Avoided investing in Kris Bryant because of his age

[StlScott]

<------ hopes this has at least the smallest chances of being legally binding lol...

At tad more serious... Griffey Jr did it twice in a row with 56 while playing with Seattle. The two seasons were bookended with 48 and 49 home runs. Those seasons were his age 26-29 seasons. Seattle was not a great place to hit. The ball is probably more lively now.We will know in about three years if this can happen or not. I assume people wont accuse Jr of being roided.

[k13]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Ummm, ROIDS?

Umm, he's not as good as those guys...

Roids won't help you when you miss so much...

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by StlScott

<------ hopes this has at least the smallest chances of being legally binding lol...

At tad more serious... Griffey Jr did it twice in a row with 56 while playing with Seattle. The two seasons were bookended with 48 and 49 home runs. Those seasons were his age 26-29 seasons. Seattle was not a great place to hit. The ball is probably more lively now.We will know in about three years if this can happen or not. I assume people wont accuse Jr of being roided.

Look at the year Trumbo is having at age 30. He has 38 with tonight's HR, and his previous high was 34. If Bryant stays healthy, it wouldn't surprise me to see him eclipse 500 for his career or at least come close.

[hazenuts]

Another HR tonight, pretty crazy that he is now a .300 with that power -

.300BA 33HR 85RBI

[ThoseBackPages]

KB > Mookie

[gonygo]

Stay away and don't buy his cards. He's getting older as we speak. Lmao.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

So..... good idea to not get caught in the Bryant wave?

Not at todays prices. Someone like bryant is best to collect after he retires and the hype train has moved on. His stuff is priced at hof levels now. He will have so many cards and autos after he retires you would have to be a mlb player to collect it all. If you want his stuff now then pay the piper. With a little patience you may be rewarded.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

I was ready to throw down on Bryant at the beginning of last year, but held back because of his age. Now that his prices have gone up, of course I regret not buying in early and making a little bit of $$.

I'm more curious about long term value though.... When he's 32 and just hit 300 HRs, are we looking at bigger prices than we are now?

You will be looking at drastically lower prices. Dude better hit 400+ and drive in 1500 to substantiate these crazy prices. I like the guy but 5000 for a bryant game used bat? I can buy 5 chipper jones game used bats for that.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

David Ortiz had only 38 home runs when the season ended and he was 25.
Frank Thomas had 104 home runs when the season ended and he was 25.

Just a couple of quick lookups to find these guys who are in the 500-HR club.

And frank thomas cards sell for pennies on the dollar compared to what they used to also. Once a player leaves the limelight their cards take a hit. Especially this modern mass produced nonsense.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

I think 500 is possible... if he can stay healthy.

But to put up Griffey, Mays, Ruth, Aaron type numbers... you have to start before age 24

But in his prime 26-29... if he averages 48... and has 43 at 25 and 38 at 30... that puts him at 335... 30 for age 31 and 32... and he has 396 at age 32... 500 is well within reach... and 600 isnt too far away.

600? Keep on dreaming...

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by CoolG

Pujols is a broken down slugger still going to drive in 120 Rbi's at 36

Correct. And pujols stuff costs a fraction of what it used to. The hype train is currently parked outside wrigley field.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by bobthewondercat

No one is a good long term hold. I don't think KB has much short term room to gain at this point either, but maybe if he tanks next year there will be a window to pickup and flip in the next Cubs postseason berth.

Probably the best post in this thread. Once a modern player leaves the limelight their cards will take a hit with very very few exceptions. Buy early before the hype train arrives or wait. That is if you intend to make a buck or break even. Only a hof career will keep bryant cards at current prices and even that is a stretch.

[CoolG]

Originally Posted by elsoblanco

Correct. And pujols stuff costs a fraction of what it used to. The hype train is currently parked outside wrigley field.

HUH?
Who was talking value? I was making a statement he could reach 500 hrs and using Pujols as an example at his age. Pay attention to the posts if you're gonna quote something. It had nothing to do about value, as it was merely what was possible for Bryant stat wise.

Thx

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by rseve43

Skipping on a budding superstar due to age is silly.

If it's a 25 year old prospect in AAA putting up average numbers....that's different. Skip that guy. Kris Bryant, on the other hand, is proving he's one of the best players in Major League Baseball; and a reasonable argument can be made that (barring injury or other unforeseen circumstances) he'll end his career with 500+ homers, which would all but guarantee a spot in the HOF.

The key to remember is that you don't have to be the single greatest player of all time for your baseball cards to gain value over time. If Bryant continues to be one of the top 5-10 players in MLB, his cards will continue to rise.

Disagree. Especially when bryant will have 20,000 or more cards by the time he retires. There will be so many bryant case hits, short prints, autos, refractors the market will be flooded with them. His cards may rise if he wins a ws, but they will soften when he retires. Thats how this game works. All time greats like mantle, ruth, cobb, Jordan= different story. There are no all time greats in modern baseball. Mike Trout has already struck out more times than the great Joe Dimaggio did for his entire career. Kershaw? We can check back on him when he wins 200 games.

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by elsoblanco

And frank thomas cards sell for pennies on the dollar compared to what they used to also. Once a player leaves the limelight their cards take a hit. Especially this modern mass produced nonsense.

My response was to the concern of him having only 105 HR's after next year, not about the card values. I made no mention of card values in any of my posts in this thread. Thanks for the useless info.

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by CoolG

HUH?
Who was talking value? I was making a statement he could reach 500 hrs and using Pujols as an example at his age. Pay attention to post had nothing about perceived value .
Thx

He did the same thing with one of my posts.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by CoolG

HUH?
Who was talking value? I was making a statement he could reach 500 hrs and using Pujols as an example at his age. Pay attention to the poster you're gonna quote it. It had nothing to do about value merely what was possible stat wise.
Thx

We are talking investment potential of bryant cards.

[elsoblanco]

Originally Posted by Big35Hurt

My response was to the concern of him having only 105 HR's after next year, not about the card values. I made no mention of card values in any of my posts in this thread. Thanks for the useless info.

Im talking investment potential of bryant cards which was the original topic of this thread.

[Big35Hurt]

Originally Posted by elsoblanco

Im talking investment potential of bryant cards which was the original topic of this thread.

Nevermind...sorry it was difficult for you to understand the context of what a couple of us were saying. Carry on.

[HitandRun24]

Bryant's got a base 2013 chrome up to 645 on eBay prices are back

[CoolG]

Originally Posted by elsoblanco

We are talking investment potential of bryant cards.

Again read post #113
No need to respond
Thx

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by gonygo

Stay away and don't buy his cards. He's getting older as we speak. Lmao.

How are your Ryan Howard and Prince Fielder cards holding up?

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by HitandRun24

Bryant's got a base 2013 chrome up to 645 on eBay prices are back

Kb is…how the young kids say-In The ZONE

[gonygo]

Originally Posted by deemsterz33

I'm still hurting from investing in players like Ryan Howard and Prince Fielder.

Fixed it for you..Sorry to hear bud..Hopefully things will pick up for you. I wouldn't buy any Bryant cards if i were you. However, since you started this thread, Bryant has been on fire…

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by gonygo

Fixed it for you..Sorry to hear bud..Hopefully things will pick up for you. I wouldn't buy any Bryant cards if i were you. However, since you started this thread, Bryant has been on fire…

Nice try. Didn't buy into those guys either. If you're over 25 and have 60-70 career HRs, I'm gonna pass.

For 1/4 the price I'm ok buying up Mookie Betts stuff. He's in just as big of a market, and will have surpassed Bryant in almost every statistical career category by the time he reaches Bryant's age.