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Old 03-01-2024, 06:22 PM   #76
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PED’ed his way to 40,000. Amazing. Debate is over. Lebron is the king/goat!!!!
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:24 PM   #77
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Que gomiami posting about how Durant dominated Lebron in those 2 series ignoring the factual stats that’s I’ve posted to the contrary. Durant got the wins though and that’s what matters in the grand scheme. Would curry be held in such high regard if not for Durant coming and winning those 2 titles/fmvps?
Curry drawing the defense's attention helped Durant to dominate easily-

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Old 03-01-2024, 06:28 PM   #78
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Durant is a Lebron-slayer.

He is 9-5 against Bron in the finals.

If the warriors had the chances to beat Lebron without Durant and they won, Curry would be held in even higher regard. He won without Durant later anyways. Lebron failed to make the playoffs that year to deprive Curry the chance to beat him again.
Lebron slayer...hopping the an already great team when he couldnt with a lesser supporting cast in
OKC. I'm sure you'll blame westbrook and harden though..or they were too young..or Lebron wasn't the reason they won that finals or whatever else excuse you want to use to diminish Lebron
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:29 PM   #79
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Curry drawing the defense's attention helped Durant to dominate easily-

And Durant and klay drawing defense didn’t help Steph? There was no way anyone was beating that team while healthy. To much firepower while playing defense is impossible to overcome. 3 players in their prime capable of scoring 50 any given night. I bet coaches absolutely hated trying to come up with a game plan.
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:31 PM   #80
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Lebron slayer...hopping the an already great team when he couldnt with a lesser supporting cast in
OKC. I'm sure you'll blame westbrook and harden though..or they were too young..or Lebron wasn't the reason they won that finals or whatever else excuse you want to use to diminish Lebron
Durant is every bit a super team hopper as Lebron. Well almost.

Doesn’t change the fact he has a better head to head finals record despite both of their hopping…..
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:36 PM   #81
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Durant is every bit a super team hopper as Lebron. Well almost.

Doesn’t change the fact he has a better head to head finals record despite both of their hopping…..
Yeah playing with the best shooter in NBA history and another one of the best shooters kinda helps doesn't it? I mean you use that arguement with Lebron and his help. Warriors supporting cast adding Durant was way better than the Cavs team that made the finals. All of this is for nothing though because you've made up your mind on Lebron and nothing he accomplishes matters in your eyes bc there's always something you can find to tear it down
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:37 PM   #82
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What kind of answer are you looking for?

I see a guy with hairy armpits.

There.
no armpits showing on the '16 Court Kings

seems your hate has consumed you
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:48 PM   #83
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Yeah playing with the best shooter in NBA history and another one of the best shooters kinda helps doesn't it? I mean you use that arguement with Lebron and his help. Warriors supporting cast adding Durant was way better than the Cavs team that made the finals. All of this is for nothing though because you've made up your mind on Lebron and nothing he accomplishes matters in your eyes bc there's always something you can find to tear it down
When it comes down to it for Lebron apologists, it’s always someone else’s fault or someone else’s advantage, never Lebron’s shortcomings.

His playoff miss two years ago and his playoff sweeping last year exemplifies that - the inner contradiction is palpable for Bron boulder holders.

He can’t be the greatest of all time yet miss the playoffs despite his superhuman abilities and then get swept in the playoffs the following year despite being in the best shape he has ever been even for an old guy. Blame the lakers, blame his teammates. Blame, blame, blame.

It’s you, Lebron. Lebron apologists simply need to repeat after me.

It’s you, Lebron.
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:51 PM   #84
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Durant is every bit a super team hopper as Lebron. Well almost.

