Deshaun Watson Prices - Page 43

Onepocketj · 01-07-2021, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Well this would be one way his card values could spike....

Imagine the haul Houston could get for this guy.

It honestly could be a win for both of them.

Vinny1984 · 01-07-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by heatdawg

I agree with you Vinny. But we have to take into account this is where sports are headed in general. Players are getting more control every year. Look at the NBA, the players run the league 100%. I really hope the NFL never gets to where the NBA is. The reason the NFL is so special to me still is because of the parity. Any year, any team can win it all. Also, I believe football is the greatest team sport that there is.

I hope Deshaun does not force his way out but I would not blame him so much either with how the franchise has been run around him. But in general, loyalty is a dying breed these days.

Yeah I completely agree. I can pretty easily see both sides of it. Loyalty is all but dead from both employers and employees for a plethora of reasons. Like you said, I just don’t want the NFL to go the way of the NBA where tampering is rampant.

Vinny1984 · 01-07-2021, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by schism

Prices double.

More. Cam Newton prices went 5x-10x when he signed with the Pats.

Mikeh6480 · 01-07-2021, 12:22 PM

Watson isnt leaving Houston... Watts will get traded. Deshaun knew before he signed a contract. Has he came out and said anything about the new GM?

Mattsurewood · 01-07-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Singinbobbo

How drastically do you think it affects his market if he is traded to a contender?

As a fan of the Washington Football Team, I will say a prayer each night before bed..the young up and coming defense with Watson/McLaurin would be insane.

tjforce · 01-07-2021, 12:55 PM

What would a legitimate package have to look like for Houston to move him?

A top of the draft 1st rounder to pick his replacement, plus 2 more future first rounders, and additional picks/players?

packman80 · 01-07-2021, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

What would a legitimate package have to look like for Houston to move him?

A top of the draft 1st rounder to pick his replacement, plus 2 more future first rounders, and additional picks/players?

I think unless it's a team that is picking in top 5-10 giving up their pick this year and giving up couple other first probably a 2nd this year and a young player or two with upside why should Houston consider it.

packman80 · 01-07-2021, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

As a fan of the Washington Football Team, I will say a prayer each night before bed..the young up and coming defense with Watson/McLaurin would be insane.

Unless Chase Young is coming back to Houston washington has nothing to interest me if I am Houston. Late 1st round pick this year so yeah pass on they have assets that Houston would want.

Singinbobbo · 01-07-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

What would a legitimate package have to look like for Houston to move him?

A top of the draft 1st rounder to pick his replacement, plus 2 more future first rounders, and additional picks/players?

Miami trades Houston their first and second back, a first next year and Tua...who says no?

packman80 · 01-07-2021, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Singinbobbo

Miami trades Houston their first and second back, a first next year and Tua...who says no?

Thing is trading Watson would be PR nightmare for Texans. Heck it sounds like JJ Watt wants out and that would be a big enough hit trading him and he's at the end of his career.

tjforce · 01-07-2021, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Singinbobbo

Miami trades Houston their first and second back, a first next year and Tua...who says no?

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Originally Posted by packman80

Thing is trading Watson would be PR nightmare for Texans. Heck it sounds like JJ Watt wants out and that would be a big enough hit trading him and he's at the end of his career.

It would probably make sense if not for the Miami PR thing.

But would you take the Jets #2 pick, 2 additional first rounders, and some piece-parts for Watson?

Draft Fields, put some pieces around him, and look for a legit rebuild in 2-3 years.

I'm not sure I'd do it from the Houston POV, but it's something to consider.

Paderborn1907 · 01-07-2021, 01:53 PM

I‘d be fine for the Broncos to give up 3 x 1st rounders plus Lock for Watson.

Watson would get some nice weapons in that offense (Sutton, Jeudy, Fant, Hamler, Patrick] ...

Singinbobbo · 01-07-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

It would probably make sense if not for the Miami PR thing.

But would you take the Jets #2 pick, 2 additional first rounders, and some piece-parts for Watson?

Draft Fields, put some pieces around him, and look for a legit rebuild in 2-3 years.

I'm not sure I'd do it from the Houston POV, but it's something to consider.

I feel Watson would have some say in where he’d be traded and there’s no way he’d go to the Jets

Singinbobbo · 01-07-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Paderborn1907

I‘d be fine for the Broncos to give up 3 x 1st rounders plus Lock for Watson.

