2016 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - All Politics & Dumb Opinions Here

[JosieD]

Well, whatever happens next week, I wish you all well. I hope we can work together and make our country better. We need to be united. Most importantly, we need to protect one another from violence that may come out of this. I will respect whomever wins the position of President of the USA, no matter who is elected.

The price manipulation is coming from the stores before Hilary even takes office. How is that justificable? What did they say would happen if Trump wins? They are probably going to raise prices regardless.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by jstephens24

I don't understand why people say lock the thread....if you don't like it then stay out

I think people want the thread locked after the election.

[Ray27Ray52]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

I think people want the thread locked after the election.

I hope this thread is never locked because it would be nice to discuss politics after the election. There is no question that no matter who is elected President the choices they make will be contentious. It would be nice to be able to converse with everyone constructively as this thread has been for the most part.

All of that being said I am pretty sure it will be locked. I don't think Houds ever intended for these types of discussions to be a permanent fixture on the forum. I just wanted to thank Houdini again for making this possible. It took alot of balls to approach BO with this idea when he first suggested it I am sure.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by jrinne17

Ha, I would expect you to say this.

Yes....because it is logical.

[Bronco Buster]

And now comes word the DOJ told the FBI to stand down in regards to the new e-mail investigation and the FBI refused feeling the public had the right to know more evidence had come up.

And yet people still think that meeting between Bill Clinton and the head of the DOJ was just about golf.

According to the Journal, one senior Justice Deparmtent official voiced his displeasure that agents from New York were still pursuing the Clinton Foundation case during the election season. A source close to the investigation said the official was “very pissed off.”

Some officials believed the heated exchange showed how the FBI was eager to go all out in the Clinton Foundation case and a Justice Department that just wanted to get it over with.

Further down the FBI chain of command, agents painted a darker image. They told the Journal they were ultimately told to “stand down” and weren’t allowed to take a more aggressive pursuit and they heard that the order was coming straight from the DOJ.

Investigators were stalled again in September after requesting to search nongovernment laptops in part of the Clinton email investigation. The emails were only allowed to be reviewed with the purpose of investigating possible mishandling of classified information.

Soon after that decision, Comey informed FBI leadership about the contents discovered on former Rep. Anthony Weiner’s laptop, which led to Friday’s letter to House Republicans.

A source told Fox News on Sunday that an analysis of the metadata on Weiner’s computer has turned up “positive hits for state.gov and HRC emails,” which led Comey to revisit the FBI investigation into Clinton using a private email server system while secretary of state. A second law enforcement source confirmed the account.

[TheHeel]

I hope this thread will keep going for the years to come.

[tke1600]

This is getting ugly fast. Donna Brazile caught giving another debate question to HRC against Bernie (#Podestaemails24), the DOJ getting caught red handed trying to cover this up, 650,000 emails on Weiner's computer, and the Clinton Foundation under active FBI investigation on top of everything. Oh, and I have also heard the word weiner way too many times the past 2 days. Trump is still +250 on most betting sites if you like free money.

[JohnRyno]

Originally Posted by Ray27Ray52

I hope this thread is never locked because it would be nice to discuss politics after the election. There is no question that no matter who is elected President the choices they make will be contentious. It would be nice to be able to converse with everyone constructively as this thread has been for the most part.

All of that being said I am pretty sure it will be locked. I don't think Houds ever intended for these types of discussions to be a permanent fixture on the forum. I just wanted to thank Houdini again for making this possible. It took alot of balls to approach BO with this idea when he first suggested it I am sure.

Are we still on for the lunch buffet at Ritz Cabaret?

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by JohnRyno

Are we still on for the lunch buffet at Ritz Cabaret?

[calculusdork]

Is anyone following the stuff going on in South Korea right now? I feel like I'm living in a dream land.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by tke1600

This is getting ugly fast. Donna Brazile caught giving another debate question to HRC against Bernie (#Podestaemails24), the DOJ getting caught red handed trying to cover this up, 650,000 emails on Weiner's computer, and the Clinton Foundation under active FBI investigation on top of everything. Oh, and I have also heard the word weiner way too many times the past 2 days. Trump is still +250 on most betting sites if you like free money.

[jrinne17]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

Yes....because it is logical.

About as logical as dead people voting. Oh wait, your party already does that.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I hope this thread will keep going for the years to come.

I don't. This thread reeks of toxicity. It's a lot of chest thumping, football spiking, I'm right, you're wrong kind of attitudes. I drop in every once in a while and see nothing has changed. I see a lot of people who throw shade at one party while believing their party of choice is clean as a whistle.

In the end, I see a lot of reasons why nothing is going to change. Nobody wants to admit when they are wrong. Nobody wants to admit that maybe the other side has a better grip on certain things. In the end, nobody wants to work together. It has become all or nothing. You either get 100% of what you want or nobody gets anything. Awesome. That's how progress is made. By having it come to a screeching halt.

[TheHeel]

Originally Posted by jrinne17

About as logical as dead people voting. Oh wait, your party already does that.

So many of you get so mad. LOL

[chezball]

What's the under/over on how many members are sent to the showers on the 8th or 9th, I'm setting it at 5.

