...

Why would he go back to a team that lied to him?