Watson would get some nice weapons in that offense (Sutton, Jeudy, Fant, Hamler, Patrick] ...

Denver definitely a possibility

hilg2347 · 01-07-2021, 02:45 PM

I think without a doubt a change of scenery would help out his hobby love and even more so his chances of a playoff run.. Guy is talented and improving. I do believe the stats were quite padded though playing from behind all season long with no choice but to air it out. He also had some weapons in Cooks and Fuller (for most of the season). Fuller will be getting PAID else where this off-season and Cooks has had 1,000 yard rec years with NO, NE, LA and HOU. He's no slouch, with concussions that held him back from an even better career.

If he doesn't get traded, I just see more exciting Matty Stafford for the next 3-4 years. Colts are well built team top to bottom and will attract a new vet QB after Rivers, Titans are well coached and talented team and Jax prob has the best position to improve out of anyone in the NFL next year. With Hou lack of picks and cap problem - I don't see how they get more help on defense and replace the loss of Fuller. If you are vying for 3rd or even 4th place in the AFC South - how long can he hold off hobby purgatory a la Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, etc?

I know the hope is this isn't the case and his talent certainly doesn't warrant this - but this is a real possibility. I think betting on Watson is saying he is going to take it to yet another level and solely carry this team to 10+ wins somehow.

tjforce · 01-07-2021, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Singinbobbo

I feel Watson would have some say in where he’d be traded and there’s no way he’d go to the Jets

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Originally Posted by Singinbobbo

Denver definitely a possibility

Yea... it would sort of be the same situation he's in now if he went there.

I just don't see Houston making this trade unless they are fairly certain they are getting their QB of the future in the deal, most likely through a high draft pick. Watson would probably big the biggest trade made in the last 30 years, so they'd want to make sure they didn't deal him and just trade down for a bunch of less important positions without ever figuring out QB.

So many moving parts is what I don't think it would happen, but you never know, there is probably at least one team that would go Hershel Walker/Ricky Williams and give up 8-10 total draft picks for the guy.

BRob1 · 01-07-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

What would a legitimate package have to look like for Houston to move him?

A top of the draft 1st rounder to pick his replacement, plus 2 more future first rounders, and additional picks/players?

honestly it would have to be something like 3 firsts within this year and next, with one of them being a top 3-5 pick, along with multiple 2nd/3rd/4th over the next two years.

The only team that can swing that without him going to just as bad a situation as he’s in now would be Miami.

Miami gives:

3rd overall
18th overall
next years first
this years 3rd
next years second

you could swap tua for either 18 or next years first if houston wants him, otherwise miami needs to make another separate deal to move tua.

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Singinbobbo · 01-07-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Yea... it would sort of be the same situation he's in now if he went there.

I just don't see Houston making this trade unless they are fairly certain they are getting their QB of the future in the deal, most likely through a high draft pick. Watson would probably big the biggest trade made in the last 30 years, so they'd want to make sure they didn't deal him and just trade down for a bunch of less important positions without ever figuring out QB.

So many moving parts is what I don't think it would happen, but you never know, there is probably at least one team that would go Hershel Walker/Ricky Williams and give up 8-10 total draft picks for the guy.

As a Niners fan, I’d trade the farm for him. I’d even give bosa. This guy is a generational talent. We’re good at finding other guys at the other positions.

kyle1707 · 01-07-2021, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fratboy

Watson is most certainly the better NFL QB

watson without question over murray... not even close..

Running around is so new and cool.. lamar kyler hurts at a young age are winning games with legs... it is fun to watch

But.....

It wont last... never has and never will....

What wins.. is eilte arm and size and accuracy... Who has that... D Watson...

schism · 01-07-2021, 04:47 PM

PSA 10 Prizm RC's back up to $700-$750 today. XRC PSA 10 BIN's of $749 and $899(pwcc) hit. There's an XRC PSA 10 still listed at $865 OBO.

Fratboy · 01-07-2021, 06:59 PM

Starting up another Watson rainbow
Picked up a tough one today

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chasacar86 · 01-07-2021, 07:48 PM

Not that anyone will care and I have no idea how the numbers check out.

But why would you trade Watson? One of his bailouts he gets is not having a top WR.

I propose:

Browns trade:
OBJ

Texans trade:
Watt
3rd rd

JJ now 2 hours from his brothers and gets to see them at least twice per season (three if it were this year, tehe). And he's on a contender. I'm sure he's way overpaid so maybe some restructuring...but not like Odell is a small cap hit (from what I hear...this is a zero research spitball).

