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Old 03-09-2021, 10:12 PM   #76
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They charge you once they are scheduled for grading. I have two orders with them right now and the one that is scheduled for grading has been charged to me. My other one that was received the same day has not yet been charged.
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Old 03-10-2021, 10:15 AM   #77
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They charge you once they are scheduled for grading. I have two orders with them right now and the one that is scheduled for grading has been charged to me. My other one that was received the same day has not yet been charged.
Their site does say that but i have a sub that’s been in grading / quality control since last Friday and my card still has not been charged as of this morning
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Old 03-10-2021, 03:54 PM   #78
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Just sent in a 8 card order to give them a test drive, nothing high dollar just an economy order but I like the look of their slabs and their price point is great right now. They have a chance to really grow their sports card grading service with people needing somewhere to sent their $500 cards and not wanting to play $100 to have it graded.
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Old 03-11-2021, 11:44 AM   #79
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I sent them a 50 card (bulk) Pokémon order. Hope to send a small sports card order this week.
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Old 03-11-2021, 12:24 PM   #80
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I sent them a 50 card (bulk) Pokémon order. Hope to send a small sports card order this week.
CSG isn't grading Pokemon? Their website says to send to CGC instead.

Sports Cards We Grade & Policies
CSG grades most sports cards, including:

Baseball cards
Basketball cards
Football cards
Hockey cards
Wrestling cards
Racing cards
Soccer cards
Golf cards
Tennis cards
MMA
WNBA
Multi-sport cards
CSG currently grades cards that measure 2-5/8" x 3-3/4" or less.

Starting in April 2021, CSG will begin accepting submissions of cards up to 7.25 mm thick. CSG’s new-to-the-industry stackable holders will also accommodate more sizes of thick cards than any other third-party sports card grading company.

For more information about grading services for non-sports trading cards like Pokémon and Magic: The Gathering cards, visit CSG’s affiliate, CGC Trading Cards, at CGCcards.com.
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Old 03-11-2021, 12:44 PM   #81
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Sorry are they graded at the same site? They have the same parent company. I sent them through the gaming site. I’m getting a small sports card order ready to send them next. The post can be deleted if wrongly posted


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CSG isn't grading Pokemon? Their website says to send to CGC instead.

Sports Cards We Grade & Policies
CSG grades most sports cards, including:

Baseball cards
Basketball cards
Football cards
Hockey cards
Wrestling cards
Racing cards
Soccer cards
Golf cards
Tennis cards
MMA
WNBA
Multi-sport cards
CSG currently grades cards that measure 2-5/8" x 3-3/4" or less.

Starting in April 2021, CSG will begin accepting submissions of cards up to 7.25 mm thick. CSG’s new-to-the-industry stackable holders will also accommodate more sizes of thick cards than any other third-party sports card grading company.

For more information about grading services for non-sports trading cards like Pokémon and Magic: The Gathering cards, visit CSG’s affiliate, CGC Trading Cards, at CGCcards.com.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:49 PM   #82
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CSG isn't grading Pokemon? Their website says to send to CGC instead.

Sports Cards We Grade & Policies
CSG grades most sports cards, including:

Baseball cards
Basketball cards
Football cards
Hockey cards
Wrestling cards
Racing cards
Soccer cards
Golf cards
Tennis cards
MMA
WNBA
Multi-sport cards
CSG currently grades cards that measure 2-5/8" x 3-3/4" or less.

Starting in April 2021, CSG will begin accepting submissions of cards up to 7.25 mm thick. CSG’s new-to-the-industry stackable holders will also accommodate more sizes of thick cards than any other third-party sports card grading company.

For more information about grading services for non-sports trading cards like Pokémon and Magic: The Gathering cards, visit CSG’s affiliate, CGC Trading Cards, at CGCcards.com.
Correct, I still see Pokemon having to be submitted through CGC like they have been. That will probably change at some point once they take on non-sports cards at CSG.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:52 PM   #83
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I did send in a 5 pack of basketball cards to them, looks like they are now scheduled for grading. I am just excited for April when they allow the thicker cards. I have some waiting to send at that time.
Will post my cards when they come in.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:52 PM   #84
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Service level: Economy (no-subs)
# of Cards Submitted: 5
Posted turnaround time: 40 business days

Order Shipped: 3/2/2021 (USPS)
Postal Delivery: 3/8/2021
CSG Order Received: 3/15/2021
CSG Logged: 3/15/2021
CSG Scheduled For Grading: 3/19/2021
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Old 03-11-2021, 10:19 PM   #85
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Their turn around time is fairly good. I sent them two orders (economy and bulk) that they received on 26 Feb. The 19 card economy order was completed and shipped to me today. For the order, I got (3) 10's, (8) 9.5's, and (8) 9's. Not too bad. From the subgrades, my biggest issue is surface. The majority of the cards were chrome type and that's where I got hit the hardest.

