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Old 04-23-2020, 10:38 PM   #10776
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Lil’ Cuomo is the biggest d-bag on tv and i say that as someone who has watched Pres. Trump talk for an hour+ everyday for the last month.

The staged Corona bs alongside his trying-too-hard workout short videos are so incredibly cringeworthy that i was almost embarrassed for the guy.
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Old 04-23-2020, 10:46 PM   #10777
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I seem to only post in here when I am a few whiskeys deep so please forgive me...

Regarding praise for Cuomo...Do any supporters find it comical his errors made throughout this? Ventilators, the Mercy ship, hospitals and supplies, etc?

Maddow blasted Trump saying he would not get the ship there in time. Said it was not happening. It did.

Pelosi bragging about her tough living conditions at home.

AOC cheering others bad luck.

To criticize a sitting President for making mistakes during one of the roughest times this country has ever seen is evil and ignorant. He is 100% damned if you do damned if you don't at this point. The media has created a firestorm that makes this an impossible task to try and conquer especially if they are out to get you. The left is a delusional group.

What Democratic leader has stepped up and made an altering decision here? Name me one...TO me it seems like all effort has been put on waiting for a speech from 45 and a slip up to criticize. How about they make an effort to help???
Not their style. They would rather sit on the sidelines and take pot shots at him. Awful human beings. It is exactly what I expected from them.
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:00 PM   #10778
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I have avoided this thread like the plague, and I don't care who any of you support.

I just wanted to say that if you can't laugh at Trumps suggestions of getting light inside the body (either through the skin or....through another way) and getting disinfectant INSIDE THE LUNGS to 'do a tremendous number', then there is no hope for you.
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I have avoided this thread like the plague, and I don't care who any of you support.

I just wanted to say that if you can't laugh at Trumps suggestions of getting light inside the body (either through the skin or....through another way) and getting disinfectant INSIDE THE LUNGS to 'do a tremendous number', then there is no hope for you.
Didn't see it, but it sounds ridiculous. Trump has had some really good LOL moments. Still no way I could vote for the other guy.
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Didn't see it, but it sounds ridiculous. Trump has had some really good LOL moments. Still no way I could vote for the other guy.
I honestly think I'm going to abstain this year.
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Old 04-23-2020, 11:41 PM   #10781
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What Democratic leader has stepped up and made an altering decision here? Name me one...TO me it seems like all effort has been put on waiting for a speech from 45 and a slip up to criticize. How about they make an effort to help???
They did try to help, and then a bunch of Republican Senators refused to remove this dangerously incompetent President for something some of them even openly acknowledged that he did. With a President Pence, the response would've still likely been slow, but at least once we were in this soup, he wouldn't have been actively hindering our recovery with increasingly bizarre daily nonsense.

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They did try to help, and then a bunch of Republican Senators refused to remove this dangerously incompetent President for something some of them even openly acknowledged that he did. With a President Pence, the response would've still likely been slow, but at least once we were in this soup, he wouldn't have been actively hindering our recovery with increasingly bizarre daily nonsense.

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So none of them stepped up to help and you want to re-litigate impeachment now. Gotcha.
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I think earlier everyone on both sides agreed (or at least no one disagreed) that Trump is not a good person. After that latest clip, can we also all agree he's a moron?
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You hear that NJ ... listen to your governor. Beg at the feet of the all powerful wizard!

Federal government, state employees. Hmmm
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So none of them stepped up to help and you want to re-litigate impeachment now. Gotcha.
The premise of the post I responded to was ridiculous.

California citizens widely approve of the response efforts of Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, and Eric Garcetti, to name just three.

Trump's approval, meanwhile, sits in the low 40s percentage-wise, and an increasing number of even his most ardent supporters are finally realizing he is not helpful where the virus is concerned, and are wisely seeking information elsewhere.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:15 AM   #10786
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Disgusting but doesn't surprise me.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:16 AM   #10787
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I seem to only post in here when I am a few whiskeys deep so please forgive me...

Regarding praise for Cuomo...Do any supporters find it comical his errors made throughout this? Ventilators, the Mercy ship, hospitals and supplies, etc?

Maddow blasted Trump saying he would not get the ship there in time. Said it was not happening. It did.

Pelosi bragging about her tough living conditions at home.

AOC cheering others bad luck.

To criticize a sitting President for making mistakes during one of the roughest times this country has ever seen is evil and ignorant. He is 100% damned if you do damned if you don't at this point. The media has created a firestorm that makes this an impossible task to try and conquer especially if they are out to get you. The left is a delusional group.

What Democratic leader has stepped up and made an altering decision here? Name me one...TO me it seems like all effort has been put on waiting for a speech from 45 and a slip up to criticize. How about they make an effort to help???
Cuomo has lead the states in getting funding, testing and supplies. Cuomo publically bashed the feds to get them to do something; guess what? They did. The feds sent equipment, supplies and ventilators to NYC, much more and faster than what they wanted. Cuomo called them out and got a good response.
He doesn't give his opinion on much, but he doesn't let the facts intercede with his opinion.
Cuomo shut down the first state as well. NY was closed before any other state.

