Topps Black cards, long term value? - Page 42

corockies · 08-13-2021, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bradical

Let's see that Tulo Copper! I have been trying to track one down for a while.

Which one? (The toploaded one is #02/56 = jersey #)

pewe · 08-13-2021, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

There’s a really big difference between buying in December and buying in May or even October when the game’s in season. December typically is the best month to find deals.

That’s why I only buy oct - dec these days, with few exceptions

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bradical · 08-13-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by corockies

Which one? (The toploaded one is #02/56 = jersey #)

So does that mean you want to sell the un-toploaded one?

Bhenry4 · 08-16-2021, 08:58 AM

Those Devers sales seem extremely low IMO.

wood minis · 08-16-2021, 09:27 AM

I like the black parallels. I pick some up every year. Sometimes I guess right on a card or get lucky. Others I like the action image of the card. Wish I was in on them when Trout's came out.

Sometimes a guy catches fire so it makes sense to sell. Yelich was a good example. I always liked him, but didn't expect he would go off with the Brewers like he did.

storycollector · 08-16-2021, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by corockies

Which one? (The toploaded one is #02/56 = jersey #)

Those are sweet. Still waiting for you to post the black 2008 Tulo rookie cup!

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pewe · 08-16-2021, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhenry4

Those Devers sales seem extremely low IMO.

Only if you are a pumping flipper would they seem too low… anyone else would agree they were too much $$, but I’m a hopeless hoarder of Devers, so had to have them even though they were expensive

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Bhenry4 · 08-17-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Only if you are a pumping flipper would they seem too low… anyone else would agree they were too much $$, but I’m a hopeless hoarder of Devers, so had to have them even though they were expensive

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I was referring to the black parallels. No clue on the clear etc. But for the price of two hobby boxes, you were able to purchase several Devers blacks?

pewe · 08-17-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhenry4

I was referring to the black parallels. No clue on the clear etc. But for the price of two hobby boxes, you were able to purchase several Devers blacks?

Always buy singles

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Rabs · 08-17-2021, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Always buy singles

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I do!

LVDan · 08-18-2021, 06:06 PM

Couple recent pickups

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pewe · 08-18-2021, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabs

I do!

Wax prices always confuse me when I see what singles cost

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Mister2Bits · 08-19-2021, 06:02 PM

All right Fellas - we all know the news about Fanatics and no more Topps. No more Topps, means no more blacks. The run will end in 2025.

Obviously this stings, but what happens to the brand recognition of Topps Black? Does this make them more desirable. If history repeats, will Topps Black be the new Precious Metal Gem?

corockies · 08-19-2021, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

All right Fellas - we all know the news about Fanatics and no more Topps. No more Topps, means no more blacks. The run will end in 2025.

Obviously this stings, but what happens to the brand recognition of Topps Black? Does this make them more desirable. If history repeats, will Topps Black be the new Precious Metal Gem?

As far as I'm concerned, Topps Black and Bowman Chrome Gold Refractors are legacy parallels with long established credentials throughout their respective brands. I don't see a brand switch diminishing their popularity over time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fanatics purchase Topps and continue on with the Topps name. There's too much brand recognition under the umbrella of Topps for Fanatics not to try and incorporate them under their veil.

rwperu34 · 08-19-2021, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by corockies

As far as I'm concerned, Topps Black and Bowman Chrome Gold Refractors are legacy parallels with long established credentials throughout their respective brands. I don't see a brand switch diminishing their popularity over time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Fanatics purchase Topps and continue on with the Topps name. There's too much brand recognition under the umbrella of Topps for Fanatics not to try and incorporate them under their veil.

Thank goodness someone said it. Now I don't have to wade through that big thread.

jlklemp · 08-20-2021, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Nice! I only have one

I only have one as well:

But since you're showing off your Scherzers, thought I'd show off a monster I just added to my Masterpieces collection:

Mister2Bits · 08-20-2021, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jlklemp

But since you're showing off your Scherzers, thought I'd show off a monster I just added to my Masterpieces collection:

Woah. That's one heck of a find. Congrats

dictoresno · 08-23-2021, 01:31 AM

totally forgot I had two Higashioka's. btw, playing with the gamma settings on my scanner makes a huge difference with the clarity of the scans. middle image is recent, two outers from from awhile back.

cloakroom · 08-26-2021, 12:24 AM

love black parallels and glad to see this thread exists. i've been eyeing a 2016 chrome black refractor, would anyone happen to know the PR of these? pop report doesn't tell a whole lot other than it is low. is it safe to assume it's similar to when they were numbered?

Giancarlo27 · 08-26-2021, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cloakroom

love black parallels and glad to see this thread exists. i've been eyeing a 2016 chrome black refractor, would anyone happen to know the PR of these? pop report doesn't tell a whole lot other than it is low. is it safe to assume it's similar to when they were numbered?

