Come visit Meelypops at the 2022 AC National

[Badger Ben]

Originally Posted by shaner1

Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't the GI Joe fault lie with BBCE ?
If I buy an authenticated sealed box/case, and later learn it's a bullsh+t box/case....I would go directly after the authentication company.

How dare someone come on here and talk blasphemy about the great BBCE!

People in the past would get smacked down on here if someone even remotely questioned BBCE.

Conflict of interest for BBCE to submit and sell PSA graded cards and packs while they authenticate them? Nah….mind your own business and move along!

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Selling the mis-authenticated product wasn’t the bad part. Not paying back immediately was the bad part.

The bad part started when the guy (meelypoops) who thinks he’s a card expert, thought he could make people believe that he got duped.

If you thought the case was legit during the original purchase, you are a moron.

If you knew the case wasn’t legit, you are a scammer.

Meelypoops has elected to be a moron, because that’s the lesser of two evils.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by shaner1

Watched the video - definitely good info.

Just my thoughts: if BBCE says that case is NOT Authentic, there are no further transactions. It's fake.
Then Meelypops and Kahuna are left holding the bag. They then pursue the D-bag that sold them the fake case to try to recoup their money.
No Shine, No Jake Paul, no big dramatic controversy. And no entertaining YouTube videos.

The sales were made as a direct result of the BBCE Authentication. None of them buy that case with authentication. Who would be stupid enough to spend millions on a case that was not authenticated?

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Unless everyone here feels MeelyPops and Kahuna KNEW it was fake....and fleeced or coerced BBCE....well that's a different story entirely.

Originally Posted by mrb842

-Meely made a clear mistake in jumping the gun on the deal. It wasn't just a case of someone going all in on J'marcus Russell cards or doing an autograph signing with a guy who turns out to stink. It was somewhere worse but not a direct attempt to deceive.
-The two people I thought looked the worst are Kahuna and more importantly BBCE. BBCE this is their industry and they were clearly beaten badly. You just can not be beaten like that and I would have a hard time buying anything from them. Kahuna I'm not sure why he's not in jail.
-Most of you are at the show, you're welcome to confront Jameel and go to his booth and sniff it out or talk to other dealers about his rep. I've met the guy and think it was just a bad mistake and you're just trolling to hurt someone.

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

Steve Hart said himself he has never authenticated a sealed Pokemon case before

Meely and CardKahuna rushed to his shop on a Sunday Evening to get it to BBCE for authenticating. Not to mention, the person they bought it from had him ship it to a local gaming store (Which I thought was weird and an immediate red flag)

After the wrap was applied to the case after what seemed like only half an hour, Steve Hart researched and gained all the knowledge needing to authenticate the case. Would of loved to hear the convo between the 3 of them in his office

And then all of the sudden, Steve Hart rolls into work work a new motorcycle the following week. Coincidence???? Who the hell knows (CK and Meely do though)

To the first 2 apologists, red highlighted is all you need to know. This Meely bro and his partner clearly knew it was fake and clearly knew that BBCE wasn't knowledgeable on Pokemon. Hence, they rushed the grading to process through BBCE to capitalize.

[ATLOTP]

the 3 guys including OP never thought this thing was gonna get ripped. I'm sure the plan was to get BBCE to authenticate it and then sell it to a fractional investing company (remember those?) which would sell shares and guarantee the thing is never actually opened. the original seller sells a bogus case, the buyers get an authenticator to stick a wrap on it, they sell it to a company, the company's consumers buy a bag and hold it forever. you can't sell it to Jake Paul because he might actually open the thing, which is why it got sold to Shyne.

oops!

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

The bad part started when the guy (meelypoops) who thinks he’s a card expert, thought he could make people believe that he got duped.

If you thought the case was legit during the original purchase, you are a moron.

If you knew the case wasn’t legit, you are a scammer.

Meelypoops has elected to be a moron, because that’s the lesser of two evils.

[oldgoldy97]

Come see me!steal your wallet when you turn around

[KB81]

The wholesome hobby we once knew is gone far far away. Now that it’s mainstream and big $$ is in the sandbox, stuff like “scams” and “shilling” and “insert crappy stuff here” are everyday woe’s that we have to experience.

Greed is what will do scammers in eventually. Unfortunately some scammers never get caught but thems the breaks.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by KB81

The wholesome hobby we once knew is gone far far away. Now that it’s mainstream and big $$ is in the sandbox, stuff like “scams” and “shilling” and “insert crappy stuff here” are everyday woe’s that we have to experience.

Greed is what will do scammers in eventually. Unfortunately some scammers never get caught but thems the breaks.

[packman80]

So whatever happened did Meelypops make good and give his part of the refund back? Is Big Kahuna still going dark and refusing to pay?

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by chezball

I'm shocked he had the cardkahunas to post here.

A guy who orchestrated a million dollar scam in broad daylight has big cardkahunas.

[chezball]

Originally Posted by packman80

So whatever happened did Meelypops make good and give his part of the refund back? Is Big Kahuna still going dark and refusing to pay?

yes and yes.

