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Old 08-01-2024, 12:21 PM   #76
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Just bought 2 more for 5 total so far.. contemplating a couple more lol
This product will still be readily available at MSRP across many platforms.

You might want to consider waiting for F to drop them because then you'd be able to apply $50 F GCs (purchased for $40 from other sites) to get them for $160 (+ tax, if applicable) shipped and build up some FCash credit too.

Although you can't change the past, if you had done it like this, you could've gotten your 5 boxes for the price of 4.
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Old 08-01-2024, 12:28 PM   #77
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This product will still be readily available at MSRP across many platforms.

You might want to consider waiting for F to drop them because then you'd be able to apply $50 F GCs (purchased for $40 from other sites) to get them for $160 (+ tax, if applicable) shipped and build up some FCash credit too.

Although you can't change the past, if you had done it like this, you could've gotten your 5 boxes for the price of 4.
10-4, thanks for the tip. I don't typically break - so kind of new to me. Bought a case of the 2021 at $700, but never pre-ordered. Bummer, but not huge deal. They may price at $199 too like mid did, which has a similar kickback depending on how much you spend.
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Old 08-01-2024, 12:38 PM   #78
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10-4, thanks for the tip. I don't typically break - so kind of new to me. Bought a case of the 2021 at $700, but never pre-ordered. Bummer, but not huge deal. They may price at $199 too like mid did, which has a similar kickback depending on how much you spend.
No problem at all!

I only preorder products that I anticipate having a really hard time securing at MSRP.

I don't think 2024 TC Tennis will be one of those products because the print-run is HUGE (there's nearly 2000 base parallels for a given base card) and it's still a relatively niche sport. Put shortly, I expect supply to greatly exceed demand.

Irrespective of price, I think it's an awesome product for tennis collectors.
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Old 08-01-2024, 12:45 PM   #79
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No problem at all!

I only preorder products that I anticipate having a really hard time securing at MSRP.

I don't think 2024 TC Tennis will be one of those products because the print-run is HUGE (there's nearly 2000 base parallels for a given base card) and it's still a relatively niche sport. Put shortly, I expect supply to greatly exceed demand.

Irrespective of price, I think it's an awesome product for tennis collectors.
Right on - Hopefully it will drop in the future. Could be another expensive lesson learned.
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Old 08-01-2024, 12:56 PM   #80
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Right on - Hopefully it will drop in the future. Could be another expensive lesson learned.
It could drop but it could also remain stable and/or increase. The latter variables depend on checklist strength and how group breakers do with it (if they can easily/strong sell spots, they'll keep demanding the product, and prop up sealed wax price).

Honestly, with the direction that Fanatics is going, even if group breakers don't want to break certain products, they're probably being incentivized (or punished if they don't) to do so.

I'm sure Fanatics will market it too. They're about making money and successful products means more (potential) money for future releases. Products that bomb don't help them.

So who knows?

One positive is that you plan to rip so you can recoup some cost by listing early.
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Old 08-03-2024, 04:03 PM   #81
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Not really related to the topps release, but djokovic v. Alcaraz tommorow for gold - 6:00 am est
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Old 08-03-2024, 05:18 PM   #82
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No problem at all!

I only preorder products that I anticipate having a really hard time securing at MSRP.

I don't think 2024 TC Tennis will be one of those products because the print-run is HUGE (there's nearly 2000 base parallels for a given base card) and it's still a relatively niche sport. Put shortly, I expect supply to greatly exceed demand.

Irrespective of price, I think it's an awesome product for tennis collectors.
So you REALLY thought Topps Olympics blasters would be hard to secure at MSRP? lol If so that was a really bad prediction as those are everywhere.

Seems you love that set and hate this one lol supply exceeding demand also doesn't mean prices will immediately drop and if you want to rip in a timely manner and not worry about having the money aside when it drops I see no issue pre-ordering. Topps UFC products have been that way and I haven't seen price drops on Chrome or UFC Midnight yet, maybe they still will but again some don't want to wait.

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Old 08-03-2024, 05:39 PM   #83
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So you REALLY thought Topps Olympics blasters would be hard to secure at MSRP? lol If so that was a really bad prediction as those are everywhere.

Seems you love that set and hate this one lol supply exceeding demand also doesn't mean prices will immediately drop and if you want to rip in a timely manner and not worry about having the money aside when it drops I see no issue pre-ordering. Topps UFC products have been that way and I haven't seen price drops on Chrome or UFC Midnight yet, maybe they still will but again some don't want to wait.
People can buy what they want but I just don't see 95% of those Olympic cards holding their value. IMO the checklist was terrible - none of the women's gymnastic team, none of the best track stars, no Lebron, no Richardson, etc. Phelps and Ledecky are selling well but in two weeks, I see singles dropping like a rock for that product.
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Old 08-03-2024, 07:45 PM   #84
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Yeah, I mostly bought early because I didn't want to wait. Didn't buy a whole lot - just 5 hobby boxes. Will probably buy into some breaks too.

Topps olympic looked fun, but I'm not familiar enough with all the athletes to consider buying

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Old 08-06-2024, 01:46 PM   #85
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So you REALLY thought Topps Olympics blasters would be hard to secure at MSRP? lol If so that was a really bad prediction as those are everywhere.

