Right now, where do you rank Lebron all time? - Page 46

ThoseBackPages · 05-30-2018, 09:57 PM

why would it hurt his legacy?

his legacy is already tarnished. he left in the first place. not only did he leave, but the way he left. TV Show and all. VERY immature. cannot be forgiven or forgotten

all-time great player, but will never "live that down"

Frog · 05-30-2018, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mondogenerator

personally.... 3-4 but top 5 for sure.

1. jordan
2. russell
3. lebron could swap with 4
4. kobe could swap with 3
5. starts getting tough - wilt, bird, magic kareem, oscar,

This whole Kobe thing needs to stop. I'm sorry, but in no universe is Kobe better than LeBron. I don't understand why I still see this. How could anyone watch both of these 2 play and come to this conclusion? It's just not close.

JHH · 05-30-2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

It has to hurt his legacy if he leaves.

I like Nance and Clarkson as pieces to build on. Got the 8th pick too..

I'm still waiting for the K. Love bashers to tell me who they'd wish they'd have instead of him for the past 3-4 seasons.

Other than getting injury a lot, I really like Love as a Cavs and do appreciate what he has done as a Cav! Just don't know lots of people hate him and kept saying he's worthless and should be gone...

As for Nance being back to his hometown and play for the team I do hope he stays long enough. But not really a fan of Clarkson though, unless he figures it out how to make smarter shot and not just shoot all the time.

drobfan8 · 05-30-2018, 09:58 PM

Maybe take a look at how many very good players have been drafted after the 8th pick. Plus this dude will be learning under LeBron. The Spurs would be licking their lips with the 8th pick.

So wise up..

LeBron can do what he wants, leave, whatever, but it does get a bit sad when you've got his fanatics saying he's the GOAT, yet he has to keep moving on to the young talent..

drobfan8 · 05-30-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JHH

Other than getting injury a lot, I really like Love as a Cavs and do appreciate what he has done as a Cav! Just don't know lots of people hate him and kept saying he's worthless and should be gone...

As for Nance being back to his hometown and play for the team I do hope he stays long enough. But not really a fan of Clarkson though, unless he figures it out how to make smarter shot and not just shoot all the time.

Yeah Love becomes the scapegoat if he doesn't.play amazing.

Clarkson has a lot to learn, but he's a nice guy in your roation. Sure there's better out there, but you only need 15 good.mins.

Jr is the problem, with his money and what he gives. I'd dump him for a packet of chips.

fb5b · 05-30-2018, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Maybe take a look at how many very good players have been drafted after the 8th pick. Plus this dude will be learning under LeBron. The Spurs would be licking their lips with the 8th pick.

So wise up..

LeBron can do what he wants, leave, whatever, but it does get a bit sad when you've got his fanatics saying he's the GOAT, yet he has to keep moving on to the young talent..

2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
2012 Terrence Ross
2011 Brandon Knight
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu
2009 Jordan Hill Arizona
2008 Joe Alexander
2007 Brandan Wright
2006 Rudy Gay
2005 Channing Frye
2004 Rafael Araujo
2003 TJ Ford
2002 Chris Wilcox
2001 Sagana Diop
2000 Jamal Crawford
1999 Andre Miller
1998 Larry Hughes
1997 Adonal Foyle
1996 Kerry Kittles
1995 Shawn Respert
1994 Brian Grant
1993 Vin Baker
1992 Todd Day
1991 Mark Macon
1990 Bo Kimble
1989 Randy White
1988 Rex Chapman
1987 Olden Polynice

Nope, wouldn't trade any (or all) or these for Kyrie

Wise up..... I don't think so champ.

rhigh2390 · 05-30-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fb5b

2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
2012 Terrence Ross
2011 Brandon Knight
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu
2009 Jordan Hill Arizona
2008 Joe Alexander
2007 Brandan Wright
2006 Rudy Gay
2005 Channing Frye
2004 Rafael Araujo
2003 TJ Ford
2002 Chris Wilcox
2001 Sagana Diop
2000 Jamal Crawford
1999 Andre Miller
1998 Larry Hughes
1997 Adonal Foyle
1996 Kerry Kittles
1995 Shawn Respert
1994 Brian Grant
1993 Vin Baker
1992 Todd Day
1991 Mark Macon
1990 Bo Kimble
1989 Randy White
1988 Rex Chapman
1987 Olden Polynice

Nope, wouldn't trade any (or all) or these for Kyrie

Wise up..... I don't think so champ.