[Scottish Punk]

Interesting. Clinton has lost ten percentage points for chance to win since the 18th. Trending down. This is without much polling data after the Comey/FBI announcement. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out during the next few days. Trump still has a hard road to get to 270, but he is showing some life on some of the swing states.

Edit to add: I think the story going forward will be to see how many traditional Democrat voters stay home on election day. Either because they don't like Clinton at all (likely) or think she is going to win regardless (less likely). I think voter turn out will be lower this year either way. Historically, lower voter turnout favors Republicans.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by chezball

What's the under/over on how many members are sent to the showers on the 8th or 9th, I'm setting it at 5.

I'll take the over and hope they are permanent showers

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Interesting. Clinton has lost ten percentage points for chance to win since the 18th. Trending down. This is without much polling data after the Comey/FBI announcement. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out during the next few days. Trump still has a hard road to get to 270, but he is showing some life on some of the swing states.

Edit to add: I think the story going forward will be to see how many traditional Democrat voters stay home on election day. Either because they don't like Clinton at all (likely) or think she is going to win regardless (less likely). I think voter turn out will be lower this year either way. Historically, lower voter turnout favors Republicans.

I honestly don't know who will get out and vote for her with all the MSM reporting 2 separate FBI investigations against her, the Wikileaks emails, and all of the scandals. Even if 35% of the country doesn't care about all of that, it clearly won't be enough votes imo. Although with some polls showing her ahead, the more stuff that comes out about Clinton, the scarier it gets for us if she does end up winning still.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by tke1600

I honestly don't know who will get out and vote for her with all the MSM reporting 2 separate FBI investigations against her, the Wikileaks emails, and all of the scandals. Even if 35% of the country doesn't care about all of that, it clearly won't be enough votes imo. Although with some polls showing her ahead, the more stuff that comes out about Clinton, the scarier it gets for us if she does end up winning still.

You see it in this thread, her supporters just don't care to look at the information that's coming out.
I don't get the "not going to vote mentality" there's other things to vote for on the ballot. NJ has the north jersey casino vote, some states have legalizing pot and so on.Also local election spots to vote on.

[tke1600]

Originally Posted by chezball

You see it in this thread, her supporters just don't care to look at the information that's coming out.
I don't get the "not going to vote mentality" there's other things to vote for on the ballot. NJ has the north jersey casino vote, some state have legalizing pot and so on.

Like literally a lot of people will choose not to wait in long lines on Nov. 8 that normally would to vote for Hillary. A lot of registered voters don't turn out in regular elections under normal circumstances.

[pac213up]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Interesting. Clinton has lost ten percentage points for chance to win since the 18th. Trending down. This is without much polling data after the Comey/FBI announcement. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out during the next few days. Trump still has a hard road to get to 270, but he is showing some life on some of the swing states.

Edit to add: I think the story going forward will be to see how many traditional Democrat voters stay home on election day. Either because they don't like Clinton at all (likely) or think she is going to win regardless (less likely). I think voter turn out will be lower this year either way. Historically, lower voter turnout favors Republicans.

I would expect polls to tighten for several reasons. Keep in mind that Obama only had a +1 average lead on the final day and ended up cleaning up pretty well. National polling has less meaning at this point, especially with more early voting taking place. The state polls are what people need to watch. If Clinton holds NC and PA nothing else really matters. And really it just comes down to PA where she seems to be polling strong. There really is no indication Trump can take WI or VA so he needs to run the table on the rest which just seems highly unlikely.

[jrinne17]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

So many of you get so mad. LOL

I'm not mad, I just think it's embarrassing.

[37Jetson]

If they had it to over again I am guessing Hillary's Commandos would have destroyed the laptop of Carlos Danger.

I do hope that Comey does the right thing and released what he has on Hillary since the beginning of the investigation. That way the American voter can decide. I am enjoying watching Hillary and her backers squirm wondering what the FBI really has. It is possible it nothing but profanity laced emails about Fox News and people that are mean to her.

[37Jetson]

Originally Posted by pac213up

I would expect polls to tighten for several reasons. Keep in mind that Obama only had a +1 average lead on the final day and ended up cleaning up pretty well. National polling has less meaning at this point, especially with more early voting taking place. The state polls are what people need to watch. If Clinton holds NC and PA nothing else really matters. And really it just comes down to PA where she seems to be polling strong. There really is no indication Trump can take WI or VA so he needs to run the table on the rest which just seems highly unlikely.

I think Trump would need to have a 6-8 point lead in the national polls before WI, PA and VA become likely wins for him. It is still a long shot that Trump wins the election. NC is a must win state for Trump. I just do not see him winning PA unless the Amish sway the central PA vote.

[jewcer2k5]

Originally Posted by 37Jetson

I think Trump would need to have a 6-8 point lead in the national polls before WI, PA and VA become likely wins for him. It is still a long shot that Trump wins the election. NC is a must win state for Trump. I just do not see him winning PA unless the Amish sway the central PA vote.

What does he do for the Amish?

Or was this just a joke?

I'm so confused with this entire thread. Everytime I hear Trump speak I get flashbacks to when my peers promised me McDonalds in the HS cafeteria. Do these empty promises really come off as genuine and believable?