First Buzz: 2022 Bowman Chrome University football cards

[Row]

Originally Posted by jkampis

You’d have to ask Brock Bowers that. Surely, they tried to work a deal with him.

You'd have to imagine so right? There's no real reason why they wouldn't have him in the checklist again.

He's been signing heaps for other brands like Superglow, Players Trunk and Leaf, so a bit odd he'd say no to Topps though

[jplarson]

Hopefully whoever the Bears wind up drafting is already in this product.

[TheFrenzy]

So will the "1st" logo work with these? Will the guys who had "1st" cards in Bowman University not have these logos or is it different since this is the chrome version and guys will have the logo in both sets (but with the original Bowman University cards not having university logos)?

[Row]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

So will the "1st" logo work with these? Will the guys who had "1st" cards in Bowman University not have these logos or is it different since this is the chrome version and guys will have the logo in both sets (but with the original Bowman University cards not having university logos)?

This is the big question. Can't really tell from the preview images.

I'd like to think that those who had 1st designations in the last release don't have them in the new release. Would like the first release to be significant (regardless of license absence).

[ninjacookies]

Don't think the 1st logo will matter at all. Most clecters don't want airbrushed garbage (Panini beisbol, Leaf, Goodwin) if given a viable alternative. Funny watching breakers guess what school half the guys on the checklist play for.

Sucks for people that paid moolah for last year's stuff, but it is what it is. Now this stuff certainly isn't grade A unobtanium, but at least it'll be the only officially licensed material before the draft that actually looks nice, with the chrome cardstock to boot.

Which should offer a decent flipping grace period for the rungoodlife crowd.

[glassofwater]

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

So will the "1st" logo work with these? Will the guys who had "1st" cards in Bowman University not have these logos or is it different since this is the chrome version and guys will have the logo in both sets (but with the original Bowman University cards not having university logos)?

Yes look a the previews bryce young, and cj storud dont have 1st bowman on their mock ups. However people like caleb have 1st on the card..

Anyone buying a Blaster Case? I have about 600 in topps credit, and at 1k its 500 less than a hobby case. Last year #cards fell at about 1 a blaster, So you have the possibly to get way more #cards in a blaster case. if they didn't up the print run to much.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Don't think the 1st logo will matter at all. Most clecters don't want airbrushed garbage (Panini beisbol, Leaf, Goodwin) if given a viable alternative. Funny watching breakers guess what school half the guys on the checklist play for.

Sucks for people that paid moolah for last year's stuff, but it is what it is. Now this stuff certainly isn't grade A unobtanium, but at least it'll be the only officially licensed material before the draft that actually looks nice, with the chrome cardstock to boot.

Which should offer a decent flipping grace period for the rungoodlife crowd.

On the flip side, this will not make the negative Karen, I’m going to piss on every non nfl product crowd happy. At all. They big mad right meow.

And make no mistake. This board is filled with them.

Can’t wait for this to release.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

Yes look a the previews bryce young, and cj storud dont have 1st bowman on their mock ups. However people like caleb have 1st on the card..

Anyone buying a Blaster Case? I have about 600 in topps credit, and at 1k its 500 less than a hobby case. Last year #cards fell at about 1 a blaster, So you have the possibly to get way more #cards in a blaster case. if they didn't up the print run to much.

40 box case?

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

On the flip side, this will not make the negative Karen, I’m going to piss on every non nfl product crowd happy. At all. They big mad right meow.

And make no mistake. This board is filled with them.

Can’t wait for this to release.

Less than 2 weeks, brother. My body is so preemptively ready. Hope there's plenty of gold vinyl pattern lying in them there boxes of yours.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by glassofwater

Yes look a the previews bryce young, and cj storud dont have 1st bowman on their mock ups. However people like caleb have 1st on the card..

Anyone buying a Blaster Case? I have about 600 in topps credit, and at 1k its 500 less than a hobby case. Last year #cards fell at about 1 a blaster, So you have the possibly to get way more #cards in a blaster case. if they didn't up the print run to much.

Just bought a few boxes of Hobby

[coachpurdy]

Anyone seen any pre-order info from Topps yet?

[glassofwater]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

40 box case?

Case of blasters is 40.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

On the flip side, this will not make the negative Karen, I’m going to piss on every non nfl product crowd happy. At all. They big mad right meow.

And make no mistake. This board is filled with them.

Can’t wait for this to release.

It's not Poopnini, so I'll save my p*ss.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

It's not Poopnini, so I'll save my p*ss.

We got the savior of football (and Ohio states daddy), JJ McCarthy, with his first licensed card.

Need we say more?

To the moon.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Don't think the 1st logo will matter at all. Most clecters don't want airbrushed garbage (Panini beisbol, Leaf, Goodwin) if given a viable alternative. Funny watching breakers guess what school half the guys on the checklist play for.

Sucks for people that paid moolah for last year's stuff, but it is what it is. Now this stuff certainly isn't grade A unobtanium, but at least it'll be the only officially licensed material before the draft that actually looks nice, with the chrome cardstock to boot.

