2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[cruiserdaddy7]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

@frenzi

Why would Trump call him a radical or terrorist? He was a white trash piece of sh-t. Who cares who he supported? You're reaching pretty far lately.I don't want to go back 400 pages and quote all of your non sense, but predominantly, your posts are so anti Trump it isn't funny. That's all fine and good, but you can't help but talk about him and say hardly anything about hill dog. It's fine if you like her, just spare everyone your comments about how you voted third party when you clearly like her enough to not hold her to the same standard as Trump.

Just look at the dirt bags and criminals the DNC ran on stage at their convention.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Astros19

Seriously, that's all you got?

65% of your posts are in this thread. Fascinating!

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I'll ask again.
What do you believe Trump should have said or done?

Honestly?

Probably nothing.

My point being that the expectation for major figures to constantly "condemn" or "distance themselves" from every minor incident or tweet is insane. So why do I bring it up here? Because I've seen this expectation go one way for years now and the fact that it doesn't go the other way should be a signal to both sides that it's a false standard.

As are most of the standards both sides are holding their opponent to.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by cruiserdaddy7

Just look at the dirt bags and criminals the DNC ran on stage at their convention.

Polls show that 75% of Trump supporters let their dogs pee in other people's yards. Only 34% of Hillary supporters do.

Now where do you stand??!

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Nicnac

Because Republicans/Fox news anchors don't jump for joy every time the reverse happens?

You bet your butt the nut job extreme right wingers, and much of Fox, do jump for joy when the reverse happens. Just like the nut job Obozo/BLM groupies do in an incident like this.

Meanwhile, rational people see it for what it is, a terrible tragedy, not giving a damn what race, religion, gender, etc., the victim or the perp is.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Polls show that 75% of Trump supporters let their dogs pee in other people's yards. Only 34% of Hillary supporters do.

Now where do you stand??!

I pee on dogs that pee on my grass.

[TheHeel]

How come Trump hasn't kicked out Corrupt Christie off his transition team yet?

Eh, it wouldn't matter. Trump will not be POTUS.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

You bet your butt the nut job extreme right wingers, and much of Fox, do jump for joy when the reverse happens. Just like the nut job Obozo/BLM groupies do in an incident like this.

Meanwhile, rational people see it for what it is, a terrible tragedy, not giving a damn what race, religion, gender, etc., the victim or the perp is.

I'm not sure if I'm considered a nut job extreme right winger, but when I first heard about this crime, my first thought was "please don't let this be race related".
I certainly wasn't happy that it ended up being a white dude, but I was indeed relieved.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

65% of your posts are in this thread. Fascinating!

This is the second time someone has brought up where most of my posts occur.
I don't get it, why does anyone care?
Am I breaking some kind of rule or something, or are you just hoping I'll stop posting?
Seems to be a lot of stalkers here.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Honestly?

Probably nothing.

My point being that the expectation for major figures to constantly "condemn" or "distance themselves" from every minor incident or tweet is insane. So why do I bring it up here? Because I've seen this expectation go one way for years now and the fact that it doesn't go the other way should be a signal to both sides that it's a false standard.

As are most of the standards both sides are holding their opponent to.

Fair enough, thanks for answering.
And yes, I agree with your sentiments.

[corndog]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Seriously? Bro.....not cool.

I'm sorry that having inconsistencies pointed out by a third party voter has you so defensive.

Riiight...

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I'm not sure if I'm considered a nut job extreme right winger, but when I first heard about this crime, my first thought was "please don't let this be race related".
I certainly wasn't happy that it ended up being a white dude, but I was indeed relieved.

Not wanting it to be race related sounds sensible. It's the ones who hope it's race related to further their cause, on either side, that I was referring too.

[ntgm37]

This page is one of the longest (if not the), so of course there will be a lot of posts on here, so I don't understand the attack on Astros either.

Frenzi: I hope my post didn't come off as harsh as I imagine it did, but I appreciate the level headed response to it.

As for Christie, I hope he and everyone who did that crap get canned and jail time. There is simply no room for what is going on today from the vast majority of our politicians.

Here is one way to look at our candidates:

If Hillary wins, she will have a great shot at being re-elected in my opinion. So, do we want 8 years of the same non-sense that we have had the past 8? Even Democrats have to admit that our deficit is out of control, and she will add to it, not to mention the insanity of bringing in the refugees. Just ask the people in Paris and London how that is working out for them.

If Trump wins, he has a very small chance of getting re-elected, and he plans some major shake ups in the downward spiral. We need something else besides the status quo. Just some random thoughts.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

I hope in the midst of pissing off many people, some people will see that I'm trying here.

I do, and appreciate the effort, though I believe the approach of fighting fire with fire is an exercise in futility. The High Road is the road less traveled for a reason. The discourse here has deteriorated to a state of near disrepair. Name calling, ego shots, schoolyard rhetoric, etc.