[FBallHobbies]

Originally Posted by packman80

So whatever happened did Meelypops make good and give his part of the refund back? Is Big Kahuna still going dark and refusing to pay?

Kahuna was partying it up in Vegas.

He was also seen on TV sitting Courtside at a Celtics/Nets playoff game


He also sat on the glass at a Rangers game

He is literally spending all of Shyne's money so he won't have anything to pay back

[mrb842]

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

Kahuna was partying it up in Vegas.

He was also seen on TV sitting Courtside at a Celtics/Nets playoff game


He also sat on the glass at a Rangers game

He is literally spending all of Shyne's money so he won't have anything to pay back

meely has done deals w/Mariano Rivera, Steve Spurrier, a University of Florida athlete and been allowed to set up at the national and every other show since. I don't think all those folks would work with him if the industry found lingering fault.

[Badger Ben]

Originally Posted by mrb842

meely has done deals w/Mariano Rivera, Steve Spurrier, a University of Florida athlete and been allowed to set up at the national and every other show since. I don't think all those folks would work with him if the industry found lingering fault.

Really? I could rattle off a dozen dealers set up at The National who could give him a run for his money.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by FBallHobbies

Kahuna was partying it up in Vegas.

He was also seen on TV sitting Courtside at a Celtics/Nets playoff game


He also sat on the glass at a Rangers game

He is literally spending all of Shyne's money so he won't have anything to pay back

If he's in Vegas maybe Shyne has "connections" were Kahuna is brought out to the desert and told to dig a hole LOL

[Collector only]

Originally Posted by Badger Ben

Really? I could rattle off a dozen dealers set up at The National who could give him a run for his money.

Not to mention breakers, auction houses and the corporate booths….

[JeremyNick]

Meelypoops didn’t drop by to say hi and give his fam a day 2 recap.

[jmarascojr]

Originally Posted by mrb842

meely has done deals w/Mariano Rivera, Steve Spurrier, a University of Florida athlete and been allowed to set up at the national and every other show since. I don't think all those folks would work with him if the industry found lingering fault.

Pay someone enough (to sit down and talk or sign autos)and they’ll work with anybody…
As the Million Dollar Man used to say, “everybody’s got a price”…

Panini kept sending product to Backyard Breaks after their “free card” fiasco and they ended up pulling the LeBron triple logo man.

[checkoutmypc]

Originally Posted by mrb842

-Meely made a clear mistake in jumping the gun on the deal. It wasn't just a case of someone going all in on J'marcus Russell cards or doing an autograph signing with a guy who turns out to stink. It was somewhere worse but not a direct attempt to deceive.
-The two people I thought looked the worst are Kahuna and more importantly BBCE. BBCE this is their industry and they were clearly beaten badly. You just can not be beaten like that and I would have a hard time buying anything from them. Kahuna I'm not sure why he's not in jail.
-Most of you are at the show, you're welcome to confront Jameel and go to his booth and sniff it out or talk to other dealers about his rep. I've met the guy and think it was just a bad mistake and you're just trolling to hurt someone.

Could not agree more. I think Jameel is genuinely a nice guy who made a mistake, whether it be general deception or carelessness.

Pretty sure he immediately moved the money into escrow when he found out about the case, unlike Kahuna.

If Shyne or Logan Paul aren’t still making a huge deal of it, not sure why dudes on Blowout are.

[ksemmel]

Originally Posted by checkoutmypc

Could not agree more. I think Jameel is genuinely a nice guy who made a mistake, whether it be general deception or carelessness.

Pretty sure he immediately moved the money into escrow when he found out about the case, unlike Kahuna.

If Shyne or Logan Paul aren’t still making a huge deal of it, not sure why dudes on Blowout are.

Because what else are 40 year old men going to play white knight/fake upset over if not this?

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by mrb842

meely has done deals w/Mariano Rivera, Steve Spurrier, a University of Florida athlete and been allowed to set up at the national and every other show since. I don't think all those folks would work with him if the industry found lingering fault.

How many times has a dealer been arrested AT the national?

Or is this just really good sarcasm that went over my head? If so, nicely done!

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ksemmel

Because what else are 40 year old men going to play white knight/fake upset over if not this?

Conspiracy theories about MegaMix?

[ksemmel]

Originally Posted by Boo

Conspiracy theories about MegaMix?

I know you are trying, but was never mad about it and actually think it makes sense for BO, as I mentioned. Solid attempt though.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by checkoutmypc

Could not agree more. I think Jameel is genuinely a nice guy who made a mistake, whether it be general deception or carelessness.

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by checkoutmypc

Could not agree more. I think Jameel is genuinely a nice guy who made a mistake, whether it be general deception or carelessness.

Pretty sure he immediately moved the money into escrow when he found out about the case, unlike Kahuna.

If Shyne or Logan Paul aren’t still making a huge deal of it, not sure why dudes on Blowout are.

Good gracious. So in your definition of being "genuinely a nice guy", general deception falls into that category?

Him paying back the money quickly means absolutely nothing because he was simply covering his ass because he knew the jig was up.