Who has had the better overall NBA career - Kobe or Duncan? - Page 4

CubKings · 06-18-2014, 08:38 PM

Kobe had a 3-peat and another 2-peat..... Isn't it kind of weird that as long as the Spurs have been good they have never repeated as champs?

drob50 · 06-18-2014, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CubKings

Kobe had a 3-peat and another 2-peat..... Isn't it kind of weird that as long as the Spurs have been good they have never repeated as champs?

Up until this year, they had never even made the finals 2 years in a row, let alone win.
2015 is coming!

Kefka891 · 06-19-2014, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tristan20

Duncan, players want to play with him, Kobe players want to get away from him lol

Finals MVP 3 vs 2, without a doubt Duncan.

What players have made big decisions to join Duncan? I'm waiting...

And what players have tried to "get away" from Kobe? I can only think of 1. One of the biggest failures in NBA history in Dwight Howard.

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Originally Posted by jr24ai3

If it's a game 7, I'm taking Kobe. If it's over the long haul of a series, I'll take Duncan. I don't feel Duncan can win a game on his own, even though he is a well rounded player. Kobe can take over a game 7 and win it on his own.

But both had amazing careers and it was fun to watch.

Huh? Taking Kobe in a game 7 is a no brainer, but so is over the course of the series. Duncan is one of the greatest to play the game, no doubt, but he's also a huge product of great coaching and team play. Take his last ring for example, it's not like he was controlling any of series.

drob50 · 06-19-2014, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kefka891

What players have made big decisions to join Duncan? I'm waiting...

And what players have tried to "get away" from Kobe? I can only think of 1. One of the biggest failures in NBA history in Dwight Howard.

Huh? Taking Kobe in a game 7 is a no brainer, but so is over the course of the series. Duncan is one of the greatest to play the game, no doubt, but he's also a huge product of great coaching and team play. Take his last ring for example, it's not like he was controlling any of series.

Watch OT from Game 6 vs OKC and see if he controlled any of it?

Nyfancam01 · 06-19-2014, 12:13 AM

Both great players but Kobe is usually ALWAYS mentioned up there with Jordan and James....

I'll take Kobe.

Kefka891 · 06-19-2014, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by drob50

Watch OT from Game 6 vs OKC and see if he controlled any of it?

That's one game. One overtime. 5 minutes. Give me Kobe over Duncan.

drob50 · 06-19-2014, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kefka891

That's one game. One overtime. 5 minutes. Give me Kobe over Duncan.

It's not the only time he stood up for them! Just an example!

You can have Kobe! That means I get Duncan even if I had the second pick!

jj2 · 06-19-2014, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kefka891

What players have made big decisions to join Duncan? I'm waiting...

And what players have tried to "get away" from Kobe? I can only think of 1. One of the biggest failures in NBA history in Dwight Howard.

Huh? Taking Kobe in a game 7 is a no brainer, but so is over the course of the series. Duncan is one of the greatest to play the game, no doubt, but he's also a huge product of great coaching and team play. Take his last ring for example, it's not like he was controlling any of series.

He's won two finals MVP's in addition to three league MVP's, so apparently someone must think TD is in control of something.

As to your first point: Shaq, Phil Jackson.

CubKings · 06-19-2014, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by drob50

Up until this year, they had never even made the finals 2 years in a row, let alone win.
2015 is coming!

Ah, that is true, too. I didn't even think about just appearances in the finals... So their first back to back was these last two... That's crazy to think about... I'll have to check, but have they even missed the playoffs in the Dunkovich era?

drob50 · 06-19-2014, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CubKings

Ah, that is true, too. I didn't even think about just appearances in the finals... So their first back to back was these last two... That's crazy to think about... I'll have to check, but have they even missed the playoffs in the Dunkovich era?

Duncovich!?!! NICE! lol

No, they haven't missed in 17 years. Pretty sure they have had 16 straight 50+ win seasons together.

Up until last year, they were 4 from 4 in the finals. Now they are 5/6

bas · 06-19-2014, 05:39 AM

Accolades are close I give the edge to Duncan, Kobe owns the edge in media/hype which actually does matter its basically popularity then Tim owns the peak/prime argument so its like saying Iverson vs stockton, the more popular guy vs the better player

drobfan8 · 06-19-2014, 07:34 AM

Some great opinions on both sides. Whichever guy you choose, there's not much between them.