Trump shut out people from China from the country and that is probably the best move that helped our country.
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Cuomo has lead the states in getting funding, testing and supplies. Cuomo publically bashed the feds to get them to do something; guess what? They did. The feds sent equipment, supplies and ventilators to NYC, much more and faster than what they wanted. Cuomo called them out and got a good response.
He doesn't give his opinion on much, but he doesn't let the facts intercede with his opinion.
Cuomo shut down the first state as well. NY was closed before any other state.

Trump shut out people from China from the country and that is probably the best move that helped our country.
cali was first.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:32 AM   #10789
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Lil’ Cuomo is the biggest d-bag on tv and i say that as someone who has watched Pres. Trump talk for an hour+ everyday for the last month.

The staged Corona bs alongside his trying-too-hard workout short videos are so incredibly cringeworthy that i was almost embarrassed for the guy.

Prickzter is a close runner up

I’ve seriously looked into moving to Indiana because of him
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Trump shut out people from China from the country and that is probably the best move that helped our country.
Well, except for the 40,000 people that came in from China (including directly from Wuhan) after the "ban".

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-tr...deb1ce0b3.html

Beyond that, at the time that action was taken, Trump still didn't think the virus was a big deal, so he must've had some other (very likely self-serving) reason for imposing that restriction in the first place.
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Old 04-24-2020, 12:41 AM   #10791
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Well, except for the 40,000 people that came in from China (including directly from Wuhan) after the "ban".

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-tr...deb1ce0b3.html

Beyond that, at the time that action was taken, Trump still didn't think the virus was a big deal, so he must've had some other (very likely self-serving) reason for imposing that restriction in the first place.
Article needs to be specific about those people. Are they U.S citizens going back to the US?

We are in agreement that he used it to fulfill BS.
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Beyond that, at the time that action was taken, Trump still didn't think the virus was a big deal, so he must've had some other (very likely self-serving) reason for imposing that restriction in the first place.
What reason?
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As per our President's time-honored modus operandi, it could literally be any reason other than the one he gave.

I'm not willing to guess at it, lest I inadvertently promote some nonsensical conspiracy.
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As per our President's time-honored modus operandi, it could literally be any reason other than the one he gave.

I'm not willing to guess at it, lest I inadvertently promote some nonsensical conspiracy.
Figured.
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He won't inject you with bleach as you lay in a tanning bed with the cooling fans removed.

Yeah but does he want to raise my taxes?
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Yeah but does he want to raise my taxes?
Whether or not he wants to raise your taxes is irrelevant, this $4 trillion Coronavirus stimulus program and the 30 million newly unemployed will require someone to raise taxes.

We can't kick this can down the road forever.
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Whether or not he wants to raise your taxes is irrelevant, this $4 trillion Coronavirus stimulus program and the 30 million newly unemployed will require someone to raise taxes.

We can't kick this can down the road forever.

We should make China pay for it

Them covering up the virus caused this
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I seem to only post in here when I am a few whiskeys deep so please forgive me...

Regarding praise for Cuomo...Do any supporters find it comical his errors made throughout this? Ventilators, the Mercy ship, hospitals and supplies, etc?

Maddow blasted Trump saying he would not get the ship there in time. Said it was not happening. It did.

Pelosi bragging about her tough living conditions at home.

AOC cheering others bad luck.

To criticize a sitting President for making mistakes during one of the roughest times this country has ever seen is evil and ignorant. He is 100% damned if you do damned if you don't at this point. The media has created a firestorm that makes this an impossible task to try and conquer especially if they are out to get you. The left is a delusional group.

What Democratic leader has stepped up and made an altering decision here? Name me one...TO me it seems like all effort has been put on waiting for a speech from 45 and a slip up to criticize. How about they make an effort to help???
Washington and California are doing quite well, despite lack of help from the rest of the country and basically being ridiculed for being the first states to start shelter in place. I havent looked but Inslee and Newsom approval ratings have to be sky high


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States are dependent on tax revenue to pay state employees. State revenue is down / non existent at the moment, Fed is the only one with power to print money, so yeah they need help.

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Well, except for the 40,000 people that came in from China (including directly from Wuhan) after the "ban".

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-tr...deb1ce0b3.html

Beyond that, at the time that action was taken, Trump still didn't think the virus was a big deal, so he must've had some other (very likely self-serving) reason for imposing that restriction in the first place.
Correct. Also, it was already spread in Europe and even in the US. Locking the front door while leaving the back door open, while the burglars are already in the house, isn’t a solution that deserves a high five and “let’s call it a night”


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Yeah but does he want to raise my taxes
Honestly who cares about taxes in the next several years. Every month we go without being able to live life normally costs way more than a tax hike.

Also, we’re already at the point where our deficit is equivalent to a small mortgage for every US citizen. They’ll keep printing imaginary money until we’re all dead.
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You own a business, correct?
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