Ronald Acuña

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by grizjunkie23

Alvarez looks like a baller, but the hobby is increasingly more mindful of "complete" players. WAR totals generate MVP consideration, and Acuna came ready-built with defense. His bat is still developing, and he's streaky, but he won't live or die by how many homeruns he hits in a 100 AB stretch. Its how a player like Mookie Betts can struggle at the plate, but come roaring back when he goes on a tear. It would also explain the current gap in the market between Soto and Acuna (though I suspect Soto's defense will improve with time, as will the demand).

Not bagging on Alvarez - the guy looks great, and he, like Acuna, is playing for a contender.

It's a fair point. I guess I believe that collectors on Blowout are much different than most in the industry and while we may value the complete package, most in the industry are still enamored by the long ball. If we look at Betts, his WAR is actually higher than Acuna's right now and yet Betts prices have fallen (I believe because his HR pace is down considerably from last year).

[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

I think we're all just a little confused as to why you believe his current performance isn't very good for his age. Also, his Update cards are, what, $14?

My point was purely related to card prices. Acuna is having a fine year for a 21 year old in the field of play. For cards? I personally believe he needs to improve (which I did not say wouldn't happen - he could certainly go on a run like he did 2nd half of last year). I just think Alvarez is the first legitimate threat to Acuna's title as the most exciting young player in the game based on his ability to hit a baseball a really long ways.

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

My point was purely related to card prices. Acuna is having a fine year for a 21 year old in the field of play. For cards? I personally believe he needs to improve (which I did not say wouldn't happen - he could certainly go on a run like he did 2nd half of last year). I just think Alvarez is the first legitimate threat to Acuna's title as the most exciting young player in the game based on his ability to hit a baseball a really long ways.

What makes Yordan any different than the countless other young players right now?

Here's a list (but there's many more):

Juan Soto
Gleyber Torres
Austin Meadows
Pete Alonso
Austin Riley
Wander Franco
Vladimir Guerrero Jr



You're making the statement that people will jump all over the Yordan bandwagon and leave Acuna in the dust. There was a HUGE bandwagon for most of the guys listed above at some point (and still for some). Acuna prices continued to climb.

[JrFinest]

Alvarez who? Does he have his own thread?

When did this turn into a promote my favorite prospect post?

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Alvarez wont have any RCs this year, short of Topps reversing policy

Really? He won’t be in TU?


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

Really? He won’t be in TU?


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no reason to be

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

no reason to be

Is there a cutoff for Topps on the call ups? How do they decide?


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

Is there a cutoff for Topps on the call ups? How do they decide?


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They do what they want. Monopoly

[SaltyCracker]

These are nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronald-Acun...MAAOSwAetdAvIM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ronald-Acun...wAAOSwKF1dAvLq

[grizjunkie23]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

It's a fair point. I guess I believe that collectors on Blowout are much different than most in the industry and while we may value the complete package, most in the industry are still enamored by the long ball. If we look at Betts, his WAR is actually higher than Acuna's right now and yet Betts prices have fallen (I believe because his HR pace is down considerably from last year).

I agree 100%. The industry is fickle, but a player who displays consistency (i.e. Betts with his defense, even when his bat is asleep) very rarely experiences the same value flight that a player who is 100% fueled by the longball does. Everyone has cold streaks at the plate, but people panic and sell when there isn't something else to prop them up. That money gets put into the next up and coming slugger, and it rarely returns even if the course is corrected. The idea of a complete collapse just keeps people from considering long-term investment, which (if we've learned anything from Trout), is part of what fuels such crazy prices in this hobby. It would take someone like Betts turning into Jason Heyward for the next two seasons for his cards to lose their heat entirely.

I'm using Betts as an analogy here, and I recognize that Acuna has a long way to go before they're in the same conversation.

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

They do what they want. Monopoly

Gotcha! Thanks.


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[dmanrico]

Originally Posted by grizjunkie23

I agree 100%. The industry is fickle, but a player who displays consistency (i.e. Betts with his defense, even when his bat is asleep) very rarely experiences the same value flight that a player who is 100% fueled by the longball does. Everyone has cold streaks at the plate, but people panic and sell when there isn't something else to prop them up. That money gets put into the next up and coming slugger, and it rarely returns even if the course is corrected. The idea of a complete collapse just keeps people from considering long-term investment, which (if we've learned anything from Trout), is part of what fuels such crazy prices in this hobby. It would take someone like Betts turning into Jason Heyward for the next two seasons for his cards to lose their heat entirely.

I'm using Betts as an analogy here, and I recognize that Acuna has a long way to go before they're in the same conversation.

Good post

[dmanrico]

And for the record I own a grand total of zero Alvarez cards and have a sizable investment in Acuna.

[grizjunkie23]

Originally Posted by dmanrico

And for the record I own a grand total of zero Alvarez cards and have a sizable investment in Acuna.

Same here. Wish I had grabbed a few Alvarez earlier this year. It will be fun to see where he lands if he keeps mashing. It would be a shame if Topps doesn't add him to late season releases.

[KingInTheNorth]

Another multi hit game.. average up to .292

[ThoseBackPages]

very nice!

[kyle121592]

Ho hum no HRs!!!

[cp312]

.294 now what a scrub

[ALBASKETBALL]

Slap hitter with no power

[kyle121592]

Already 21 too it’s over Johnny

[kyle121592]

4-4 4 R 1 RBI yea he sucks!! Solo HR!

[chfu3030]

He gone.

[KingInTheNorth]

Average up to .297

Wonder where all the Soto>Acuna guys have gone.

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by KingInTheNorth

Average up to .297

Wonder where all the Soto>Acuna guys have gone.

I'm a Soto AND Acuna guy.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by KingInTheNorth

Average up to .297

Wonder where all the Soto>Acuna guys have gone.

to the Yordan thread