Can rotate in to save wear and tear and I'm sure he'd love playing alongside Myles to make his job slightly easier.

boxbuster7 · 01-07-2021, 07:55 PM

The rams should go after Deshaun Watson - they could use a real quarterback

Fratboy · 01-07-2021, 07:58 PM

I would love to see the WFT make a run for Watson.

They could be dangerous, with Watson, Scary Terry and that DLine

I think Rivera could do some good things in Washington, with a player like Watson.

Singinbobbo · 01-07-2021, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chasacar86

Not that anyone will care and I have no idea how the numbers check out.

But why would you trade Watson? One of his bailouts he gets is not having a top WR.

I propose:

Browns trade:
OBJ

Texans trade:
Watt
3rd rd

JJ now 2 hours from his brothers and gets to see them at least twice per season (three if it were this year, tehe). And he's on a contender. I'm sure he's way overpaid so maybe some restructuring...but not like Odell is a small cap hit (from what I hear...this is a zero research spitball).

Can rotate in to save wear and tear and I'm sure he'd love playing alongside Myles to make his job slightly easier.

They definitely don’t need Odell there. Receiver is not the issue

01-07-2021, 12:55 PM	#1056
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01-07-2021, 04:47 PM	#1070
schism Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 289	PSA 10 Prizm RC's back up to $700-$750 today. XRC PSA 10 BIN's of $749 and $899(pwcc) hit. There's an XRC PSA 10 still listed at $865 OBO. __________________ "PWCC: where you pay 400% of the price for 97% of the card." - mjohnatgt

01-07-2021, 07:55 PM	#1073
boxbuster7 Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 12,758 boxbuster777	The rams should go after Deshaun Watson - they could use a real quarterback __________________ Psa 9 > psa 10

01-07-2021, 12:22 PM	#1054
Mikeh6480 Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 887	Watson isnt leaving Houston... Watts will get traded. Deshaun knew before he signed a contract. Has he came out and said anything about the new GM?

01-07-2021, 01:53 PM	#1062
Paderborn1907 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 546	I‘d be fine for the Broncos to give up 3 x 1st rounders plus Lock for Watson. Watson would get some nice weapons in that offense (Sutton, Jeudy, Fant, Hamler, Patrick] ...

01-07-2021, 02:45 PM	#1065
hilg2347 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 395	I think without a doubt a change of scenery would help out his hobby love and even more so his chances of a playoff run.. Guy is talented and improving. I do believe the stats were quite padded though playing from behind all season long with no choice but to air it out. He also had some weapons in Cooks and Fuller (for most of the season). Fuller will be getting PAID else where this off-season and Cooks has had 1,000 yard rec years with NO, NE, LA and HOU. He's no slouch, with concussions that held him back from an even better career. If he doesn't get traded, I just see more exciting Matty Stafford for the next 3-4 years. Colts are well built team top to bottom and will attract a new vet QB after Rivers, Titans are well coached and talented team and Jax prob has the best position to improve out of anyone in the NFL next year. With Hou lack of picks and cap problem - I don't see how they get more help on defense and replace the loss of Fuller. If you are vying for 3rd or even 4th place in the AFC South - how long can he hold off hobby purgatory a la Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, etc? I know the hope is this isn't the case and his talent certainly doesn't warrant this - but this is a real possibility. I think betting on Watson is saying he is going to take it to yet another level and solely carry this team to 10+ wins somehow.

01-07-2021, 06:59 PM	#1071
Fratboy Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,536	Starting up another Watson rainbow Picked up a tough one today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-07-2021, 07:48 PM	#1072
chasacar86 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 9,159	Not that anyone will care and I have no idea how the numbers check out. But why would you trade Watson? One of his bailouts he gets is not having a top WR. I propose: Browns trade: OBJ Texans trade: Watt 3rd rd JJ now 2 hours from his brothers and gets to see them at least twice per season (three if it were this year, tehe). And he's on a contender. I'm sure he's way overpaid so maybe some restructuring...but not like Odell is a small cap hit (from what I hear...this is a zero research spitball). Can rotate in to save wear and tear and I'm sure he'd love playing alongside Myles to make his job slightly easier.

01-07-2021, 07:58 PM	#1074
Fratboy Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Posts: 2,536	I would love to see the WFT make a run for Watson. They could be dangerous, with Watson, Scary Terry and that DLine I think Rivera could do some good things in Washington, with a player like Watson.