Which should offer a decent flipping grace period for the rungoodlife crowd.

1st works in Baseball because there is a decent timeframe between 1st Bowman and RC usually. In Football you are talking months between the draft and pro Uni RCs. So they would appeal to college team collectors and flippers looking to cash in between draft and RC. Otherwise no college uni cards hold big long term value in Football and that is all these are.

[Row]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

1st works in Baseball because there is a decent timeframe between 1st Bowman and RC usually. In Football you are talking months between the draft and pro Uni RCs. So they would appeal to college team collectors and flippers looking to cash in between draft and RC. Otherwise no college uni cards hold big long term value in Football and that is all these are.

Unless you're chasing the 1st's of players that are still in College. Thats where the designation has more meaning for me.

Agree with your overall point though, for the College players that are immediately about to go into the NFL, this just makes it another draft product. I avoided a lot of those players on the first Bowman release, didn't see much point in buying when licensed rookie cards were available.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

1st works in Baseball because there is a decent timeframe between 1st Bowman and RC usually. In Football you are talking months between the draft and pro Uni RCs. So they would appeal to college team collectors and flippers looking to cash in between draft and RC. Otherwise no college uni cards hold big long term value in Football and that is all these are.

You make a good point. In the past, college uniform auto cards were released in the same year as rookie cards in pro-uniforms. This was because you couldn't pay college athletes. In my opinion this took away most of the appeal for college uniform cards.

I do believe the first Bowman autos will now carry some weight (not to the extent they do in baseball) because many of these players will have a first licensed auto from a reputable product prior to their rookie season. If I am a player collector/fan, I would want a first Bowman auto in my collection. Especially when you consider some of these players will have a first Bowman auto a couple years before their rookie NFL season. Could this create a bigger fan base for some of these college athletes? We see here every day how collectors/investors can be when they own cards of a certain player.

It will also give flippers/investors a chance to play the market on players during their rookie season. Traditionally many of the best rookie cards don't come out until after the season is over.

Having said all that, these may end up getting very little interest going forward, but I am at least intrigued to see how the market for these develops over time. The card market to me is fascinating in so many ways. There are cards that go for crazy money that make no sense to me and other cards that I feel would be highly sought after but have no market at all.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Row

Unless you're chasing the 1st's of players that are still in College. Thats where the designation has more meaning for me.

Agree with your overall point though, for the College players that are immediately about to go into the NFL, this just makes it another draft product. I avoided a lot of those players on the first Bowman release, didn't see much point in buying when licensed rookie cards were available.

With Baseball there is the immediate MLB team association. The window between draft and RC will still be small where there will likely be a value bump. Without an NFL team association it becomes another draft product.

At least it can check the box for college fans, as opposed to last years abomination.

[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

1st works in Baseball because there is a decent timeframe between 1st Bowman and RC usually. In Football you are talking months between the draft and pro Uni RCs. So they would appeal to college team collectors and flippers looking to cash in between draft and RC. Otherwise no college uni cards hold big long term value in Football and that is all these are.

Have not/would not ever tout these as medium to long term holds. Collegiate football cards are exactly what they've always been. For die-hards and those looking to scalp public interest leading up to the draft and before the arrival of officially licensed NFL offerings.


I think the most interesting aspect in all this is whether or not Panini will decide to manufacture collegiate products for the 2023 calendar year with the new NIL deals in place. Topps/Fanatics were the first one to step up to the plate, and secured exclusive rights with a few schools. Unsure if Panini is even interested in this segment anymore considering they basically already have one foot out the door.

Either way, these should have some good interest til at least April as the Kiper mocks begin navigating their way through the blogosphere.

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

We got the savior of football (and Ohio states daddy), JJ McCarthy, with his first licensed card.

Need we say more?

To the moon.

If you pull an extra of 3rd Baseman Ryan Day's father, I'm a buyer.

[Row]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

With Baseball there is the immediate MLB team association. The window between draft and RC will still be small where there will likely be a value bump. Without an NFL team association it becomes another draft product.

At least it can check the box for college fans, as opposed to last years abomination.

You don't think there is potential for this to be a true prospecting set?

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Row

You don't think there is potential for this to be a true prospecting set?

The price point is good for prospecting and I guarantee you if you want to flip some stuff fast for $$, pull a Caleb WIlliams, Bryce young, Stroud, or Levis, Richardson, etc and see how much people throw at it- those cards are going pretty high on EBay for unlicensed stuff as we speak. Same goes w/ McCarthy and a couple other ones

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Row

You don't think there is potential for this to be a true prospecting set?

As a niche set for prospectors, yes.

But as in noted, the lack of any NFL team affiliation is going to severely limit it. Like any other draft set. The only difference is with this set, you’ll have a larger window for some players before the value plummets. Of course we also know eventually the checklist is going to become bloated and you are going to have overprinting and over signing as well for big name guys.

[TheFrenzy]

Why does Blowout always make me feel so isolated and alone as a college collector?

My Upper Deck black&white /10 cards are some of the crown jewels of my collection.

[EBCollectibles]

I have 2 cases of Hobby on release day.