Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.

[kabrune2]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Is there something about this 22-year-old’s game that can be identified as distinctly sub-Pujols?


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Defense - I had Pujols in a Dynasty league in his early years and he qualified at 3B/1B/OF, it was awesome. And he was league average at every position defensively. I’d bet Pujols probably was a better base runner in his early years too, but again nitpicky stuff.

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

These takes are- at face value-- ridiculous. Prime Pujols? Seriously? There's no one playing the sport on any level that sniffs "Prime Pujols"

Ridiculous?

I’m saying that Vlad’s balanced approach, ability to hit for power to all fields, and overall offensive performance this year is reminiscent of good ol’ Albert when he was destroying the ball as well. Is he Pujols right now? No. Was I claiming that? No.

Clearly, Vlad has made some adjustments this year. It will be interesting to see if he can keep this same approach. Hence the “IF” in that statement. The hardest part about the game is the ability to produce consistently. Albert certainly did this in his prime, we will see if Vlad can.

Everything doesn’t have to be a battle man. We are just talking baseball on here and enjoy the fact that Vlad is lighting it up this year.


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[clocsta2323]

I love Vlad, but I'm not jaded. He is on a heater, that's it.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

These takes are- at face value-- ridiculous. Prime Pujols? Seriously? There's no one playing the sport on any level that sniffs "Prime Pujols"

What, you don't declare guys prime Pujols after a two month hot streak? (Make sure to pretend the previous two seasons didn't happen)

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

Ridiculous?

I’m saying that Vlad’s balanced approach, ability to hit for power to all fields, and overall offensive performance this year is reminiscent of good ol’ Albert when he was destroying the ball as well. Is he Pujols right now? No. Was I claiming that? No.

Clearly, Vlad has made some adjustments this year. It will be interesting to see if he can keep this same approach. Hence the “IF” in that statement. The hardest part about the game is the ability to produce consistently. Albert certainly did this in his prime, we will see if Vlad can.

Everything doesn’t have to be a battle man. We are just talking baseball on here and enjoy the fact that Vlad is lighting it up this year.


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all I needed to know. I love Arenado and hate the park adjusted figures, but Vlad is Gherig crossed with Ruth and Ted Williams hitting in the little league park

[sigmachi]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

Defense - I had Pujols in a Dynasty league in his early years and he qualified at 3B/1B/OF, it was awesome. And he was league average at every position defensively. I’d bet Pujols probably was a better base runner in his early years too, but again nitpicky stuff.

Pujols was a supremely smart baserunner but was always slow as molasses. His defense was awful too. The reason he qualified at and played at so many positions is because he wasn't good at any of them.

[shayscards79]

If he's going to win a triple crown the odds are greatly in his favor. This is a league full of teams that are hitting .250 collectively... at best. If he can maintain even a .320 average that should lock it up for him if the home runs and RBI are there.

[Triple B]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

all I needed to know. I love Arenado and hate the park adjusted figures, but Vlad is Gherig crossed with Ruth and Ted Williams hitting in the little league park

Good. I hope he hits 70 home runs so we can debate it’s merits because of the park he played in rather than looking back at 70 and saying it was aided by juice.

Every thread is the same...the player it’s focusing on is the greatest thing since anything. I’m having fun watch this guy hit...little league park or not.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by Triple B

Good. I hope he hits 70 home runs so we can debate it’s merits because of the park he played in rather than looking back at 70 and saying it was aided by juice.

Every thread is the same...the player it’s focusing on is the greatest thing since anything. I’m having fun watch this guy hit...little league park or not.

If he hits 70 I can retire. I have a ton of Vlad, but his splits are cartoon quality.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

These takes are- at face value-- ridiculous. Prime Pujols? Seriously? There's no one playing the sport on any level that sniffs "Prime Pujols"

Lol. No one is prime pujols right now, but to say no one is sniffing that is wild. Vlad could very well put up that type of year at age 22.

Prime pujols averages out to be .330-335 avg, .430 obp, 40-45 hr, 120 rbi, 40 2b. Vlad is on pace to exceed that. Not saying he will, but just giving some context.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Lol. No one is prime pujols right now, but to say no one is sniffing that is wild. Vlad could very well put up that type of year at age 22.

Prime pujols averages out to be .330-335 avg, .430 obp, 40-45 hr, 120 rbi, 40 2b. Vlad is on pace to exceed that. Not saying he will, but just giving some context.

Only when he plays at the same spot high schoolers get a taste of pro ball/

[dream34]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Only when he plays at the same spot high schoolers get a taste of pro ball/

Didn’t know Vladdy was the only player to get to play there. Either that or great to see all his teammates also setting the league on fire.

Or maybe, just maybe, he can really hit anywhere as his track record since 2017 suggests?

