The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-21/22 Edition

[Nomad]

General q, which games mean something tonight?

[bkcardcollector]

Originally Posted by jswest18

Not having JC last night was a big deal. Outside of Capela he's the only legit rebounder the Hawks have. I also think he would have done a little better job on Siakam than TLC or Hunter. Both are too limited physically. Siakam bullied both of them all night to get his shot in the paint. Capela actually did a pretty good job on him later in the game but that pulled him away from the glass. JC would have been a difference maker.

If the Hawks can't find a way to get to 7th then I almost hope they stay at 9. If they get the 8 seed they have to go on the road in Brooklyn which would be a very tough game then would have a home game against Charlotte most likely. With the 9 see they'd have a home game against Charlotte which would be tough but I like them at home, then they'd likely face Cleveland on the road. With Cleveland missing Mobley and Allen, I'd rather face Cleveland in a win or go home than Brooklyn and Charlotte. Even if it would be on the road. I'm not trying to take away from Cleveland because they could certainly win but there's no question this version of Cleveland is worse than the current versions of Brooklyn and Charlotte.

So you are saying you would rather have to beat Charlotte and Cleveland than have to just beat Cleveland????

Originally Posted by jswest18

JC is a more efficient scorer and better shooter. He just plays on a team with a ball dominant guard and a bunch of other highly efficient offensive players. He'd easily be a 20 point guy on most other teams.

OK, now I know there is nothing up there...

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Weren't the Hawks without Hunter? And wasn't Trae also banged up? Seems like, if anything, the Hawks were more handicapped than the Sixers.

The guy you're replying to doesn't live in reality so you're wasting your time with pesky things like 'facts'.


Yesterday's Jazz win was huge for them, they can effectively lock up 5th today with a win over Tanklahoma.

[NeedChapmans]

Thybulle not allowed to play in Canada.

That answers that. (Probably start Shake and then have no bench of any kind)

[kd the sniper]

Gotta love steph curry's reaction on lebron wanting to play with him

[brothertona]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

The guy you're replying to doesn't live in reality so you're wasting your time with pesky things like 'facts'.


Yesterday's Jazz win was huge for them, they can effectively lock up 5th today with a win over Tanklahoma.

I'm wondering what his excuse for his absence will be when the Sixers get eliminated again?


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[kd the sniper]

Kyrie=Westbrook... Durants kryptonite.. Sucks to say that

[kd the sniper]

Nba trying to get 2 play in games out of the nets, with the fake show gone.. If it was opposite calls, I'd say it

[daeve]

Jericho Sims giving the Nets a hard time lol

[Siberian13]

Hawks won but Nets won too. Dang it

[escapegoat]

nets/cavs on friday is big for both teams.

[mfw13]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...mplement-games

Is Silver really that stupid?

When regular season games become meaningless, stars on good teams are going to sit more of them out.

If you want stars to play more games:

1) Reduce the schedule to 60-70 games
2) Eliminate back-to-backs, or get rid of road back-to-backs that involve travel between cities
3) Reduce the number of teams that make the playoffs (so as to make regular season games more meaningful)
4) Move the All-Star Game to after the season so as create a few more rest days during the season

[Qman316]

Originally Posted by kd the sniper

Gotta love steph curry's reaction on lebron wanting to play with him

Ha ha I loved it! Man lakers can’t even make the play in, that’s pathetic!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mfw13

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...mplement-games

Is Silver really that stupid?

When regular season games become meaningless, stars on good teams are going to sit more of them out.

If you want stars to play more games:

1) Reduce the schedule to 60-70 games
2) Eliminate back-to-backs, or get rid of road back-to-backs that involve travel between cities
3) Reduce the number of teams that make the playoffs (so as to make regular season games more meaningful)
4) Move the All-Star Game to after the season so as create a few more rest days during the season

Yes, Silver is a clown. Only #3 would change the participation of stars in the regular season. And playoff contraction will never happen.

The stars know that the regular season is meaningless. Over half the league makes the playoffs. The team just needs to get there. There’s too much parity in the league now. Good for the playoffs and bad for the regular season.

Reap what you sow. The league is suffering the consequences of caving into any and everything the players wanted a few years back. They sit out games, give poor effort when they play, and as Harden has proven, contracts are meaningless. Unhappy? Just force your way out to a new team at any time. Silver knows the answer to all of this, but he’s too big of a puss to do what it takes.

[jswest18]

Originally Posted by bkcardcollector

So you are saying you would rather have to beat Charlotte and Cleveland than have to just beat Cleveland????



OK, now I know there is nothing up there...

No that’s not what I said. If you actually read what I said then you should have been able to see that I was assuming the Nets finish the season as the 7th seed. If Cleveland ended with the 7th seed and ATL ended 8th then I would much prefer that for the Hawks over the Hawks getting the 9th seed. At this point though (even more so after the Knicks win tonight) I don’t see the Nets losing the rest of the regular season which means they will be locked into the 7th seed. It also means if the Hawks finish 8th they’d have to face the nets then likely the Hornets if they lose.

Not sure what you mean by “nothing up there.” It seems you’re saying that I’m stupid for saying JC would be a 20 PPG guy on a lot of teams. If that’s the case then you don’t know what you’re talking about. His 2nd year, first with Trae, he averaged 19.5. The next year he averaged 21.6. Both of those years were on a team where he was the clear second option. Before Huerter become a more consistent part of the offense and before ATL brought in Bogi, Capella and Gallo. His usage has gone down a lot since. He’d definitely be a 20 point guy on a team where he was the clear 2nd option.