Are you really that dense to think that no good players have ever been drafter lower than 8th??? Does someone really need to come up with a list of all stars that have been drafted lower than 8th?

fb5b · 05-30-2018, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Are you really that dense to think that no good players have ever been drafter lower than 8th??? Does someone really need to come up with a list of all stars that have been drafted lower than 8th?

Why would I bother to go to that effort to try and hold something resembling a rational discussion with a person who has proven to be the resident MJ fanboy, sorry, no discussion in the world can fix stupid.

Back in your box.

rhigh2390 · 05-30-2018, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fb5b

Why would I bother to go to that effort to try and hold something resembling a rational discussion with a person who has proven to be the resident MJ fanboy, sorry, no discussion in the world can fix stupid.

Back in your box.

Haha you might want to try enjoying life a bit and stay off BO if you are going to get angry on a card forum lol

Just to teach you something, here are some notable #9 picks since 1997: Dennis Smith Jr, Andre Drummond, Kemba Walker, Gordon Hayward, Demar Derozan, Amare Stoudemire, Dirk Nowitzki, and Tracy McGrady.

Pretty sure you can get a nice piece with the #8 pick. Stay classy though

drobfan8 · 05-30-2018, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fb5b

2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
2012 Terrence Ross
2011 Brandon Knight
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu
2009 Jordan Hill Arizona
2008 Joe Alexander
2007 Brandan Wright
2006 Rudy Gay
2005 Channing Frye
2004 Rafael Araujo
2003 TJ Ford
2002 Chris Wilcox
2001 Sagana Diop
2000 Jamal Crawford
1999 Andre Miller
1998 Larry Hughes
1997 Adonal Foyle
1996 Kerry Kittles
1995 Shawn Respert
1994 Brian Grant
1993 Vin Baker
1992 Todd Day
1991 Mark Macon
1990 Bo Kimble
1989 Randy White
1988 Rex Chapman
1987 Olden Polynice

Nope, wouldn't trade any (or all) or these for Kyrie

Wise up..... I don't think so champ.

You're making yourself look foolish. Especially when names like Kobe, Kawhi, Manu, T. Parker, Klay have all been picked lower. And there's many, many more. Hell Steph was pick 7.

drobfan8 · 05-30-2018, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Haha you might want to try enjoying life a bit and stay off BO if you are going to get angry on a card forum lol

Just to teach you something, here are some notable #9 picks since 1997: Dennis Smith Jr, Andre Drummond, Kemba Walker, Gordon Hayward, Demar Derozan, Amare Stoudemire, Dirk Nowitzki, and Tracy McGrady.

Pretty sure you can get a nice piece with the #8 pick. Stay classy though

There's some big names in there. But hey, there's no talent after pick 3 amiright.

Where was D. Mitchell picked only just last season after 8?

6celtics33 · 05-31-2018, 05:18 AM

Well most of Golden State’s best team of all time super team was drafted in that range or lower

Round Mound · 05-31-2018, 06:20 AM

Very soon we will read that the Cavs drafting Kapono, Luke Jackson, Shannon Brown, instead of players like Klay, Green and Curry is all LeBron's fault....

6celtics33 · 05-31-2018, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Round Mound

Very soon we will read that the Cavs drafting Kapono, Luke Jackson, Shannon Brown, instead of players like Klay, Green and Curry is all LeBron's fault....

I think all they are saying is that you can get good players at the 8

rhigh2390 · 05-31-2018, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

There's some big names in there. But hey, there's no talent after pick 3 amiright.

Where was D. Mitchell picked only just last season after 8?

Mitchell was 13th. He's trash though since he wasn't a top 3 pick lol

BlueXtreme · 05-31-2018, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Is LeBron really gonna leave CLE again? Man that is getting sad if so.

There's.plenty to build on there. Make subtle moves and they'll be fine.

27426 · 05-31-2018, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frog

This whole Kobe thing needs to stop. I'm sorry, but in no universe is Kobe better than LeBron. I don't understand why I still see this. How could anyone watch both of these 2 play and come to this conclusion? It's just not close.