Some people seem to think that Popovich made Tim Duncan.

TD's rookie year he had 21pts/11.9Reb/2.5 blk. Pop didn't teach him that.

We also forget that Duncan could have been the no.1 pick in the draft the year before he went to the NBA. That would have added another year of 20 and 10 to his stats.

People keep saying that Duncan is a product of a great system. This is hilarious, the guy would have won anywhere. Would Kobe have?

Kobe even missed the playoffs once or twice. TD didn't. They (Spurs) were a chance EVERY year.

Teams with Kobe have been swept a bunch of times in the Playoffs. I can't think of this EVER happening to a Duncan led team.

Go back and watch Duncan is his prime, he was absolutely incredible. Guy had amazing skills, dribbling, passing, shooting, blocking, everything. Got close to a quadruple double a few times.

Who has had the better career? Duncan.

By a nose.

Kefka891 · 06-19-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Some great opinions on both sides. Whichever guy you choose, there's not much between them.

Some people seem to think that Popovich made Tim Duncan.

TD's rookie year he had 21pts/11.9Reb/2.5 blk. Pop didn't teach him that.

We also forget that Duncan could have been the no.1 pick in the draft the year before he went to the NBA. That would have added another year of 20 and 10 to his stats.

People keep saying that Duncan is a product of a great system. This is hilarious, the guy would have won anywhere. Would Kobe have?

Kobe even missed the playoffs once or twice. TD didn't. They (Spurs) were a chance EVERY year.

Put Tim Duncan on the teams where Kobe didn't make the playoffs and guess what? Duncan isn't making the playoffs either.

Teams with Kobe have been swept a bunch of times in the Playoffs. I can't think of this EVER happening to a Duncan led team.

Ironically, your Timothy Duncan has been SWEPT by Kobe before, but you must've forgot.

Go back and watch Duncan is his prime, he was absolutely incredible. Guy had amazing skills, dribbling, passing, shooting, blocking, everything. Got close to a quadruple double a few times.

Who has had the better career? Duncan.

By a nose.

Kobe > Duncan.

f1element · 06-19-2014, 11:13 AM

Might as well ask who you like better.

xavieronly1 · 06-19-2014, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Teams with Kobe have been swept a bunch of times in the Playoffs. I can't think of this EVER happening to a Duncan led team.

Spurs fan, Spurs got sweep 2 times (1 by Lakers, 1 by Suns)

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bas Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 484	Accolades are close I give the edge to Duncan, Kobe owns the edge in media/hype which actually does matter its basically popularity then Tim owns the peak/prime argument so its like saying Iverson vs stockton, the more popular guy vs the better player __________________ http://s185.photobucket.com/albums/x16/bas040/

06-19-2014, 07:34 AM	#87
drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,863 drobfan8 drobfan8	Some great opinions on both sides. Whichever guy you choose, there's not much between them. Some people seem to think that Popovich made Tim Duncan. TD's rookie year he had 21pts/11.9Reb/2.5 blk. Pop didn't teach him that. We also forget that Duncan could have been the no.1 pick in the draft the year before he went to the NBA. That would have added another year of 20 and 10 to his stats. People keep saying that Duncan is a product of a great system. This is hilarious, the guy would have won anywhere. Would Kobe have? Kobe even missed the playoffs once or twice. TD didn't. They (Spurs) were a chance EVERY year. Teams with Kobe have been swept a bunch of times in the Playoffs. I can't think of this EVER happening to a Duncan led team. Go back and watch Duncan is his prime, he was absolutely incredible. Guy had amazing skills, dribbling, passing, shooting, blocking, everything. Got close to a quadruple double a few times. Who has had the better career? Duncan. By a nose. __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

06-19-2014, 12:13 AM	#80
Nyfancam01 Banned Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Carolina Posts: 25,890 Nyfancam01 Nyfancam01	Both great players but Kobe is usually ALWAYS mentioned up there with Jordan and James.... I'll take Kobe.

06-19-2014, 11:13 AM	#89
f1element Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 534 f1element	Might as well ask who you like better.