2024-25 Prospecting MEGA hype thread.

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Cam Whitmore and Reed Sheppard are dominating the summer league right now, I def need to buy more Cam

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by brothertona

I absolutely think that if the Pelicans want to contend they'll have to trade Ingram.

What are Pels gonna do without a center?

I guess if Wiseman develops they might swoop on Myles Turner.

[ninjacookies]

CWit's gonna a problem.


If you know; you knew.

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Time for some Trey Murphy

• Takes some really bad 3s. Because he has the Steph range, he thinks he can pull up from 30 feet with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Heat checks are one thing but randomly pulling from 30 feet early in the clock isn't great.
• handle is somewhat loose and sloppy, doesn't really break down guys off the dribble so the shot creation is probably limited
• Uncertain playing time

Basketball outlook: I think his ceiling is a #2 option on a contender. Think Mikal Bridges in his first season in BKN. He's obviously not a #1 guy but he's a really good player who does a little bit of everything well with the elite shooting & defense

Hobby outlook: You're pretty much betting on Ingram getting traded. If Ingram stays on the team there's really not much opportunity for Trey outside of spot up 3s. The key with prospecting imo is finding guys who have on ball potential. Self creation is the key to hobby success, because self creators score the ball.

I think Trey is tremendously underpriced for his potential. If Ingram isn't traded, Trey is an RFA next season so he's gonna get paid. If he's not traded I'm loading the boat this season.

Not buying the Trey hype because he’s 24 and when I think of someone being a #2 option on a contending team I think of Paul George. Paul George in his 3rd season at age 22 was leading the 49-32 Pacers in scoring at 17.4 PPG. Last years New Orleans pelicans had almost the same record as Pacers yet Trey Murphy at age 23 was #4 on the scoring.

With that being said, he is a good player. Now what’s the reasoning behind just buying his rookie cards, and not rookie autos, rpas?

[accollectibles]

Cam Whitmore looked excellent until one team started ganging up on Reed Sheppard. Without Sheppard effectively feeding him the ball Cam struggled. This is not Whitmore's fault at all though. I was very interested in Whitmore last year and thought he handled himself exceptionally well last year in limited minutes. The guy is big enough to bang on the inside and also has a pretty nice outside shot. Having watched a lot of the summer league games you could really tell the guys who had some NBA experience last year from the other players. Keyonte George looked like the most dangerous second year player I watched. He was so good he was only allowed to play two games after scoring 30 plus points in both. Whitmore will probably start for the Rockets this year and do very well, George is on the short path to being a superstar.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

Not buying the Trey hype because he’s 24 and when I think of someone being a #2 option on a contending team I think of Paul George. Paul George in his 3rd season at age 22 was leading the 49-32 Pacers in scoring at 17.4 PPG. Last years New Orleans pelicans had almost the same record as Pacers yet Trey Murphy at age 23 was #4 on the scoring.

With that being said, he is a good player. Now what’s the reasoning behind just buying his rookie cards, and not rookie autos, rpas?

I think it’s mostly not in a players control what their role is. I don’t really hold it against him for not scoring more because he’s behind 3 ball dominators in Zion , CJ, and Ingram

PG was the clear #1 option and had no competition for shots on the Pacers. FWIW I don’t think Trey is as good as PG tho

As for the RC vs RPA vs auto thing.

RPAs are fine but not in the budget for me. $50 is usually max I’ll spend per card.

Otherwise I go for the most liquid stuff as it’s the easiest to flip. Prizm silvers mainly, a little optic, not many other brands outside of that.

When reselling on eBay you’ve gotta list at 50% above what your all in price is to make any money with taxes, fees, shipping, etc…

[jcardstore]

I would be shocked if Whitmore started this season without multiple injuries.

The only guy he might replace would be Brooks and he’s gonna do more of what Ime wants (defend and space the floor).

Whitmore is more of a shot creator than a low usage floor spacer so you’re doing him a disservice by sitting him in the corner and even if you think he’s got defensive potential he’s just not a high level defender right now

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

As for the RC vs RPA vs auto thing.

RPAs are fine but not in the budget for me. $50 is usually max I’ll spend per card.

Otherwise I go for the most liquid stuff as it’s the easiest to flip. Prizm silvers mainly, a little optic, not many other brands outside of that.

When reselling on eBay you’ve gotta list at 50% above what your all in price is to make any money with taxes, fees, shipping, etc…

That makes sense!

[Nomad]

I think probably on reflection, Enrique Freeman and Furfy will be featured in Pacers sets, alongside I imagine Myles, Haliburton, Nembhard, and either Nesmith or Mathurin. Kendall Brown should get a good look elsewhere as an add-on in any trade (Andrew and Ben are both vying to see who wants to stay on Pacers). I think Sheppard is about set to toil in obscurity and miss around 18 months worth of cards. McConnell might appear as a veteran in the odd Biography set or Select (on-card auto). A Carslyle signed retro insert would be genius.

After all, who can forget Isaiah Jackson's put down of I forget. Or Nesmith rolling with Obi's tendency to do Tatum-style hair reference jokes. All in all a good haul year?

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

Another guy that I'm keeping an eye on (haven't bought any cards yet) is Deni Avdija.