Seems you love that set and hate this one lol supply exceeding demand also doesn't mean prices will immediately drop and if you want to rip in a timely manner and not worry about having the money aside when it drops I see no issue pre-ordering. Topps UFC products have been that way and I haven't seen price drops on Chrome or UFC Midnight yet, maybe they still will but again some don't want to wait.
2024 TC Olympics is a great-value product at MSRP (and even a slight premium above it), even with singles declining in price as more gets ripped and listed on eBay.

2024 TC Tennis is a poor value product at MSRP. As expected though, $200 pre-order hobby box prices have already fallen down to as low as $160 per. We'll probably see them fall more over time.

I don't hate the 2024 TC Tennis product but the entry price-point is absurd. Applying basic math skills will show you how ridiculous it is. It has all the recipes for a crap product (high price-point which is fortunately falling, overproduction, niche sport, etc). Because supply significantly exceeds demand, wax prices have nowhere but down to go.

For anyone who pre-ordered the product that plans to list cards, since you can't get out of your pre-order, you just have to rip and list fast. Single prices are going to drop rapidly (there's nearly ~2000 numbered parallels per base card alone) but the early listing premiums will definitely help recoup funds.
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Old 08-06-2024, 02:11 PM   #86
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2024 TC Olympics is a great-value product at MSRP (and even a slight premium above it), even with singles declining in price as more gets ripped and listed on eBay.

2024 TC Tennis is a poor value product at MSRP. As expected though, $200 pre-order hobby box prices have already fallen down to as low as $160 per. We'll probably see them fall more over time.

I don't hate the 2024 TC Tennis product but the entry price-point is absurd. Applying basic math skills will show you how ridiculous it is. It has all the recipes for a crap product (high price-point which is fortunately falling, overproduction, niche sport, etc). Because supply significantly exceeds demand, wax prices have nowhere but down to go.

For anyone who pre-ordered the product that plans to list cards, since you can't get out of your pre-order, you just have to rip and list fast. Single prices are going to drop rapidly (there's nearly ~2000 numbered parallels per base card alone) but the early listing premiums will definitely help recoup funds.
I think we'll agree to disagree. I can't think of a product that will drop faster than the Olympics cards. It's going to be like Christmas songs on the charts from December to January. People better sell what they have right now.
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Old 08-06-2024, 02:37 PM   #87
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I think we'll agree to disagree. I can't think of a product that will drop faster than the Olympics cards. It's going to be like Christmas songs on the charts from December to January. People better sell what they have right now.
You’re about to see it in TC Tennis.
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Old 08-06-2024, 06:43 PM   #88
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You’re about to see it in TC Tennis.
I hope you're right - I'd love to grab a few cases on the cheap. The checklist looks strong enough for me and each box is loaded compared to 2021. Thousands of parallels sounds about par for the course nowadays.

I was surprised about how many cases of 2021 were getting ripped. This go around will be a great test for the tennis card demand, which is hard to estimate -- so this should all be very interesting.
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Old 08-07-2024, 09:07 PM   #89
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Djokovic supposedly in the set according to one site
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Old 08-07-2024, 11:33 PM   #90
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According to Sports Collectors Daily- Venus, Djokovic, and Gauff autos in the Topps Tennis releases. Not specifically noted whether they were all set to be in chrome specifically but was info from the Topps summit earlier this year
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Old 08-08-2024, 09:34 AM   #91
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Those are big additions
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This one might get expensive
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This one might get expensive
Nah it's straight to the bargain bin! lolll jk
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I hope you're right - I'd love to grab a few cases on the cheap. The checklist looks strong enough for me and each box is loaded compared to 2021. Thousands of parallels sounds about par for the course nowadays.

I was surprised about how many cases of 2021 were getting ripped. This go around will be a great test for the tennis card demand, which is hard to estimate -- so this should all be very interesting.
Including Djokovic (as well as Gauff/Venus) would change things up. Prices wouldn't moon but they certainly wouldn't crater as if they weren't included in the set as demand will increase (for rippers/holders/flippers).

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Those are big additions
Definitely would be big additions if included in the TC set.

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This one might get expensive
If Djokovic/Gauff/Venus autos are included in the set, prices will hold up a lot stronger at $200, that's for sure.
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I’m not going to preorder until it’s confirmed. Would be a mega bummer if preordered and then they aren’t there…


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Djokovic supposedly in the set according to one site
Two cards away from having one of every one of his cards. Now I may have to work on another rainbow or two...
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Old 08-08-2024, 11:02 AM   #97
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I’m not going to preorder until it’s confirmed. Would be a mega bummer if preordered and then they aren’t there…


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Hahaha, have you been reminded of 2022 TC BB? :P
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Topps today said Agassi will have chrome autos


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Where did they say this?

If true, definitely a step in the right direction.
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Old 08-08-2024, 03:59 PM   #100
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Figured it'd be helpful to document the heavy hitters in one post.

What we know is included:
1. CA autos

What might also be included (need sources to verify):

1. Iga
2. Djokovic
3. Venus
4. Gauff
5. Agassi
6. Autos of players from the 2021 TC Tennis: No source but just an assumption of no contractual issues
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