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Old 07-15-2021, 04:40 PM   #1201
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no issues at all. maybe your credit card/paypal?
Not sure...My account was flagged for suspicious activity right when I placed 3 separate orders at 8 am. But got one to go through after. It is a sign I should stop buying packs

edit: Finally entered my credit card through paypal and got 4 more to go through
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:47 PM   #1202
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Silver Prizm packs are still available?
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Old 07-15-2021, 05:53 PM   #1203
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Silver Prizm packs are still available?
Yup looks like it
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:03 PM   #1204
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Yup looks like it
Crazy, this thing may just die before it even gets started.
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:05 PM   #1205
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Crazy, this thing may just die before it even gets started.

Devils advocate - Topshot had 3-4 months where it was very quiet/small before it exploded. People had stuff they forgot about in their accounts from November 2020 that became 5 figures


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Old 07-15-2021, 06:06 PM   #1206
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Crazy, this thing may just die before it even gets started.
Pack price is way too high for a 300 player checklist.
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:07 PM   #1207
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That'd be great.

I have 30 mostly worthless "cards" and 10 HV packs that I'll hope shoot to the moon. Diamond hands...
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Old 07-15-2021, 06:09 PM   #1208
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Yup looks like it

Guess it’s not really catching on with physical card collectors, Top Shot collectors or the NFT buyers who are into crypto. Or is it something else? It does seem kind of blah in its current state.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:07 PM   #1209
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Pack prices are too high for what you get; at least at current prices for sales
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:08 PM   #1210
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Guess it’s not really catching on with physical card collectors, Top Shot collectors or the NFT buyers who are into crypto. Or is it something else? It does seem kind of blah in its current state.
Yup...I thought for sure there was gonna be more demand...especially how crazy high the green and red test pack cards were going..but right now i just dont see the upside. Im not saying all packs should double or more your money..but i just dont see the value in these right now. I mean for $15 a pack it seems like the absolute best you can do is get a $50 or so card with lebron (sans low serials for certain stars)..but a saw a lot of high voltage cards selling for 10 or less and the majority of the base is worthless. I thought challenges would provide some extra value but it really doesnt seem like it is in my opinion outside of the lebron challenge.
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Old 07-15-2021, 07:19 PM   #1211
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Yeah I think the pack price is a bit too high, but I'd also like to see a little more fun in the packs. 2 base and 1 silver is okay, but with no chance to get something crazy it seems a little bleh. If it was normally 2 base and 1 silver but rarely you could get a /50 or less it would at least more fun to open.
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Old 07-15-2021, 08:44 PM   #1212
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they could roll out some more challenges or maybe some more creative challenges to get more activity; the lebron is good but really there aren't a ton of people that will get all the cards needed so leaves all the other cards stagnant; although know it is early i've tried to get involved some but there is going to be millions of nft's out there eventually with no real interest in them without creating some fun
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Old 07-15-2021, 10:44 PM   #1213
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5 pack break

Base

Bojan Bogdanovic
Magic Johnson
Jimmy Butler
Ivica Zubac
Luke Kennard
Dennis Rodman
Aaron Holiday
Al Horford
Tyrell Terry (RC)
Avery Bradley

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Onyeka Okongwu (RC)
Jaylen Brown
Jarrett Culver
Cam Reddish
Anfernee Hardaway
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Old 07-16-2021, 12:02 AM   #1214
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Crazy, this thing may just die before it even gets started.
Silver packs just aren’t a good deal, huge risk to gamble on them. The insert sets sell out within 5min (though High Voltage also struggling).

This platform needs the announced changes in place first to really take off.
IMO time to buy right now. LeBron James Prizm Debut /1799 can be had for 25 bucks.

These are the announced changes that haven’t been executed yet:

In the coming weeks, users will also notice additional enhancements, including . . .

A revamped Marketplace
Combining the Auction and Public Gallery sections to form one big Marketplace.

Enhanced Search and Filter functionality of the new Marketplace.
A new Sales section on the Marketplace which will give users the ability to filter for specific cards and look up the sales history of their favorite inserts or parallels.

Clubbing Cards to show similar products in auctions
This will give users the ability to see all listings that are currently active for the same card as well as give them the ability to sort by Serial Number or Price.

The ability to list Packs in auction.

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Old 07-16-2021, 05:29 AM   #1215
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I'll just say this, if the marketplace were working perfectly and things were flipping for 10x immediately and easily there'd be no opportunity. The fact that it's such a painful experience right now is why I've been buying.

Does anyone believe Panini won't improve the marketplace?

Does anyone believe Panini isn't going to invest heavily into this space? The margins must be incredible and way higher than physical.

I've gotten so many cards for $20 and under that would be worth $100+ if this just reached the level of ... Topps NFTs! (Did you think I was going to say TopShot?)

Does anyone believe Panini NBA's first packs can't be as valuable as Topps NFTs where you can't even get into the market easily with a credit card (as an American) if you didn't get packs?

I've gone pretty deep into this, just sticking mostly to guys like Lebron, Lamelo, Luka.

This thing will take off at some point. It'll get a boost so many different ways. When they roll out a functional marketplace, prices will go up. When they launch NFL tons of new customers will come in. When they release next season's Prizm set prices will go up.