And maybe, just maybe, we should give a 19 year old expected to be the next babe ruth a little time to adjust playing against guys 6-7 years older than him?

Nah! Let’s just attack and scrutinize!

[beavers]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Only when he plays at the same spot high schoolers get a taste of pro ball/

Average home run length is 410 ft. Acuna is 411, Ohtani 413, Devers 412, Judge 401.

He is 6th in brls/pa% @ 10.6%

His average exit velocity is 3rd @ 94.9

Those have nothing to do with what park you are playing in. He is hitting the ball very well.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by beavers

Average home run length is 410 ft. Acuna is 411, Ohtani 413, Devers 412, Judge 401.

He is 6th in brls/pa% @ 10.6%

His average exit velocity is 3rd @ 94.9

Those have nothing to do with what park you are playing in. He is hitting the ball very well.

Those strange number % are why no one cares about baseball anymore.

There are great articles about why analytics have ruined the sport.

Sorry, exit velocity isn't at the front of peoples minds when they watch a game.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Dude... he is playing in a single A park. Do you not get that? They play musical chairs during the pitching changes. He is Babe Ruthx10 at home, pedestrian away.

Let me answer your condescension with a little condescension of my own...

What about musical chairs between innings influences the MLB pitcher-MLB hitter dynamic?

When Vlad hits a ball 450+ feet, is that because he had artificially boosted confidence by the fact that he once played in that park when he was 18?

When he hit two home runs off of 3-time Cy Young award winner Max Scherzer, was it because Scherzer was still thinking about the baseball bat ballet that was happening during his warmup tosses?

Also, are you aware that Dunedin is in the Florida State League, which is historically known as a pitcher’s league?

What else I can add... Oh, yeah, home runs over the batter’s eye: so Single-A.

Also, the mound and bases are the same distances, the grass is still grass, the sea-level air is still at sea level...

What else, what else... Oh, right. Musical chairs!!


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[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by kabrune2

Defense - I had Pujols in a Dynasty league in his early years and he qualified at 3B/1B/OF, it was awesome. And he was league average at every position defensively. I’d bet Pujols probably was a better base runner in his early years too, but again nitpicky stuff.

Maybe. But Vlad pulled a nifty move last night, going first to third when third was left uncovered. And we’ve seen him score from first. And while he’s not a base-stealer, he can move when he’s not carrying 40 extra.


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[Chris P]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Those strange number % are why no one cares about baseball anymore.

There are great articles about why analytics have ruined the sport.

Sorry, exit velocity isn't at the front of peoples minds when they watch a game.

And I doubt most fans care about what park he's hitting home runs in as long as he's mashing the ball

[dream34]

Seriously is this Skip Bayless testing out his new target or something? Some amazing straws being picked at here!

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Let me answer your condescension with a little condescension of my own...

What about musical chairs between innings influences the MLB pitcher-MLB hitter dynamic?

When Vlad hits a ball 450+ feet, is that because he had artificially boosted confidence by the fact that he once played in that park when he was 18?

When he hit two home runs off of 3-time Cy Young award winner Max Scherzer, was it because Scherzer was still thinking about the baseball bat ballet that was happening during his warmup tosses?

Also, are you aware that Dunedin is in the Florida State League, which is historically known as a pitcher’s league?

What else I can add... Oh, yeah, home runs over the batter’s eye: so Single-A.

Also, the mound and bases are the same distances, the grass is still grass, the sea-level air is still at sea level...

What else, what else... Oh, right. Musical chairs!!


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The irony of thinking you helped his case when you destroyed it.

[Brady7799]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Those strange number % are why no one cares about baseball anymore.

There are great articles about why analytics have ruined the sport.

Sorry, exit velocity isn't at the front of peoples minds when they watch a game.

if you watch the Jays broadcast, Vladdy's exit velos are mentioned every single time he tops 100 mph regardless of the outcome.

every. single. time.

if it's not at the front of people's minds when they watch a game, then the Jays broadcast team is doing their very best to change that.

[beavers]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Those strange number % are why no one cares about baseball anymore.

There are great articles about why analytics have ruined the sport.

Sorry, exit velocity isn't at the front of peoples minds when they watch a game.

We aren't watching a game. We are analyzing a player. You said his performance is due to the park. I showed stats that suggest he is hitting the ball well independent of the park.

Sorry, you are changing your story.

[Jeff1970Red]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Those strange number % are why no one cares about baseball anymore.

There are great articles about why analytics have ruined the sport.

Sorry, exit velocity isn't at the front of peoples minds when they watch a game.

time to upgrade to clocsta1313

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

If he hits 70 I can retire. I have a ton of Vlad, but his splits are cartoon quality.

so are all of your posts

[nflfans4ever]

His NNO BGS Pristine 10 is only a POP 27 !
This one should bring a hugeee premium going forward

[jbruner23]

is there a way to mute a member's posts?