2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[jmscoggin]

Originally Posted by chezball

JMS has made about three posts in this thread, two of them were to you. That's all I need to know.

Lest you feel neglected my friend, here is one to you. I have really, really tried to stay out of this thread and have surprisingly succeeded for the most part. The few times that I've popped my head in, I have been very pleasantly surprised by how civil, engaging and articulate almost everyone has been.

I love that we live in a society where we aren't all the same and I respect the opinions of others. What I don't like nor tolerate are those that get stuck in a loop of talking points and that flat refuse to acknowledge reality, inform themselves on the issues or listen to differing view points.

There is a reason that I've mostly responded to one person in this thread, that person is what is wrong with the world today and which side he is on makes no difference to me. I'd be saying the same things were he to be so in the dark on the other side as well.

I despise both mainstream political parties and candidates but one is clearly worse for the country than the other. As has been said way too many times, it is disgusting that in a country of 300+ million people, these buffoons are the best that we could put forth.

[jrinne17]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Turn into Donald Trump.

Even though she is already 100X worse than Trump? She makes Trump look like a decent human being compared to the things she's done.

[Nyfancam01]

Originally Posted by jrinne17

Even though she is already 100X worse than Trump? She makes Trump look like a decent human being compared to the things she done.

"False"

"Wrong"

(trump voice)

[pac213up]

Polls have certainly taken an interesting turn but the Hillary firewall states are still holding. Really should have a good idea by Friday where this thing stands. The Trump momentum has slowed the last two days. Seems like that may be the final push.

Looking forward to casting my vote against the Republican and Democratic parties.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Polls have certainly taken an interesting turn but the Hillary firewall states are still holding. Really should have a good idea by Friday where this thing stands. The Trump momentum has slowed the last two days. Seems like that may be the final push.

Looking forward to casting my vote against the Republican and Democratic parties.

It is pretty amazing Clinton's chances to win has dropped over 20% points since the last debate on the 19th of October. What seemed like a landslide has now turned into an interesting race. I am sure the Clinton camp is thinking Tuesday can't come fast enough. It didn't look like Trump could win Florida and Ohio, now it is very possible. He has a road to 270. One month ago, all he had was a round to like what 203 and only if everything went perfectly. I think some combination of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania need to flip red and holding on to Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina is needed for Trump to win. He is still the underdog.

[mnvikingstwins]

Trump still steadily gaining on 538. 65.6/34.2% now. It'll probably be closer than expected just with how incredibly biased most of the media reporting is. Just hopefully isn't too little too late with the FBI findings and how stupid some of the Hillary voters are anyways.

[mnvikingstwins]

Also betting line dropped to -250/+175. That'd be about a -6 spread in NFL

[HillbillyCletus]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Turn into Donald Trump.

Care to elaborate?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Polls have certainly taken an interesting turn but the Hillary firewall states are still holding. Really should have a good idea by Friday where this thing stands. The Trump momentum has slowed the last two days. Seems like that may be the final push.

Looking forward to casting my vote against the Republican and Democratic parties.

New Hampshire breaking. Three straight polls coming in for Trump, the last +5. With all the other states, that puts Trump at 266 (Assuming he holds 'em).

VA / PA / MI / WI / MN / CO / NM ... doesn't anybody have any missiles left!

[azdbacks1998]

For someone who isnt into politics and is still undecided .....can someone please give me 2 non-bias facts (not dirt, or gossip)....FACTS about both candidates, and why one will better than the other for our country?

Hillary:
1.
2.

Trump
1.
2.

Reason:


Go.

[mnvikingstwins]

64.8/35.2 now. Silver keeps trending Trump, not really sure it stops

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

64.8/35.2 now. Silver keeps trending Trump, not really sure it stops

Every tweet the last two weeks is him hedging his bets. Polling isn't accurate, news cycles destroying voter confidence etc. etc.

Who wants to bet come election day, his model will show an exact 50/50 split?!

[Halbert]

Let the battleship loose damnit. Fire those cannons!!

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Every tweet the last two weeks is him hedging his bets. Polling isn't accurate, news cycles destroying voter confidence etc. etc.