I personally think LeBron is better, but there are NBA players that played against both who picked Kobe over LeBron. Stats don’t tell everything and I don’t think the answer is obvious.

imbluestreak23 · 05-31-2018, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fb5b

2013 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
2012 Terrence Ross
2011 Brandon Knight
2010 Al-Farouq Aminu
2009 Jordan Hill Arizona
2008 Joe Alexander
2007 Brandan Wright
2006 Rudy Gay
2005 Channing Frye
2004 Rafael Araujo
2003 TJ Ford
2002 Chris Wilcox
2001 Sagana Diop
2000 Jamal Crawford
1999 Andre Miller
1998 Larry Hughes
1997 Adonal Foyle
1996 Kerry Kittles
1995 Shawn Respert
1994 Brian Grant
1993 Vin Baker
1992 Todd Day
1991 Mark Macon
1990 Bo Kimble
1989 Randy White
1988 Rex Chapman
1987 Olden Polynice

Nope, wouldn't trade any (or all) or these for Kyrie

Wise up..... I don't think so champ.

What an awful argument. I want to try to help, but I just can't do it this morning. MORE COFFEE

jcardstore · 05-31-2018, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 27426

I personally think LeBron is better, but there are NBA players that played against both who picked Kobe over LeBron. Stats don’t tell everything and I don’t think the answer is obvious.

Who?????????

ThoseBackPages · 05-31-2018, 03:23 PM

might fall out of my top 10

lets see how tonights game goes

CC71 · 05-31-2018, 04:08 PM

he'll get a triple double tonight. just because he knows his team has no shot but he wants his stat line to look good. his stat line looks better than his hair line

21Pittsburgh58 · 05-31-2018, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CC71

he'll get a triple double tonight. just because he knows his team has no shot but he wants his stat line to look good. his stat line looks better than his hair line

That’s called effort. People who think triple doubles are no big deal, are fools!

The Cavs are going to lose. But if he averages a triple double, it’s because he’s trying to help that mediocre team win, NOT because he’s ‘padding stats’.

Idiots. Yeah, I said it.

Also, you capitalize the first word in a new sentence and after a period. LeBron’s hair line is better than your use of punctuation and grammar.

CC71 · 05-31-2018, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 21Pittsburgh58

Also, you capitalize the first word in a new sentence and after a period. LeBron’s hair line is better than your use of punctuation and grammar.

don't be one of those guys

fb5b · 05-31-2018, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

You're making yourself look foolish. Especially when names like Kobe, Kawhi, Manu, T. Parker, Klay have all been picked lower. And there's many, many more. Hell Steph was pick 7.

Almost as foolish as cardsdownunder and ozcardtrader?

...yeah, I went there!

Say hi to the card mafia for me

persona · 05-31-2018, 08:28 PM

Whole world on Lebron = One of the greatest to ever play the game.
Blowout on Lebron = He sucks, He is no MJ or Kobe therefore he sucks.

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05-30-2018, 09:57 PM	#1126
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,071 ThoseBackPages	why would it hurt his legacy? his legacy is already tarnished. he left in the first place. not only did he leave, but the way he left. TV Show and all. VERY immature. cannot be forgiven or forgotten all-time great player, but will never "live that down" __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,799 drobfan8 drobfan8	Maybe take a look at how many very good players have been drafted after the 8th pick. Plus this dude will be learning under LeBron. The Spurs would be licking their lips with the 8th pick. So wise up.. LeBron can do what he wants, leave, whatever, but it does get a bit sad when you've got his fanatics saying he's the GOAT, yet he has to keep moving on to the young talent.. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,071 ThoseBackPages	might fall out of my top 10 lets see how tonights game goes __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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6celtics33 Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 8,269	Well most of Golden State’s best team of all time super team was drafted in that range or lower

05-31-2018, 04:08 PM	#1146
CC71 Banned - PBM Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,235 corclarkso2	he'll get a triple double tonight. just because he knows his team has no shot but he wants his stat line to look good. his stat line looks better than his hair line

05-31-2018, 08:28 PM	#1150
persona Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,871	Whole world on Lebron = One of the greatest to ever play the game. Blowout on Lebron = He sucks, He is no MJ or Kobe therefore he sucks. __________________ *Please let me know in advance if you can not ship within Two Business days.