Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[mchenrycards]

Serious question......

How does the project 2020 sustain it's incredibly high returns on cards sold with print runs increasing with every issue. Sure, demand is currently outpacing supply but at some point, with these higher and higher print runs demand and supply are going to meet. Once we see that we will see the tailing off of prices.

It also appears so many people are investing in these cards by buying ten, twenty and even a hundred of these cards and holding them for a larger return down the road. At some point these investors will be cashing in and flooding the market which will reduce the overall secondary market prices for these cards (Let's just throw out the early cards with low print runs because we all know those will likely hold their value). Are the ones who are buying in large quantity worried about the devaluation of their investment when supply meets demand or are you slowly trickling out your stash of cards to the market place in hopes to take your profits when you can, even if they are not the huge profits you had hoped t make by holding onto these cards longer?

And it seems Topps has shipping issues as I know the only cards I purchased have still not shipped and it has been nearly four weeks. Are these shipping issues factoring into your buying in terms of not being able to trike while the iron is hot and losing out on sales because Topps cannot supply your cards in a reasonable amount of time?

I am just trying to wrap my mind around the resale market for these cards. I fully understand the demand for these works by the artists go way beyond the normal demand for sports cards but even then, the laws of supply and demand have to kick in somewhere and temper these sales. Are you guys who are buying these cards buying into the hype and HOPING for huge returns or do you have a real plan for buying low and selling at a comfortable high price.

I am serious about these questions as I would really like to know your thoughts. I am skeptical but not above testing the waters myself.

[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Have you seen his other work? I’m surprised Topps would want to work with him

I'm surprised his cards have been so "clean" compared to his other stuff. This makes collecting Fucci that much more interesting to me. Waiting for him to slip some boobies into his cards without Topps detecting it.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by Namttip

I am going to post today's fun facts...

Market Cap: $108,555,999.00

Average Card Price: $510.22

Interesting change in card prices at: 61Willie MaysKing Saladeen

Enjoy....

Wonder what the median is

Cards like Baller Ichiro and Ermsy Trout are tipping the scales too much for the average I think

[sourcehill]

Originally Posted by Ebmisfit

I believe the seller initially had it listed at 10k, 15k and eventually 25k. The price went up as others sold. I was watching it at 10k when I was willing to pay $450 a card.

Great sale.

He originally had them listed for $5,000 I believe. My lord...

[mchenrycards]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

I really doubt these artists are the scamming kind. They are into art and getting art into people's homes.

But they are artists...people who make a living on their talent with hopes people will like what they create and pay them for the privilege of hanging their art in their homes....or wherever. I am NOT saying anyone is doing this but to an artists who is looking at a cut of a huge payday....I wouldn't say it it out of the realm of possibility for anyone.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by mchenrycards

Serious question......

How does the project 2020 sustain it's incredibly high returns on cards sold with print runs increasing with every issue. Sure, demand is currently outpacing supply but at some point, with these higher and higher print runs demand and supply are going to meet. Once we see that we will see the tailing off of prices.

It also appears so many people are investing in these cards by buying ten, twenty and even a hundred of these cards and holding them for a larger return down the road. At some point these investors will be cashing in and flooding the market which will reduce the overall secondary market prices for these cards (Let's just throw out the early cards with low print runs because we all know those will likely hold their value). Are the ones who are buying in large quantity worried about the devaluation of their investment when supply meets demand or are you slowly trickling out your stash of cards to the market place in hopes to take your profits when you can, even if they are not the huge profits you had hoped t make by holding onto these cards longer?

And it seems Topps has shipping issues as I know the only cards I purchased have still not shipped and it has been nearly four weeks. Are these shipping issues factoring into your buying in terms of not being able to trike while the iron is hot and losing out on sales because Topps cannot supply your cards in a reasonable amount of time?

I am just trying to wrap my mind around the resale market for these cards. I fully understand the demand for these works by the artists go way beyond the normal demand for sports cards but even then, the laws of supply and demand have to kick in somewhere and temper these sales. Are you guys who are buying these cards buying into the hype and HOPING for huge returns or do you have a real plan for buying low and selling at a comfortable high price.

I am serious about these questions as I would really like to know your thoughts. I am skeptical but not above testing the waters myself.

cant lose when you are buying cards you like

[Americards]

Originally Posted by mchenrycards

Serious question......

How does the project 2020 sustain it's incredibly high returns on cards sold with print runs increasing with every issue. Sure, demand is currently outpacing supply but at some point, with these higher and higher print runs demand and supply are going to meet. Once we see that we will see the tailing off of prices.

It also appears so many people are investing in these cards by buying ten, twenty and even a hundred of these cards and holding them for a larger return down the road. At some point these investors will be cashing in and flooding the market which will reduce the overall secondary market prices for these cards (Let's just throw out the early cards with low print runs because we all know those will likely hold their value). Are the ones who are buying in large quantity worried about the devaluation of their investment when supply meets demand or are you slowly trickling out your stash of cards to the market place in hopes to take your profits when you can, even if they are not the huge profits you had hoped t make by holding onto these cards longer?

And it seems Topps has shipping issues as I know the only cards I purchased have still not shipped and it has been nearly four weeks. Are these shipping issues factoring into your buying in terms of not being able to trike while the iron is hot and losing out on sales because Topps cannot supply your cards in a reasonable amount of time?