Doesn’t change the fact he has a better head to head finals record despite both of their hopping…..
I would love to see your breakdown analysis of Lebron super team hopping. Miami sure, wade was already a champion and a top player in the league albeit he was already breaking down and Bosh was really good leading his team to 2 first round playoff loses. How was an unproven young kyrie and love a super team? The lakers were definitely not a super team. Yeah they traded and got ad the next season but I don’t think anyone looks at the lakers as a super team. Kd had 2 mvp caliber players in Okc, went to the 73 win warriors that just came off two straight finals, had a seasoned experienced kyrie and harden in Brooklyn (injuries ruined that experiment), and now went to Phoenix with booker plus Beal. Nothing compares to Durant going to the warriors. Changed history. Imagine shaq going to Utah and the jazz winning in 96-97 and 97-98. I would probably still have mj as the goat watching how he played his career but 4-2 in the finals sounds much worse then 6-0 in the goat debate when that’s the dominant context being used.
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Old 03-01-2024, 06:52 PM   #85
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When it comes down to it for Lebron apologists, it’s always someone else’s fault or someone else’s advantage, never Lebron’s shortcomings.

His playoff miss two years ago and his playoff sweeping last year exemplifies that - the inner contradiction is palpable for Bron boulder holders.

He can’t be the greatest of all time yet miss the playoffs despite his superhuman abilities and then get swept in the playoffs the following year despite being in the best shape he has ever been even for an old guy. Blame the lakers, blame his teammates. Blame, blame, blame.

It’s you, Lebron. Lebron apologists simply need to repeat after me.

It’s you, Lebron.
he wasn't the best player in the '15 through '18 finals?

you can answer with a simple yes or no

so won't be expecting an answer
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When it comes down to it for Lebron apologists, it’s always someone else’s fault or someone else’s advantage, never Lebron’s shortcomings.

His playoff miss two years ago and his playoff sweeping last year exemplifies that - the inner contradiction is palpable for Bron boulder holders.

He can’t be the greatest of all time yet miss the playoffs despite his superhuman abilities and then get swept in the playoffs the following year despite being in the best shape he has ever been even for an old guy. Blame the lakers, blame his teammates. Blame, blame, blame.

It’s you, Lebron. Lebron apologists simply need to repeat after me.

It’s you, Lebron.
Far from a lebron apologist..MJ all the way i can also be a realist when it comes to Lebron. You're just as bad as apologist. As much as apologists make excuses whem he fails..you make excuses when he doesn't. Same exact thing. His titles are fake..his stats are stat padding..etc. Yet you think you can somehow take some high ground lol.
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When it comes down to it for Lebron apologists, it’s always someone else’s fault or someone else’s advantage, never Lebron’s shortcomings.

His playoff miss two years ago and his playoff sweeping last year exemplifies that - the inner contradiction is palpable for Bron boulder holders.

He can’t be the greatest of all time yet miss the playoffs despite his superhuman abilities and then get swept in the playoffs the following year despite being in the best shape he has ever been even for an old guy. Blame the lakers, blame his teammates. Blame, blame, blame.

It’s you, Lebron. Lebron apologists simply need to repeat after me.

It’s you, Lebron.
You’re a weird dude
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:09 PM   #88
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he wasn't the best player in the '15 through '18 finals?

you can answer with a simple yes or no

so won't be expecting an answer
Please give me your definition of best, because you are asking guided and misleading questions.

Lebron has the greatest overall basketball talent and the greatest basketball toolbox “the best” in the history of the NBA, along with Shaq.

He has always been the “best” player on the court whenever he plays. Unfortunately, he loses when it counts more often than he wins. So as a winner, he is far from being the “best”. As an athlete, he has had the “best” tools to play with ever.

