Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 462

SupermanBrandon · 05-25-2020, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

Semi-serious answer.....
No one can fully understand all the drivers for this craziness. I'm a pretty smart dude with an MBA from a top school, but have no idea WTF is going on or what i'm going to do. My thoughts are don't waste time wrapping your head around this. Stop watching the madness and put some skin in the game. You'll learn more by doing and have more fun in the process.

Yes sir. I found myself Saturday and yesterday just calculating my potential profit (on the cards I have bought)...while reading on FB and BO. Today I decided to quit watching and dive back in. $5k spent today! LET'S GO!

...and when does Series 2 drop?

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

Problem with buying just what you like is that as this has gone on, at least for me personally, I'm finding something I like about pretty much every card.

A few exceptions, but for the most part, the cards themselves are pretty bada$$.

thats the rub

as collectors, its "ok" to not have everything we'd like to have

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Yes sir. I found myself Saturday and yesterday just calculating my potential profit (on the cards I have bought)...while reading on FB and BO. Today I decided to quit watching and dive back in. $5k spent today! LET'S GO!

...and when does Series 2 drop?

tomorrow

Soxfanguy · 05-25-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

lAnd I now I just saw someone point out that he has 6 fingers on his left hand. LOL

He had too much brain and nerve tonic

gmoney328 · 05-25-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Yes sir. I found myself Saturday and yesterday just calculating my potential profit (on the cards I have bought)...while reading on FB and BO. Today I decided to quit watching and dive back in. $5k spent today! LET'S GO!

...and when does Series 2 drop?

Series 2...LOL.

Series 2 with who? The RC class might be WOEFUL.

cowboyfaninlr · 05-25-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dhcollecting

It feels like a large bubble, these prices will come down hard when all the investors bail. There isnt enough pure Topps set collectors to drive up the prices.

I think that is correct in the card collecting community but this release has brought in many "other" collectors from art to artisit etc and how those play out and move the market is anybodys guess at this point. I sell enough to cover my cost and plan to hold on for the ride!!!! Probably always be able to make money at $14.50 per card just maybe not as much.

Interesting going forward will a card less thank 20K be a SP? 25K?

ObanMontecristo · 05-25-2020, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

buy the cards you like, and if it all burns to the ground, you will have cards you like

buying what you like, not getting caught up in FOMO, spending within your means and not getting greedy = no stress and lots of fun!

PDCCollectibles · 05-25-2020, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by justin80

You’ve got people jumping in that aren’t baseball fans and don’t know the players. I don’t even think they know what Topps is. Just look at the Instagram or other social media feeds for some of the more popular artists. Lots of people buying the artist. Asking questions we would consider dumb like “where can I buy this?” Then you have people on BO buying the players. There’s probably a little quarantine boredom going on too. Basically a lot of factors combining to create this phenomenon. And it appears to be gaining steam.

I did a good amount of research/reading on this....and it is true, a lot of artist followers are just starting to get wind about this. Don't get me wrong, a lot have been in already as well, but the steam is picking up like it did after cards 65-70 here on BO....I promise, last time I'll say it....we are only 90 cards deep out of 400, it's still early!

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 02:03 PM

i GUARANTEE this market WILL crash!

might be tomorrow or in the year 2086, but it WILL!

Snakeonia · 05-25-2020, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i agree, do NOT buy 10s griffeys if you hate money

I do not hate money so whats the right answer now?

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Namttip · 05-25-2020, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

This kinda feels like the Crypto bubble from a couple years back.....

This is way outpacing that....

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeonia

I do not hate money so whats the right answer now?

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buy 10 Griffeys

Soxfanguy · 05-25-2020, 02:04 PM

There’s so many people unemployed, can’t Topps just hire more people so they can ship them out faster?

BurnerNotify · 05-25-2020, 02:05 PM

As much as i've bashed Baller's bragging and boasting, I'm really grateful that he's part of this project. It's just another super interesting facet to this chaos and it wouldn't be the same without him. Loving his, "Baller did this card" BS now too. I'm such a sell out.

stayontarget89 · 05-25-2020, 02:05 PM

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JVB · 05-25-2020, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by williemayshayes

...artist that has Biiiiig money following. Baller may be louder but Vides has guys like LeBron wanting stuff from him.