I am just trying to wrap my mind around the resale market for these cards. I fully understand the demand for these works by the artists go way beyond the normal demand for sports cards but even then, the laws of supply and demand have to kick in somewhere and temper these sales. Are you guys who are buying these cards buying into the hype and HOPING for huge returns or do you have a real plan for buying low and selling at a comfortable high price.

I am serious about these questions as I would really like to know your thoughts. I am skeptical but not above testing the waters myself.

If the card sells for $40 you basically double your money if selling on ebay with fees and shipping

[Snakeonia]

rIP this seller. I missed by seconds



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[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by BurnerNotify

I'm surprised his cards have been so "clean" compared to his other stuff. This makes collecting Fucci that much more interesting to me. Waiting for him to slip some boobies into his cards without Topps detecting it.

If I posted any of his other work on BO I’d probably be suspended lol

[rippev]

When will we find out the print runs for Gooden and Trout from yesterday?

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by rippev

When will we find out the print runs for Gooden and Trout from yesterday?

33818 - Trout
25928 - Gooden

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by rippev

When will we find out the print runs for Gooden and Trout from yesterday?

25928 Gooden

33818 Trout

[Bob Ross]

Still room for all cards to grow is the crazy thing.

[ThoseBackPages]

still under 25% released

[Bronxbomma]

Let me add aside note since I started the convo:

In all likelihood, It’s not the artists themselves. It’s people around the trust. There is definitely an unfair disadvantage if you look at it for, that angle.

Agreed: Artists do it for notoriety and fame. People around them on the other hand will indulge for the monetary gain.


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[BurnerNotify]

Originally Posted by paperzach

The best thing about a card going up after you sell it is the elimination of buyer's remorse.

I want people who buy things from me to be PSYCHED about the deal.

It's also INSANE that cards that haven't even shipped from Topps are up 2,000%. The choice between money and morality is basically the defining choice of the human condition.

The best decision that I made in all of this was that when I was worried that a seller of my first secondary market card was going to cancel after it tripled overnight from $25 to $75, I bought another at $75.

I did the same exact thing. Problem is Shore's Gibson kept going up. I bought one for $75, then one at $150, then 2 at $200, then an AP for $450. Would be happy to get all, but will probably suffer some collateral damage. If (when) i get cancelled, i'm dropping the Negative feedback immediately.

[mlc3423]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

25928 Gooden

33818 Trout

I thought for sure the Trout would hit 40-50K

[AlexHunter]

Originally Posted by Bronxbomma

Forget bots,


These artists have their own dedicated project2020 web stores. How do we even confirm or know if these artists are playing favorites, indulging in nepotism, or engaged in bad practices by notifying close ones or buddies of launches dates of their artist proofs and 1/1, on their websites, only to have these same buddies sell them on 3rd party marketplaces for large returns?

Most are SOLD OUT. I have emailed Several with no response.

If you pay for efdot’s patreon he gives the release date and time. If you’re not a patreon member you won’t get an auto.


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[Bronxbomma]

Ermsy Trout sales over the last few days (1)


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[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

still under 25% released

I think we've been saying this since card 30, lol.....it's not like this project is going away soon and getting left by the wayside...the momentum is just starting

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If I posted any of his other work on BO I’d probably be suspended lol

I like the Betty Boop / Winnie the Pooh print.

[Acid Dock]

After a Ben Baller Ichiro sold today for $4000, there is inexplicably an Ichiro listed at $3000. I guess the seller needs cash in hand right now. Otherwise I can't explain leaving that much money on the table.

[Bronxbomma]

Ermsy Trout sales over the last few days (2)


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[Soxfanguy]

TBP you’re a Mets guy right?

[ALBASKETBALL]

Originally Posted by mchenrycards

Serious question......

How does the project 2020 sustain it's incredibly high returns on cards sold with print runs increasing with every issue. Sure, demand is currently outpacing supply but at some point, with these higher and higher print runs demand and supply are going to meet. Once we see that we will see the tailing off of prices.

It also appears so many people are investing in these cards by buying ten, twenty and even a hundred of these cards and holding them for a larger return down the road. At some point these investors will be cashing in and flooding the market which will reduce the overall secondary market prices for these cards (Let's just throw out the early cards with low print runs because we all know those will likely hold their value). Are the ones who are buying in large quantity worried about the devaluation of their investment when supply meets demand or are you slowly trickling out your stash of cards to the market place in hopes to take your profits when you can, even if they are not the huge profits you had hoped t make by holding onto these cards longer?

And it seems Topps has shipping issues as I know the only cards I purchased have still not shipped and it has been nearly four weeks. Are these shipping issues factoring into your buying in terms of not being able to trike while the iron is hot and losing out on sales because Topps cannot supply your cards in a reasonable amount of time?

I am just trying to wrap my mind around the resale market for these cards. I fully understand the demand for these works by the artists go way beyond the normal demand for sports cards but even then, the laws of supply and demand have to kick in somewhere and temper these sales. Are you guys who are buying these cards buying into the hype and HOPING for huge returns or do you have a real plan for buying low and selling at a comfortable high price.

I am serious about these questions as I would really like to know your thoughts. I am skeptical but not above testing the waters myself.

You are not going to lose money buying them in bulk at 10. You might not make x10 profit. You might not make 5x profit. But you should make some money.