He really impressed me last season. He's a little outside of the range where I normally think there's an opportunity card wise

- Big Wing
- Measurable performance improvements each season
- Solid ball handler / playmaker
- Good defensive floor

I like Deni Avdija b/c of how he performed in the FIBA Eurobasket Tournament a couple of years ago.

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

When reselling on eBay you’ve gotta list at 50% above what your all in price is to make any money with taxes, fees, shipping, etc…

I like Nikola Jovic as a prospect and think (if healthy) he will perform well for Serbia in these olympics. But because of this I'm hesitant in prospecting. Just doesn't seem like a good investment long term.

[sportzluvr1]

I hoarded a bunch of Alpi stuff just because i enjoy watching his game. Hope he takes another leap this year.

[yiguiri2002]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

I like Nikola Jovic as a prospect and think (if healthy) he will perform well for Serbia in these olympics. But because of this I'm hesitant in prospecting. Just doesn't seem like a good investment long term.

If you believe in his talent, why not? Miami is a decent market, Jimmy era is almost gone and Bam has never been a #1 option. Who's gonna be the main scorer, Herro who plays 60 games a year?

I'm not high on Jovic, haven't seen enough, but if anyone thinks he has the talent this is the perfect time to go all in on him.

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

If you believe in his talent, why not? Miami is a decent market, Jimmy era is almost gone and Bam has never been a #1 option. Who's gonna be the main scorer, Herro who plays 60 games a year?

I'm not high on Jovic, haven't seen enough, but if anyone thinks he has the talent this is the perfect time to go all in on him.

What RCs are worth collecting these days? There just seems to be so many variations. I am assuming vertical select/prizm for non-auto RCs. And vertical NT RPAs?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

I like Nikola Jovic as a prospect and think (if healthy) he will perform well for Serbia in these olympics. But because of this I'm hesitant in prospecting. Just doesn't seem like a good investment long term.

I added Jovic on all my dynasty teams and I’ve been picking up some cards.

Total long shot but he’s got a decent skill set and I love Heat guys

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by ronaldo943

What RCs are worth collecting these days? There just seems to be so many variations. I am assuming vertical select/prizm for non-auto RCs. And vertical NT RPAs?

The most liquid card for flipping is the silver Prizm.

There is plenty supply, it’s the most demanded card in the hobby, and they’re obtainable for all levels of collector.

The RPAs are fairly illiquid

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

The most liquid card for flipping is the silver Prizm.

There is plenty supply, it’s the most demanded card in the hobby, and they’re obtainable for all levels of collector.

The RPAs are fairly illiquid

Gotcha, thanks!

[nothinbefore]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

I added Jovic on all my dynasty teams and I’ve been picking up some cards.

Total long shot but he’s got a decent skill set and I love Heat guys

I am loaded up on Nikola Jovic, he is still young and was really a rookie year for him last season. Since coach Spo never played him his first year drafted. He has alot of potential and Miami is a good fit for him. Each year he gets stronger and taller too it seems..one of those players 3 years from now wont believe he use to be a skinny twig rookie year..

International players are taking over the league




others i am collecting lowkey here and there also are Bilal Coulibaly, Brice Sensabaugh, Paolo Banchero, Zach Edey, Kel'el
Ware, Cam Thomas

[messier2]

Do you guys prefer investing in one “big” card of a player or a bunch of smaller ones. This is purely for re-sale later on. Thanks!

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by messier2

Do you guys prefer investing in one “big” card of a player or a bunch of smaller ones. This is purely for re-sale later on. Thanks!

I usually just end up buying a bunch of low end stuff but it’s probably easier to just sell 1 big card

Just keep in mind “big” cards are far less liquid so you might not be able to get the price you want

[SteveIsLegend]

Originally Posted by nothinbefore

others i am collecting lowkey here and there also are Bilal Coulibaly, Brice Sensabaugh, Paolo Banchero, Zach Edey, Kel'el
Ware, Cam Thomas

I liked the idea of Sensabaugh coming into the year but watched him play in Summer League and he looked awful... thankfully prices are fairly low anyways.

[SteveIsLegend]

Originally Posted by messier2

Do you guys prefer investing in one “big” card of a player or a bunch of smaller ones. This is purely for re-sale later on. Thanks!

I'm open to smaller cards as long as they're not base, retail inserts, or retail parallels... there's just way too supply out there for the prices of those really to take off in my opinion.

[messier2]

Gotcha, thanks guys! I feel that the lower end stuff (cracked red/pink ice PSA 10's) are easier to move than a gold /10. Easier to throw into deals, etc. For the gold, you have to get the right buyer with deeper pockets willing to sink some money into an unproven player.

I think I'll go the low end (no base) 10 route!

[boxbuster7]

Big fan of Avdija - surprised the wizards got rid of him

[ronaldo943]

Originally Posted by nothinbefore

I am loaded up on Nikola Jovic, he is still young and was really a rookie year for him last season. Since coach Spo never played him his first year drafted. He has alot of potential and Miami is a good fit for him. Each year he gets stronger and taller too it seems..one of those players 3 years from now wont believe he use to be a skinny twig rookie year..

International players are taking over the league

others i am collecting lowkey here and there also are Bilal Coulibaly, Brice Sensabaugh, Paolo Banchero, Zach Edey, Kel'el
Ware, Cam Thomas

Yep, especially any player coming out of Slovenia / Serbia. Have to take a flyer on them, lol.