I'm more bullish on this than TopShot because the company understands collecting. You're not going to see them torpedo the entire thing with 40,000+ runs.

The market is so soft right now that 100 people coming in willing to spend at market and slightly above would shift the entire thing upwards. Just 100! I've already noticed this happening with the /149 silvers. Stars and rookies have dried up majorly.
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:48 AM   #1216
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I wish they would have done what Topps did at the very minimum…..have inserts in their base and silver packs like ‘autos’, refractors, etc. Make a Chronicles style NFT pack that has other 1/1’s, 1/5’s black refractors, etc. Loot box laws are not applicable here in the US so restrict sales to US for these if it’s a concern..

If not, then at least make the NFT’s different from the regular card releases. Different pictures, different series that does not exist in physical form etc. It is quite boring (like Topps) that there is nothing really different about these other than being basically a ‘scan’ of a physical card. The entire NFT and crypto space has really softened too and the ‘shiny new penny’ that NFT’s were has worn off.
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Old 07-16-2021, 09:55 AM   #1217
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I completed the Voltage challenge. Had to buy 4 to complete it and glad I did it sooner rather than later. I think prices will tick upwards for the 10 cards needed as the challenge gets close to the end.
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Old 07-16-2021, 10:07 AM   #1218
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I wish they would have done what Topps did at the very minimum…..have inserts in their base and silver packs like ‘autos’, refractors, etc. Make a Chronicles style NFT pack that has other 1/1’s, 1/5’s black refractors, etc. Loot box laws are not applicable here in the US so restrict sales to US for these if it’s a concern..

If not, then at least make the NFT’s different from the regular card releases. Different pictures, different series that does not exist in physical form etc. It is quite boring (like Topps) that there is nothing really different about these other than being basically a ‘scan’ of a physical card. The entire NFT and crypto space has really softened too and the ‘shiny new penny’ that NFT’s were has worn off.
As an international buyer I’m glad they don’t do that! I’m priced out of the hobby for quite some since logistics are just too expensive to get cards delivered from the US so,I’m very interested in NFT products.

I also disagree with the status of the NFT market, maybe Topshot is struggling (because they don’t know how collectibles work), but many other NFT projects continue to be very successful.
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Old 07-16-2021, 10:37 AM   #1219
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Here is a link for Panini NFT discord. This will probably blow up in near future. https://discord.gg/wMwQQTP7BP


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I wish they would have done what Topps did at the very minimum…..have inserts in their base and silver packs like ‘autos’, refractors, etc. Make a Chronicles style NFT pack that has other 1/1’s, 1/5’s black refractors, etc. Loot box laws are not applicable here in the US so restrict sales to US for these if it’s a concern..

If not, then at least make the NFT’s different from the regular card releases. Different pictures, different series that does not exist in physical form etc. It is quite boring (like Topps) that there is nothing really different about these other than being basically a ‘scan’ of a physical card. The entire NFT and crypto space has really softened too and the ‘shiny new penny’ that NFT’s were has worn off.
I made a post about this earlier but I fully agree. I think Panini needs to look for some kind of balance between the packaging similar to TS and other projects that have some light motion or action like the Space Jame NFTs.

Obviously it doesnt need to be a full blown video clip, but something with the background or the parallel itself. Could you image how cool a blue velocity NFT would look if it pivoted on its vertical axis to mimic the light motion of the refractor boxes? Awesome. Seeing the vibrant pop of disco parallels. Pow! The silvers having that rainbow effect that makes it feel like you are holding a real one in your hand. Next level.

Panini has everything in place from a catalog perspective, now they just need to apply that next level of pop so its more than just a digital image.
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:00 AM   #1221
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I made a post about this earlier but I fully agree. I think Panini needs to look for some kind of balance between the packaging similar to TS and other projects that have some light motion or action like the Space Jame NFTs.

Obviously it doesnt need to be a full blown video clip, but something with the background or the parallel itself. Could you image how cool a blue velocity NFT would look if it pivoted on its vertical axis to mimic the light motion of the refractor boxes? Awesome. Seeing the vibrant pop of disco parallels. Pow! The silvers having that rainbow effect that makes it feel like you are holding a real one in your hand. Next level.

Panini has everything in place from a catalog perspective, now they just need to apply that next level of pop so its more than just a digital image.
I think it’s just a matter of time when they bring more animated cards to the mix.

They actually did that already once when all NFL Draft 1/1 NFTs were animated:

https://www.paniniamerica.net/2021-p...ilson-1-1.html
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:06 AM   #1222
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Oooo. I didnt know about those. They look great. This is the kind of look that Net Marvel should have had, or better said, will prob have in the future.

It makes sense tho. Digital scans are the low handing fruit and gets the platform up and running with incremental refinements.
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Old 07-16-2021, 11:20 AM   #1223
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So I couldnt resist and got 4 more.

Last pack..


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Old 07-16-2021, 11:50 AM   #1224
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So I couldnt resist and got 4 more.

Last pack..


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Saw you just posted that in the discord. That's awesome!
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Old 07-16-2021, 12:17 PM   #1225
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thanks. was tough sledding until the very last card in each of my batches of 4.

Looking forward to more silver challenges to claw back some pack price on my commons lol
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