[RogerGodahell]

Reducing the number of games wont change anything. Players would still sit out games. The players and teams are overly cautious compared to previous generations. It's all about players maximizing career earnings and making an extra hundred million or more if they can just stretch their career out a few more years.

The money involved is insane nowadays 30, 40, 50 million a year. They get paid whether they play or not so why wouldn't they be super cautious? I don't like it either but the owners and the league agreed to all of it. The fans are the ones who lose, especially the ones who bought tickets to see the stars and favorite players perform and maybe get stuck with a dud game when they take a night off.

[RogerGodahell]

Take a guy like KP for example. He's not going to go out there and play 70-80 games a year even if he could. The slightest discomfort he has he's going to take several games off because he can and still get paid 35 million a year. He's probably think all i need to do is milk this thing out for a couple more year and someone will give me one more big contract of $150-200 million.

He's not going to take any chances and risk losing that next big contract. Could he play in a lot more games then he does? Probably, but he wont because he doesn't have to. He's getting paid regardless.

[yiguiri2002]

That's because there is a limit on max contracts. LeBron, Steph, Giannis won't be making what they are making on a free market. They are currently taking a pay cut compared to what they would make.

Guys like Porzingis are actually making what they are worth. There's a lot of money in the NBA right now.

[Nomad]

nice little prediction about tomorrow: "Nesmith going for 40 vs Griz bench"

But then, the Grizz might play Bane. I think Ja's "conditioning" game is last of regular season?

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by Nomad

nice little prediction about tomorrow: "Nesmith going for 40 vs Griz bench"

If he doesn't, would you do us all a favour and shut up about him for the rest of this NBA season and playoffs...??

[Nomad]

gladly, sorry for the slip up, I was trying. I do think it will be a great game, whatever happens.

[bkcardcollector]

Originally Posted by jswest18

No that’s not what I said. If you actually read what I said then you should have been able to see that I was assuming the Nets finish the season as the 7th seed. If Cleveland ended with the 7th seed and ATL ended 8th then I would much prefer that for the Hawks over the Hawks getting the 9th seed. At this point though (even more so after the Knicks win tonight) I don’t see the Nets losing the rest of the regular season which means they will be locked into the 7th seed. It also means if the Hawks finish 8th they’d have to face the nets then likely the Hornets if they lose.

Not sure what you mean by “nothing up there.” It seems you’re saying that I’m stupid for saying JC would be a 20 PPG guy on a lot of teams. If that’s the case then you don’t know what you’re talking about. His 2nd year, first with Trae, he averaged 19.5. The next year he averaged 21.6. Both of those years were on a team where he was the clear second option. Before Huerter become a more consistent part of the offense and before ATL brought in Bogi, Capella and Gallo. His usage has gone down a lot since. He’d definitely be a 20 point guy on a team where he was the clear 2nd option.

For the first paragraph, ummm ok, didnt counterpoint at all...

For the second paragraph, JC on TO would be like the 5th option behind Van Vleet, Siakam, Barnes and Gary Trent Jr. and that is being generous and with OG gone. He'd be fighting Precious Achuiwa for minutes. Just another fan that hasn't watched 1 raptors game and huge disrespect because we don't talk about them after every game like the hawnks or cavs or nuggets or grizzlies or warriors or celtics or sixers or bucks etc.

[bkcardcollector]

Originally Posted by jswest18

Not having JC last night was a big deal. Outside of Capela he's the only legit rebounder the Hawks have. I also think he would have done a little better job on Siakam than TLC or Hunter. Both are too limited physically. Siakam bullied both of them all night to get his shot in the paint. Capela actually did a pretty good job on him later in the game but that pulled him away from the glass. JC would have been a difference maker.

If the Hawks can't find a way to get to 7th then I almost hope they stay at 9. If they get the 8 seed they have to go on the road in Brooklyn which would be a very tough game then would have a home game against Charlotte most likely. With the 9 see they'd have a home game against Charlotte which would be tough but I like them at home, then they'd likely face Cleveland on the road. With Cleveland missing Mobley and Allen, I'd rather face Cleveland in a win or go home than Brooklyn and Charlotte. Even if it would be on the road. I'm not trying to take away from Cleveland because they could certainly win but there's no question this version of Cleveland is worse than the current versions of Brooklyn and Charlotte.

First scenerio in bold you have a loss to Brooklyn then a home game against Charlotte.

Therefore 1 must win at home in Charlotte.

Second scenerio in bold, which you would prefer, is a home game against Charlotte for a must win then on the road to face cleveland

Therefore 1 must win at home in Charlotte and 1 must win on road against Cleveland.

There I made it easier for you.

[bkcardcollector]

Originally Posted by mfw13

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...mplement-games

Is Silver really that stupid?

When regular season games become meaningless, stars on good teams are going to sit more of them out.

If you want stars to play more games:

1) Reduce the schedule to 60-70 games
2) Eliminate back-to-backs, or get rid of road back-to-backs that involve travel between cities
3) Reduce the number of teams that make the playoffs (so as to make regular season games more meaningful)
4) Move the All-Star Game to after the season so as create a few more rest days during the season

What is going on blowout??? Do I need to point this one out????

[bkcardcollector]

Originally Posted by bkcardcollector

For the first paragraph, ummm ok, didnt counterpoint at all...

For the second paragraph, JC on TO would be like the 5th option behind Van Vleet, Siakam, Barnes and Gary Trent Jr. and that is being generous and with OG gone. He'd be fighting Precious Achuiwa for minutes. Just another fan that hasn't watched 1 raptors game and huge disrespect because we don't talk about them after every game like the hawnks or cavs or nuggets or grizzlies or warriors or celtics or sixers or bucks etc.

forgot to mention Thad Young as well. JC is the last thing we need.