The burlap is back! First Buzz: 2017 Topps Heritage baseball cards (will update)

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

I believe the long odds ones are /25. The exclusive stuff for bunt brings the bunt guys out in droves. They move very fast and at crazy prices.

EDIT*- I thought you were talking about the player specific ones.

they don't make player specific anymore

[rotoblueprint]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

same thing as the base topps one, they are for a pack of bunt
they sell like $1 each sometimes $1.20 in lots

Wow, really?! At 1:313 odds? Whats the point? Figured it was a marketing thing before, but cant be if the odds are so poor.

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by pnft17

We're black and whites only in 2015

yes
same year flip stock debuted

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

One auto.. would love to see some of these breakers faces when they open there cases for 900 dollars

well, there are other things in the case, but yes, like I said should range from 1-3, BUT avg should be like 2.5 autos per case based on odds

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

One auto.. would love to see some of these breakers faces when they open there cases for 900 dollars

well, there are other things in the case, but yes, like I said should range from 1-3, BUT avg should be like 2.5 autos per case based on odds

and not everyone paid $900 or even $700 as you know

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

One auto.. would love to see some of these breakers faces when they open there cases for 900 dollars

LOL I agree.

That said after release I think were going to see a little bit of a down arrow. I do agree now demand is 100% there. But some of the conversations I have had this weekend would suggest it settles around $800-825/cs after the first week or two. That $900+ demand may not last super long.

Could be wrong but $800-825 a case is still a really good sale for the big guys.

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

LOL I agree.

That said after release I think were going to see a little bit of a down arrow. I do agree now demand is 100% there. But some of the conversations I have had this weekend would suggest it settles around $800-825/cs after the first week or two. That $900+ demand may not last super long.

Could be wrong but $800-825 a case is still a really good sale for the big guys.

I say once the autos start popping it goes $1k or higher, the auto checklist is just too solid
could be wrong, as the good autos may not fall too often, but some folks be chasing sp autos and ssp throwbacks, even if they take 20 cases for 1

[rutgersjpm]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

One auto.. would love to see some of these breakers faces when they open there cases for 900 dollars

If only hitting one auto in a case means a throwback is in there instead of a second auto, SIGN ME UP.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

I wish they would bring back Black & White
the flip stock is hard to explain and many just don't care, but the black & white were easily noticed and sold better, even though both were equally tough

Agree, 100%....I liked the B&W, not a flip stock fan. Just like 'Blank Back", not sure the if the bright yellow and gray will sell that great (should say as good as they should with low print runs).....they may not present, imo.

I think I'm just going to open my cases, once I get a nice sized stack, tilt them so I can see the color differential for greys and brights....worked with flip stock.

[ThoseBackPages]

and when the ripper rip for the "auto mojo", what becomes of the watered down base? CHEAPER master sets!

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by rutgersjpm

If only hitting one auto in a case means a throwback is in there instead of a second auto, SIGN ME UP.

This, no doubt

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

I say once the autos start popping it goes $1k or higher, the auto checklist is just too solid
could be wrong, as the good autos may not fall too often, but some folks be chasing sp autos and ssp throwbacks, even if they take 20 cases for 1

Definately have to see. Maybe I'm just too old school thinking of it in terms of low end v mid level. Even when I wasn't preordering I wasn't buying products like ginter at a g case more or less heritage. Again, maybe too old school with the thought process.

Were going to see Jake Thompson Joe Musgrove cases.....its just how many.

[pnft17]

The breakers for the most part are so clueless to heritage. Very few even know what to look for. And they don't even show all cards on camera. Just shuffle through as fast as possible. I just want to scream at idiots. Or why no one in the break Doesn't call out the breaker. They always beak and say I don't know what to even look for. They are so busy taking people's money for the break. They can't spend 15-20 minutes looking over info to find what to look for. Ok off my pet peeve rant. It worse for ginter when breaker drops every mini and doesn't even bother showing backs of them. Ugh!!!

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by rutgersjpm

If only hitting one auto in a case means a throwback is in there instead of a second auto, SIGN ME UP.

that is exactly what he said!
I agree
although throwbacks should be softer this year and autos better
but yes, although be nice to have 2 autos and a throwback haha

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Definately have to see. Maybe I'm just too old school thinking of it in terms of low end v mid level. Even when I wasn't preordering I wasn't buying products like ginter at a g case more or less heritage. Again, maybe too old school with the thought process.

Were going to see Jake Thompson Joe Musgrove cases.....its just how many.

I don't disagree with your comments at all, BUT just look at last yea's prices, and it was not as good (at least on paper) as this year; it was a GREAT year, but this year has more content and better names, so we shall see

oh, and the extra 400 or so cases pretty much sold already so not a ton left out there

[ThoseBackPages]

Brent, any word on RC Actions?

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by pnft17

The breakers for the most part are so clueless to heritage. Very few even know what to look for. And they don't even show all cards on camera. Just shuffle through as fast as possible. I just want to scream at idiots. Or why no one in the break Doesn't call out the breaker. They always beak and say I don't know what to even look for. They are so busy taking people's money for the break. They can't spend 15-20 minutes looking over info to find what to look for. Ok off my pet peeve rant. It worse for ginter when breaker drops every mini and doesn't even bother showing backs of them. Ugh!!!

and it takes LONG time to break, so most prefer the easier to open, easier to sort/ship and higher return high-end stuff
but this is unfortunate for products such as TH, but surely some know what to look for, it's just not easy, I know what to look for it and seems to take me forever...can't imagine on camera

[brentandbecca]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Brent, any word on RC Actions?

they exist

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

they exist

YAS!!!!!!!!

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

I don't disagree with your comments at all, BUT just look at last yea's prices, and it was not as good (at least on paper) as this year; it was a GREAT year, but this year has more content and better names, so we shall see

oh, and the extra 400 or so cases pretty much sold already so not a ton left out there

Yup, guess it could just be one of those years where the rookie class just carriers products North. At least the early ones before guys have a chance to boom or bust.

[rutgersjpm]

Originally Posted by brentandbecca

they exist

This right here might be the reason why I rip as opposed to just flip.

[oldgoldy97]

Surprised nobody has been "that guy" and posted a fake break thread yet.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Surprised nobody has been "that guy" and posted a fake break thread yet.

This isn't bowman . Most the guys I see in the thread have been here a while.

[parkerj33]

Originally Posted by cj828282

Do we know if these odds are from generic, WM, or Target boxes? I think this is generic.

Keep in mind the retail odds will vary bydistribution method...while the sp and insert odds will likely be identical to hobby, all the other card types will vary for hanger boxes vs. blaster boxes, vs. regular retail packs (24ct boxes) vs. jumbo packs (the gravity feed packs).

Retail used to be simpler with only two methods: 24 ct box packs and and blaster packs. Now there are at least 4 disty methods, PLUS the target/walmart blasters.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

This isn't bowman . Most the guys I see in the thread have been here a while.

Lol. I guess it usually is Bowman, isn't it