I have a 55 card bulk order that was also received on 26 Feb and it is still in Receive stage. It's been less than two weeks though so there is still plenty of time.
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Old 03-12-2021, 12:34 AM   #86
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Their turn around time is fairly good. I sent them two orders (economy and bulk) that they received on 26 Feb. The 19 card economy order was completed and shipped to me today. For the order, I got (3) 10's, (8) 9.5's, and (8) 9's. Not too bad. From the subgrades, my biggest issue is surface. The majority of the cards were chrome type and that's where I got hit the hardest.

I have a 55 card bulk order that was also received on 26 Feb and it is still in Receive stage. It's been less than two weeks though so there is still plenty of time.
Congrats on the grades!

Interesting that have a 25 card Economy order with no sub grades that was received on 2/26 (same as yours) that hasn’t popped yet so it is behind your order which included sub grades (supposed to take 5 days longer).

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Old 03-13-2021, 06:52 PM   #87
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My first sub arrived back home today. Left home on 2/16 and back on 3/13 on a 25-day w/subs. Not bad!

Came USPS Registered Mail, very well sealed and packaged. Not sure how they will handle larger orders (mine was only four cards) but the packaging is as safe as anything I've ever seen.



The slabs are really nice in person. They are crystal clear and feel like high quality. The corners of the slabs are rounded and the edges very smooth. Compared to the BGS slab, its like holding an iPhone versus holding a brick. The flips, while I think they could be improved, are not as bad as I expected in person. There are some neat counterfeit-proof elements on the labels, reminds me a lot of the new $100 bills.





The slabs are just a touch taller than a BGS slab, but also thinner. Again, the difference in "feel" is incredible between the two. The CSG slabs also have ridges on them so they are stackable. I keep mine in graded sleeves (that they nicely fit in) though.



If you remember, one of my four cards wasn't graded. An email from CSG customer service said the card was oversize and did not fit their holder. The holder must have a very, very tight tolerance, as all four of these cards are standard size from the same set. They said I could resubmit in April when they have the larger holder. Sucks because now the four card set won't have the same serial-numbering. Oh well.



Here's the scan of the four cards I subbed...they all seem the same size to me, but maybe not.



All in all, I am VERY satisfied with the service, accuracy of the grading, quality of the slab, and overall aesthetic. Not sure I'd change much other than tweaking the flip.

Thanks for reading!

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Old 03-13-2021, 07:52 PM   #88
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They look nice 👍


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My first sub arrived back home today. Left home on 2/16 and back on 3/13 on a 25-day w/subs. Not bad!

Came USPS Registered Mail, very well sealed and packaged. Not sure how they will handle larger orders (mine was only four cards) but the packaging is as safe as anything I've ever seen.



The slabs are really nice in person. They are crystal clear and feel like high quality. The corners of the slabs are rounded and the edges very smooth. Compared to the BGS slab, its like holding an iPhone versus holding a brick. The flips, while I think they could be improved, are not as bad as I expected in person. There are some neat counterfeit-proof elements on the labels, reminds me a lot of the new $100 bills.





The slabs are just a touch taller than a BGS slab, but also thinner. Again, the difference in "feel" is incredible between the two. The CSG slabs also have ridges on them so they are stackable. I keep mine in graded sleeves (that they nicely fit in) though.



If you remember, one of my four cards wasn't graded. An email from CSG customer service said the card was oversize and did not fit their holder. The holder must have a very, very tight tolerance, as all four of these cards are standard size from the same set. They said I could resubmit in April when they have the larger holder. Sucks because now the four card set won't have the same serial-numbering. Oh well.



Here's the scan of the four cards I subbed...they all seem the same size to me, but maybe not.



All in all, I am VERY satisfied with the service, accuracy of the grading, quality of the slab, and overall aesthetic. Not sure I'd change much other than tweaking the flip.

Thanks for reading!
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Old 03-13-2021, 09:40 PM   #89
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My first sub arrived back home today. Left home on 2/16 and back on 3/13 on a 25-day w/subs. Not bad!

Came USPS Registered Mail, very well sealed and packaged. Not sure how they will handle larger orders (mine was only four cards) but the packaging is as safe as anything I've ever seen.



The slabs are really nice in person. They are crystal clear and feel like high quality. The corners of the slabs are rounded and the edges very smooth. Compared to the BGS slab, its like holding an iPhone versus holding a brick. The flips, while I think they could be improved, are not as bad as I expected in person. There are some neat counterfeit-proof elements on the labels, reminds me a lot of the new $100 bills.