Utter disappoint that he didn’t accomplish more team success in the NBA. Just like shaq.
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:11 PM   #89
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Far from a lebron apologist..MJ all the way i can also be a realist when it comes to Lebron. You're just as bad as apologist. As much as apologists make excuses whem he fails..you make excuses when he doesn't. Same exact thing. His titles are fake..his stats are stat padding..etc. Yet you think you can somehow take some high ground lol.
I simply can’t get over his millennialness. He doesn’t have the ability to see the big picture as he is too hung up on himself. Sorry.
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:19 PM   #90
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I would love to see your breakdown analysis of Lebron super team hopping. Miami sure, wade was already a champion and a top player in the league albeit he was already breaking down and Bosh was really good leading his team to 2 first round playoff loses. How was an unproven young kyrie and love a super team? The lakers were definitely not a super team. Yeah they traded and got ad the next season but I don’t think anyone looks at the lakers as a super team. Kd had 2 mvp caliber players in Okc, went to the 73 win warriors that just came off two straight finals, had a seasoned experienced kyrie and harden in Brooklyn (injuries ruined that experiment), and now went to Phoenix with booker plus Beal. Nothing compares to Durant going to the warriors. Changed history. Imagine shaq going to Utah and the jazz winning in 96-97 and 97-98. I would probably still have mj as the goat watching how he played his career but 4-2 in the finals sounds much worse then 6-0 in the goat debate when that’s the dominant context being used.
Opportunistic Mebron came back to join a number one pick Kyrie who bailed him out multiple times and a future hall of famer KLove. Didn’t leswept win half a Disney ring with a pre-plannned recruitment of future HOF AD just so he could propel his Hollywood career, betraying his hometown TWICE in the process? He couldn’t get anyone to play with him despite begging everyone under 6’10”, he couldn’t get anyone to coach him either. He didn’t realize he was his own virus.
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You’re a weird dude
It’s fine if you want to invest in Lebron if you think you can make money off his cards.

If you actually like Lebron, you’re weird.
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It’s fine if you want to invest in Lebron if you think you can make money off his cards.

If you actually like Lebron, you’re weird.
You’re a weird dude
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Old 03-01-2024, 07:35 PM   #93
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Did the GOAT debate start after that win?

It depends:

For LeBron fanboys? It started with his first title.
For Jordan fanboys? It hasn't started yet.
For everyone in between? It was either then, after the bubble championship or around/after the scoring record.
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Dear lord hermano, it can’t get any worse than this. I hope one day you find peace.
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Old 03-01-2024, 08:11 PM   #95
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Dear lord hermano, it can’t get any worse than this. I hope one day you find peace.
I find it to be quite funny. His obsession with the guy has lasted years.
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It's highly unlikely anyone reaches 40K again, unless the NBA adds games/changes rules and the culture changes where players are trying to play every single game.

In a 20 year career, you'd have to average 24.4 ppg and not miss any games. If you only play 15 years and don't miss a single game, you'd need to avg more than 32.5 you're entire career. And given the amount of money these guys are making today, gonna be tough to find another guy willing and able to play 20+ years in the NBA.

Luka has a good career scoring avg (28.5) but he's only played more than 70 games once and that was his rookie season.

Appreciate LeBron while he's still playing. Love him or hate him, some of the things he's done on the court won't be done again. He's done/said some regrettable things, but for a guy to come into the league with this much hype and deliver like he has, that's pretty amazing.






Well said.

Of everyone who has been hyped in multiple sports over the last twenty years, Lebron has absolutely lived up to expectations.


He's polarizing for sure, made several mistakes, but clearly in the top 5 NBA all time.
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The most amazing series I’ve ever seen. Coming back from 3-1 down against the 73 win warriors, leading all players in points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks, while averaging 36/12/10/3/3 through the last 3 games with their back against the wall is nothing short of legendary.



I did not realize he put up those numbers in those games.


Damn impressive.
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I did not realize he put up those numbers in those games.


Damn impressive.
The year before when they lost without Kyrie and Love, he also did it, but not just for three games, for the entire series.

I still can’t believe Iguodala got finals MVP. If we were ever going to see another player from the losing team win finals mvp, it would have been Lebron that year.

Led both teams in literally every category for the series. Somehow it went 6 games with Dellavadova as the Cavs 2nd best player.

That Lebron that year was the best all around basketball player I have ever seen.
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Hermano the reverse Nomad confirmed. Nomad pumps low tier players and the universe gave us Hermano to neg an all time great to balance things out.
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I did not realize he put up those numbers in those games.


Damn impressive.
it was. not only putting in the offensive work but being the best defender and absolutely controlling each game. locked in.
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