Compromise is the crux of democracy. If we can't discuss the issue du jour civilly as private citizens, what right do we have to expect any better from the legislative stewards we've elected?

The admissions fee for entrance into a great and free society is tolerance for a plurality of opinions and beliefs, some of which you may oppose diametrically.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

I do, and appreciate the effort, though I believe the approach of fighting fire with fire is an exercise in futility. The High Road is the road less traveled for a reason. The discourse here has deteriorated to a state of near disrepair. Name calling, ego shots, schoolyard rhetoric, etc.

Compromise is the crux of democracy. If we can't discuss the issue du jour civilly as private citizens, what right do we have to expect any better from the legislative stewards we've elected?

The admissions fee for entrance into a great and free society is tolerance for a plurality of opinions and beliefs, some of which you may oppose diametrically.

That was beautifully stated.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

If Hillary wins, she will have a great shot at being re-elected in my opinion. So, do we want 8 years of the same non-sense that we have had the past 8? Even Democrats have to admit that our deficit is out of control, and she will add to it, not to mention the insanity of bringing in the refugees. Just ask the people in Paris and London how that is working out for them.

If Trump wins, he has a very small chance of getting re-elected, and he plans some major shake ups in the downward spiral. We need something else besides the status quo. Just some random thoughts.

Plus, there are so many Republicans that don't like Trump, he is likely to get very little accomplished, as neither side will be too eager to work with him. So we just wait out an ineffective four years and hope for the best when the next batch of candidates come forward.

On the other hand, Hillary and her corruption is already so entrenched, and accepted in Washington, that she holds the potential to really screw things up worse. Does anybody honestly belive that she'll cease the pay to play politics as president? If anything, it'll be worse, with potentially more devastating results.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

I do, and appreciate the effort, though I believe the approach of fighting fire with fire is an exercise in futility. The High Road is the road less traveled for a reason. The discourse here has deteriorated to a state of near disrepair. Name calling, ego shots, schoolyard rhetoric, etc.

Compromise is the crux of democracy. If we can't discuss the issue du jour civilly as private citizens, what right do we have to expect any better from the legislative stewards we've elected?

The admissions fee for entrance into a great and free society is tolerance for a plurality of opinions and beliefs, some of which you may oppose diametrically.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by ntgm37

If Hillary wins, she will have a great shot at being re-elected in my opinion. So, do we want 8 years of the same non-sense that we have had the past 8? Even Democrats have to admit that our deficit is out of control, and she will add to it, not to mention the insanity of bringing in the refugees. Just ask the people in Paris and London how that is working out for them.

If Trump wins, he has a very small chance of getting re-elected, and he plans some major shake ups in the downward spiral. We need something else besides the status quo. Just some random thoughts.

Now this is a level-headed rational for Trump.

"He's far from perfect but the system is so broken that I'm willing to roll the dice."

It doesn't hinge on intense hatred for the opposition. It doesn't excuse anything. It doesn't hold to double-standards.

It makes sense.

That's a perfectly fair assessment. Actually a bit in line with a lot of the "vote third party" reasoning. The system has to change.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

I do, and appreciate the effort, though I believe the approach of fighting fire with fire is an exercise in futility. The High Road is the road less traveled for a reason. The discourse here has deteriorated to a state of near disrepair. Name calling, ego shots, schoolyard rhetoric, etc.

Compromise is the crux of democracy. If we can't discuss the issue du jour civilly as private citizens, what right do we have to expect any better from the legislative stewards we've elected?

The admissions fee for entrance into a great and free society is tolerance for a plurality of opinions and beliefs, some of which you may oppose diametrically.

Starting up the Ryno2020 campaign?

I'd be down for it if you promise to make Houdini the Secretary of Defense.

[oldgoldy97]

Hillary is one of the worst candidates in recent memory. Why would she have a good chance of reelection?

[oldgoldy97]

And I didn't know stating facts equaled personal attacks. But I guess facts are the conservative's krytonite.

[tke1600]

Questions for Hillary supporters: Are you worried about the FBI investigation into the 650,000 emails and the investigation into the foundation? Do you believe it to be just noise or is it worth the gamble that she may or may not be indicted soon?

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by tke1600

Questions for Hillary supporters: Are you worried about the FBI investigation into the 650,000 emails and the investigation into the foundation? Do you believe it to be just noise or is it worth the gamble that she may or may not be indicted soon?

Most I know only worry about the emails if it means her not getting elected. They don't care about the content, as long as it doesn't hinder her chances.

[TheFrenzy]

To the often repeated question: What would it take to change your vote?

Show me a candidate who will outlaw trailers that spoil the movie and I'll find a way to get my vote changed on Monday. Swearsies.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Starting up the Ryno2020 campaign?

I'd be down for it if you promise to make Houdini the Secretary of Defense.

I've dedicated my life to the avoidance of responsibility, but in this hypothetical, I know Scoggins has dibs on First Lady.