Who wants to bet come election day, his model will show an exact 50/50 split?!

Yeah, I think he's within 45/55 either way

[mnvikingstwins]

Trump was slight winner in first MN high school poll, so hopefully it is closer than the current 80/20 that Silver has for the fraud

[Nyfancam01]

I hope so badly that if it is super closer and he does win the popular vote... .. ... I hope she still wins the electoral college. I will have PLENTY of fun with that

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Nyfancam01

I hope so badly that if it is super closer and he does win the popular vote... .. ... I hope she still wins the electoral college. I will have PLENTY of fun with that

Nice to see you changing sides and cheering for Trump!

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by jmscoggin

Lest you feel neglected my friend, here is one to you. I have really, really tried to stay out of this thread and have surprisingly succeeded for the most part. The few times that I've popped my head in, I have been very pleasantly surprised by how civil, engaging and articulate almost everyone has been.

I love that we live in a society where we aren't all the same and I respect the opinions of others. What I don't like nor tolerate are those that get stuck in a loop of talking points and that flat refuse to acknowledge reality, inform themselves on the issues or listen to differing view points.

There is a reason that I've mostly responded to one person in this thread, that person is what is wrong with the world today and which side he is on makes no difference to me. I'd be saying the same things were he to be so in the dark on the other side as well.

I despise both mainstream political parties and candidates but one is clearly worse for the country than the other. As has been said way too many times, it is disgusting that in a country of 300+ million people, these buffoons are the best that we could put forth.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

It is pretty amazing Clinton's chances to win has dropped over 20% points since the last debate on the 19th of October. What seemed like a landslide has now turned into an interesting race. I am sure the Clinton camp is thinking Tuesday can't come fast enough. It didn't look like Trump could win Florida and Ohio, now it is very possible. He has a road to 270. One month ago, all he had was a round to like what 203 and only if everything went perfectly. I think some combination of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania need to flip red and holding on to Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina is needed for Trump to win. He is still the underdog.

Trump has consistently done well in Ohio, Florida has really been back and forth. I think the gap in MI, WI, and PA is too far for him to really get what he needs though at this point and NC & FL are still in play for Clinton. The Dems can really focus resources at this point.

[mnvikingstwins]

65.9/34.0 now. Hopefully just from one bad poll and not that he hit the ceiling already

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by pac213up

Trump has consistently done well in Ohio, Florida has really been back and forth. I think the gap in MI, WI, and PA is too far for him to really get what he needs though at this point and NC & FL are still in play for Clinton. The Dems can really focus resources at this point.

At this point he just needs to shift Colorado and he won't need MI, WI, and PA.

[ssbledsoe]

Originally Posted by azdbacks1998

For someone who isnt into politics and is still undecided .....can someone please give me 2 non-bias facts (not dirt, or gossip)....FACTS about both candidates, and why one will better than the other for our country?

Hillary:
1. Recently decided to stop supporting TPP
2. Recently decided to support marriage equality

Trump
1. Does not support TPP despite mfg most of his clothing line in asia
2. Wants to build a "wall"

Reason:
They're both equally bad for the country. We're screwed either way.


Go.

.....

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

At this point he just needs to shift Colorado and he won't need MI, WI, and PA.

You are right (or New Hampshire). His road to 270 is gradually becoming smoother. He must keep Florida, Ohio, NC (29,18,15 EVs). Ohio seems likely, the other two are toss ups. He has no margin for error. I can't seem him making up those votes on other states, particularly Florida. I am assuming he is on full blitz campaign mode down there (Probably Clinton to).

[tke1600]

Hillary is having another great day with #HillaryIndictment trending worldwide. Hopefully it comes in the next couple of days so there is no funky business on Tuesday.

[ntgm37]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

You are right (or New Hampshire). His road to 270 is gradually becoming smoother. He must keep Florida, Ohio, NC (29,18,15 EVs). Ohio seems likely, the other two are toss ups. He has no margin for error. I can't seem him making up those votes on other states, particularly Florida. I am assuming he is on full blitz campaign mode down there (Probably Clinton to).

He was in Orlando yesterday, and had a pretty nice turn out.