new vid from SCR, any one have a pic of this post / card?

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by 90skid

This part I have to agree. Imagine if this card belonged to any one of us. There's no way any customer would have been able to do what he just did.

I mean, there is a review process?

https://www.psacard.com/services/tra...grading/review

If this was brought up to customer service, I'm not sure why they would deny someone from doing it whether they were the original submitter or a review from a concerned buyer?

[90skid]

What I mean is like how Nat can just presumably skip the line in front of everyone else and command a grader check through his stuff again. I do appreciate his follow up postings today but I bet it would have taken a lot longer as a normal paying customer.

With that said, I still can't believe he would not have inspected that card further once he broke it out of the BGS 9.5 slab - just all kind of mind boggling how this played out.

[DanTheCardMan]

Originally Posted by 90skid

What I mean is like how Nat can just presumably skip the line in front of everyone else and command a grader check through his stuff again. I do appreciate his follow up postings today but I bet it would have taken a lot longer as a normal paying customer.

With that said, I still can't believe he would not have inspected that card further once he broke it out of the BGS 9.5 slab - just all kind of mind boggling how this played out.

Just to clarify, as far as I am aware, I don't think it has been confirmed that Nat cracked this out prior to submission.

Think if it went in graded it might more easily speak to why the error occurred i.e. some bias seeing it in the BGS slab to a 10. This is still rather unlikely though given how many people get smashed on crossovers when sending a card in inside a rival TPG slab. I am also not sure how the grading process works for crossovers. Does the grader crack it out themselves or do they receive the card raw to remove the chance of bias.

Putting my external audit hat on, the latter would be far superior from a strong control environment perspective.

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by DanTheCardMan

Just to clarify, as far as I am aware, I don't think it has been confirmed that Nat cracked this out prior to submission.

Think if it went in graded it might more easily speak to why the error occurred i.e. some bias seeing it in the BGS slab to a 10. This is still rather unlikely though given how many people get smashed on crossovers when sending a card in inside a rival TPG slab. I am also not sure how the grading process works for crossovers. Does the grader crack it out themselves or do they receive the card raw to remove the chance of bias.

Putting my external audit hat on, the latter would be far superior from a strong control environment perspective.

I mean, the thing is when it's ownership sending in his cards and he not only didn't get smashed, but got a 10 with the surface issue and also considering the UD Champions of the Court card also being a 10 it looks suspicious as all hell to anyone being objective.

As an side, BGS is also dirty. Worse than what we're currently discussing as potential shady business.

[DanTheCardMan]

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

I mean, the thing is when it's ownership sending in his cards and he not only didn't get smashed, but got a 10 with the surface issue and also considering the UD Champions of the Court card also being a 10 it looks suspicious as all hell to anyone being objective.

As an side, BGS is also dirty. Worse than what we're currently discussing as potential shady business.

This is where the questions come in and why I made my videos.

I work as an External Auditor and when it comes to risks associated with my independence and potential conflicts of interest, the perception to the market is everything.

We need to do whatever we can to mitigate that perception as much as possible. The easiest way for us to do this is to keep things at arms length by ensuring we do not work on certain engagements or clients if a threat, no matter how small, could be perceived to occur.

I think that needs to occur in this instance. It sucks, especially if no one is doing anything wrong but it's not the first time TPG in a hobby related industry has implemented something like this.

I really hope he comes out and updates on the Champions of the Court issue.

[AbraCalabro]

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[badkarma318]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpULJkuqc0&t=334s

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by badkarma318

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpULJkuqc0&t=334s

4:42