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And Vides has a Fendi line dropping in the next week or two. Men's, women's, children's, accessories, the whole she-bang. He's popping off right now.

Jopeal · 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

I’m not seeing the correlation there.... Can you elaborate why you’re comparing the ‘52 Mantle?

Print run, iconic set.

I’m not saying this set is the 1952 Topps of our time but I’ve personally never seen anything similar to this phenomenon in the card world.

jayjones82 · 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM

Once you get to the last hundred cards in the set and the print runs are touching 100,000 per card, anything below about 35,000 will be considered SP, especially for anyone trying to put a set together. I don’t see them increasing too much longer before plateauing, but I do think the cards with lower PRs or higher aesthetic appeal will hold decent value.

trendy26 · 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stayontarget89

The cards I bought from the first 20 cause I thought they were just cool looking...back when I thought it was only a 20 card set.

All original prices except for the Ichiro, paid $100 for that one.

Accidentally bought 2 of Jamieson Ryan’s.

Would you sell the Griffey? I want to get one for my PC

WHyFLy · 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

As much as i've bashed Baller's bragging and boasting, I'm really grateful that he's part of this project. It's just another super interesting facet to this chaos and it wouldn't be the same without him. Loving his, "Baller did this card" BS now too. I'm such a sell out.

I love how loud of a voice Baller is. I mean he bashes and brags but he rightfully deserves so. The guy has come from nothing and made himself into a big big big icon in the Pop Art industry and Jewelry industry. Guy's got flare and a fire, I love it.

rats60 · 05-25-2020, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jopeal

Serious question: Do you think the original 1952 Topps Mantle is a bubble?

It took 27 years of Topps printing cards every year and a low print run for Mantle to hit 500.00. It was a 1.00 or less card for years. Buying this for 20 from Topps is a no brainer. Spending 4 figures on cards weeks old seems like a bubble.

ThoseBackPages · 05-25-2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

Would you sell the Griffey? I want to get one for my PC

offer him 3K !

BurnerNotify · 05-25-2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Someone that maths should see if there is any kind of sales pattern for the different days of the week.

There seems to be a Friday effect (which dampens PR's) that i noticed, but don't quote me.

justin80 · 05-25-2020, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

I did a good amount of research/reading on this....and it is true, a lot of artist followers are just starting to get wind about this. Don't get me wrong, a lot have been in already as well, but the steam is picking up like it did after cards 65-70 here on BO....I promise, last time I'll say it....we are only 90 cards deep out of 400, it's still early!

Putting it another way, I’d never heard of ANY of these artists/social media guys before Project 2020. But you can bet that I have more of any appreciation for their work now. I’m like I wonder how much Efdot would charge to put a mural on my wall or if Keith shore would make a family portrait for me cartoon style?? For me — even as a baseball collector — it’s transcending the Project 2020 set.

stayontarget89 · 05-25-2020, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

Would you sell the Griffey? I want to get one for my PC

Sorry, I’m keeping them all (for now at least lol)

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stayontarget89 Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 51 stayontargetcollectibles	Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer Deleting this post text Last edited by stayontarget89; 05-25-2020 at 06:40 PM.

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jayjones82 Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: GA to Germany to TX Posts: 3,477	Once you get to the last hundred cards in the set and the print runs are touching 100,000 per card, anything below about 35,000 will be considered SP, especially for anyone trying to put a set together. I don’t see them increasing too much longer before plateauing, but I do think the cards with lower PRs or higher aesthetic appeal will hold decent value. Last edited by jayjones82; 05-25-2020 at 02:11 PM.

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BurnerNotify Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 729 diamondintheback	As much as i've bashed Baller's bragging and boasting, I'm really grateful that he's part of this project. It's just another super interesting facet to this chaos and it wouldn't be the same without him. Loving his, "Baller did this card" BS now too. I'm such a sell out.