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Old 07-22-2016, 10:59 AM   #976
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So when he claimed the uneducated are targeted by Trump was he talking school uneducated or politics uneducated?

Think a whole bunch on both sides politically uneducated. Many are voting just because not him not her reasons
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So when he claimed the uneducated are targeted by Trump was he talking school uneducated or politics uneducated?

Think a whole bunch on both sides politically uneducated. Many are voting just because not him not her reasons
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:09 AM   #978
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The notion that anyone would vote for a candidate strictly based on his or her sex, race, religion, etc...is appalling.

In my opinion, "wanting to be part of history" is not a valid or respectable reasoning for casting a vote for a candidate.
Listening to reasons at my school during mock elections in 2008,2012, and this year many students vote due to race or gender even after discussions and lessons done to better inform
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:12 AM   #979
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Did I say that's what Trump said or meant? No. That is how it is interpreted by uneducated people which plays into my point.
Because it's drilled in people's heads on CNN and other media outlets
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I hate when people correct others on Internet about grammar but I had to do it since we were discussing education lol
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Funny to watch people try to fit voters on the right and the left into stereotypes.

The only scientific constant I've ever come across are the multiple studies showing that liberals' brains are more open to new experiences while conservatives' brains display a higher "fight or flight" response to new stimuli. But even that is not across the board, it's just a general trend.

What I can say though, is every school year I start by giving my students an empathy quotient test. I keep the results and then have them take a political views survey in their junior and senior years. I have found several years running now an almost perfect correlation between high empathy students and liberal views and vice versa.

Not a perfect double blind study, but I find it interesting.
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Because it's drilled in people's heads on CNN and other media outlets
And Fox doesn't drill the negativity about the Dem's into the GOP minds? Let's not just blame "liberal" media. Both sides do it.
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So when he claimed the uneducated are targeted by Trump was he talking school uneducated or politics uneducated?

Think a whole bunch on both sides politically uneducated. Many are voting just because not him not her reasons
Trump plays to a mixture but generally I was referring to politically uneducated, we've already been over this previously. Generally, uneducated people believe all the crap spewed by either side of the media and Trump capitalizes on this
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The notion that anyone would vote for a candidate strictly based on his or her sex, race, religion, etc...is appalling.

In my opinion, "wanting to be part of history" is not a valid or respectable reasoning for casting a vote for a candidate.
So is it as appalling that people won't vote for people for those reasons?
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Doesn't the Democratic Party do well in the inner city where poverty levels are higher and education levels overall are lower?

Cracks me up what some type

See-Obama as a community organizer

See-Hillary Clinton, Saul Alinsky, and the letters about Rules For Radicals
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"They're bringging drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people...'' was the quote.

I, in my own personal opinion, think Donald Trump is an uppity, white bigot, who sees Mexicans, and minorities as a whole, as a 'lower level' of humanity. That's not unique for rich, white men.
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I've been "that guy" before I deserved it
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I hate when people correct others THE on Internet about grammar, but I had to do it since we were discussing education lol
Sorry. I had to regain an inch on my "member" by pointing out your mistakes; because, you know, internet "member" measuring
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Sorry. I had to regain an inch on my "member" by pointing out your mistakes; because, you know, internet "member" measuring
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Funny to watch people try to fit voters on the right and the left into stereotypes.

The only scientific constant I've ever come across are the multiple studies showing that liberals' brains are more open to new experiences while conservatives' brains display a higher "fight or flight" response to new stimuli. But even that is not across the board, it's just a general trend.

What I can say though, is every school year I start by giving my students an empathy quotient test. I keep the results and then have them take a political views survey in their junior and senior years. I have found several years running now an almost perfect correlation between high empathy students and liberal views and vice versa.

Not a perfect double blind study, but I find it interesting.
In general I have always thought that liberals see the world for what they want it to be while conservatives see the world the way it is. I guess that is a more simplified version of what you were attempting to determine.
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"They're bringging drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people...'' was the quote.

I, in my own personal opinion, think Donald Trump is an uppity, white bigot, who sees Mexicans, and minorities as a whole, as a 'lower level' of humanity. That's not unique for rich, white men.
So you hold that against him and then stereotype rich white men? Nothing in trumps statement is false.
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Funny to watch people try to fit voters on the right and the left into stereotypes.

The only scientific constant I've ever come across are the multiple studies showing that liberals' brains are more open to new experiences while conservatives' brains display a higher "fight or flight" response to new stimuli. But even that is not across the board, it's just a general trend.

What I can say though, is every school year I start by giving my students an empathy quotient test. I keep the results and then have them take a political views survey in their junior and senior years. I have found several years running now an almost perfect correlation between high empathy students and liberal views and vice versa.

Not a perfect double blind study, but I find it interesting.
Feel free to PM me such test. I'm certain I would score poorly. Empathy isn't a strong suit of mine...

All that said, I think it partly shapes my attraction to Libertarianism; while not empathetic, I don't want the government involved in my life and therefore believe that should be afforded to all citizens.
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In general I have always thought that liberals see the world for what they want it to be while conservatives see the world the way it is. I guess that is a more simplified version of what you were attempting to determine.
My opinion differs: I believe that liberals see the world for what it could be, and conservatives see it for what they think it should be.

I'm not of the opinion that either is wrong, but a stance in the middle seems to be the best for me.
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Feel free to PM me such test. I'm certain I would score poorly. Empathy isn't a strong suit of mine...

All that said, I think it partly shapes my attraction to Libertarianism; while not empathetic, I don't want the government involved in my life and therefore believe that should be afforded to all citizens.
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Double fail: Correcting a mistake with another mistake.

Hey, let us all get "real" for a second: none of us can be TOO brilliant. As collectors of memorabilia, there has to be a ceiling to our intellect. Dumping money into "collecting" isn't going to make the vast majority of us into millionaires (You know, since iMac was banned).
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So you hold that against him and then stereotype rich white men? Nothing in trumps statement is false.
I'm not stereotyping all rich white men, but with money/power comes a sense of entitlement and an inflation of importance to a lot of people. I ASSUME, as the Donald likes to say in a tongue in cheek way, that there are rich BLACK/BROWN men who are the same. The problem is, this RICH WHITE MAN is running for president so that's who I was discussing.

I find it amusing that Trump's supporters call his statements 'fact'...of course it's fact. No one is denying that there are plenty of illegal immigrants who are criminals.

My stance is that they're NOT ALL FROM MEXICO. Brown skin does NOT equal Mexican, and the term ''hispanic'' or ''latino'' is a ridiculous term to use, at least to me. This lumps Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, etc. into one group, which we absolutely are not.

I am PRO IMMIGRATION reform, but for ALL people, not just Mexicans.
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Hey, let us all get "real" for a second: none of us can be TOO brilliant. As collectors of memorabilia, there has to be a ceiling to our intellect. Dumping money into "collecting" isn't going to make the vast majority of us into millionaires (You know, since iMac was banned).
I thought we were all brilliant, and in a race to reach 0 on the IQ test. Isn't this like golf?
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"They're bringging drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people...'' was the quote.

I, in my own personal opinion, think Donald Trump is an uppity, white bigot, who sees Mexicans, and minorities as a whole, as a 'lower level' of humanity. That's not unique for rich, white men.
Since less than half of illegal immigrants are Mexican, you automatically assuming an illegal immigrant is a Mexican makes you a bigot.
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Anyone else find it interesting that when these types of discussion were forbidden all hell would break loose in a mad dash before the deletion, yet now that they are allowed most of us have maintained restraint? It has been said that when someone doesn't have something they value it more then when they actually do. Seems to be the case so far.
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