Those were hot box exclusives (one hot box per case). I recall someone doing an estimate around release and it was like 275-300 copies per card I think

bradical · 08-30-2021, 08:22 PM

A few new ones for the PC:

*The Bumgarner was mislabeled by PSA (shocked face). I am probably going to crack it out anyways.

BuffJake · 09-07-2021, 12:19 AM

A long time reader of this thread while I hunted for the right Topps black card of my favorite players like Griffey, Greinke, Mauer Springer and Montero, I finally tracked it down! Here's my contribution. Card #680 features the M&M boys, Mauer and Morneau on their first Topps black card from the inaugural '03 set. Better yet this one is the last one made and numbered 52/52!

dfenno · 09-07-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BuffJake

A long time reader of this thread while I hunted for the right Topps black card of my favorite players like Griffey, Greinke, Mauer Springer and Montero, I finally tracked it down! Here's my contribution. Card #680 features the M&M boys, Mauer and Morneau on their first Topps black card from the inaugural '03 set. Better yet this one is the last one made and numbered 52/52!

Beautiful card! I don’t think I’ve even seen a photo of that one before. Great find!

BuffJake · 09-07-2021, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dfenno

Beautiful card! I don’t think I’ve even seen a photo of that one before. Great find!

Thank you!

Oddly enough although I knew of the card’s existence this was also the first time I had seen a copy as well when I saw it for sale. For me it kind of exists within a Twilight Zone of Joe’s cards. His rookies are from sets in 2002 while his first cards as a big leaguer are from 2004, yet this one is from 2003 when he was still a prospect but featured in Topps flagship of that year. Also, how many times do these dual draft picks or prospect cards feature two legends from one team? More often than not both guys featured don’t end up panning out, at best maybe one player has a solid career. So that’s pretty unique!

storycollector · 09-07-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BuffJake

Thank you!

Oddly enough although I knew of the card’s existence this was also the first time I had seen a copy as well when I saw it for sale. For me it kind of exists within a Twilight Zone of Joe’s cards. His rookies are from sets in 2002 while his first cards as a big leaguer are from 2004, yet this one is from 2003 when he was still a prospect but featured in Topps flagship of that year. Also, how many times do these dual draft picks or prospect cards feature two legends from one team? More often than not both guys featured don’t end up panning out, at best maybe one player has a solid career. So that’s pretty unique!

Agreed! Possibly only outdone by the Ichiro/Pujols 01 card but that before parallels aside from the Topps gold and the chrome refractor. Imagine a black parallel of that bad boy!

This Mauer / morneau is a fantastic cards fha is for sharing!

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08-16-2021, 08:58 AM	#1029
Bhenry4 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Charm City Posts: 13,993 bhendu1	Those Devers sales seem extremely low IMO. __________________ Viva John Ryno

08-16-2021, 09:27 AM	#1030
wood minis Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Northeastern USA Posts: 4,093	I like the black parallels. I pick some up every year. Sometimes I guess right on a card or get lucky. Others I like the action image of the card. Wish I was in on them when Trout's came out. Sometimes a guy catches fire so it makes sense to sell. Yelich was a good example. I always liked him, but didn't expect he would go off with the Brewers like he did. __________________ Allen & Ginter wood mini collector

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08-19-2021, 06:02 PM	#1038
Mister2Bits Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Florida Man Posts: 5,207 mistertwobits mistertwobits	All right Fellas - we all know the news about Fanatics and no more Topps. No more Topps, means no more blacks. The run will end in 2025. Obviously this stings, but what happens to the brand recognition of Topps Black? Does this make them more desirable. If history repeats, will Topps Black be the new Precious Metal Gem? __________________ Collecting: Ohtani, Judge \| Skateboarding Cards, Autographs & Decks

08-23-2021, 01:31 AM	#1043
dictoresno Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 4,267 smzcards	totally forgot I had two Higashioka's. btw, playing with the gamma settings on my scanner makes a huge difference with the clarity of the scans. middle image is recent, two outers from from awhile back. __________________ myslabs.to/smzcards

08-26-2021, 12:24 AM	#1044
cloakroom Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 322	love black parallels and glad to see this thread exists. i've been eyeing a 2016 chrome black refractor, would anyone happen to know the PR of these? pop report doesn't tell a whole lot other than it is low. is it safe to assume it's similar to when they were numbered?

08-30-2021, 08:22 PM	#1046
bradical Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,409	A few new ones for the PC: *The Bumgarner was mislabeled by PSA (shocked face). I am probably going to crack it out anyways. __________________ :turkey: :turkey: :turkey:

09-07-2021, 12:19 AM	#1047
BuffJake Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 308 broncdenve_0	The M&M boys! A long time reader of this thread while I hunted for the right Topps black card of my favorite players like Griffey, Greinke, Mauer Springer and Montero, I finally tracked it down! Here's my contribution. Card #680 features the M&M boys, Mauer and Morneau on their first Topps black card from the inaugural '03 set. Better yet this one is the last one made and numbered 52/52! Last edited by BuffJake; 09-07-2021 at 12:48 AM.