The slabs are just a touch taller than a BGS slab, but also thinner. Again, the difference in "feel" is incredible between the two. The CSG slabs also have ridges on them so they are stackable. I keep mine in graded sleeves (that they nicely fit in) though.



If you remember, one of my four cards wasn't graded. An email from CSG customer service said the card was oversize and did not fit their holder. The holder must have a very, very tight tolerance, as all four of these cards are standard size from the same set. They said I could resubmit in April when they have the larger holder. Sucks because now the four card set won't have the same serial-numbering. Oh well.



Here's the scan of the four cards I subbed...they all seem the same size to me, but maybe not.



All in all, I am VERY satisfied with the service, accuracy of the grading, quality of the slab, and overall aesthetic. Not sure I'd change much other than tweaking the flip.

Thanks for reading!
I decided last week I am going all in on these guys. The time is right with PSA raising prices and BGS taking forever. These guys are doing some innovative things and i love the case. I am sending everything in to these guys for the time being.
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Old 03-13-2021, 10:15 PM   #90
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I sent them an 8 card order today (economy)
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Old 03-14-2021, 04:16 PM   #91
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Sub number two!

Service level: 40 Day Economy (note: subs add 5 days to service level)
Cards: 7

Order Shipped: 03/15/2021 (USPS Priority Mail)
Postal Delivery: 03/22/2021
CSG Logged: 04/23/2021
Scheduled For Grading: 05/04/2021
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Old 03-14-2021, 08:45 PM   #92
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Be careful thinking that CSG won’t be susceptible to the same delays everyone else will be. Only takes a few clueless submitters sending cards like this in bulk to ruin everything.

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Be careful thinking that CSG won’t be susceptible to the same delays everyone else will be. Only takes a few clueless submitters sending cards like this in bulk to ruin everything.

It’s a $10 card
A psa 9 is $150
A psa 10 is $400-$800.

He got an 8.5. Could’ve probably been a 9 with the right grader.

What’s clueless about submitting a card like this? Other than the listing price obviously.
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It’s a $10 card
A psa 9 is $150
A psa 10 is $400-$800.

He got an 8.5. Could’ve probably been a 9 with the right grader.

What’s clueless about submitting a card like this? Other than the listing price obviously.
What do the PSA prices matter? It’s in a CSG a slab with no subgrades. Not a PSA slab. The last 1996 Ultra PSA 8.5 sold for $450. There’s a CSG 8.5 for $225. Are you going to buy it?

I just picked the first example I saw that looked stupid. He’s got some other great ones. 1997 UD Jordan CSG 8, 1989 Fleer Darryl Strawberry CSG 8.5 (last PSA 10 sold for $25), 1999 UD MVP Kobe CSG 8.5, etc.
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What do the PSA prices matter? It’s in a CSG a slab with no subgrades. Not a PSA slab. The last 1996 Ultra PSA 8.5 sold for $450. There’s a CSG 8.5 for $225. Are you going to buy it?

I just picked the first example I saw that looked stupid. He’s got some other great ones. 1997 UD Jordan CSG 8, 1989 Fleer Darryl Strawberry CSG 8.5 (last PSA 10 sold for $25), 1999 UD MVP Kobe CSG 8.5, etc.
I’m just saying, that wasn’t the best example. I get that CSG is not psa, but if a 9 goes for $40, it’s worth the $8 to grade it.

I bet you he makes more money with that 8.5 then he would’ve raw.

There will be plenty of stupid examples as well, but low end graders get a lot of criticism on here for no reason.

And I don’t buy graded unless it’s to sell or my only option. I buy raw to grade.
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I’m just saying, that wasn’t the best example. I get that CSG is not psa, but if a 9 goes for $40, it’s worth the $8 to grade it.

I bet you he makes more money with that 8.5 then he would’ve raw.

There will be plenty of stupid examples as well, but low end graders get a lot of criticism on here for no reason.

And I don’t buy graded unless it’s to sell or my only option. I buy raw to grade.
I never have understood all the vitriol directed to low end graders. 'This card shouldn't have been graded', yada yada.

If you can make $10 profit per slab you could easily do a quarter million a year net with very little exposure and without having to work very hard.
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I never have understood all the vitriol directed to low end graders. 'This card shouldn't have been graded', yada yada.

If you can make $10 profit per slab you could easily do a quarter million a year net with very little exposure and without having to work very hard.
It's not low-end graders. It's low-end graders who don't know what they're doing. Filling subs with cards worth less than the cost of grading. If you are paying $8 with CSG to grade a 1987 Fleer Daryl Strawberry that clearly isn't a gem, you don't know what you're doing. Only way that card sells is if somebody is looking for a slab to practice cracking out.
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I never have understood all the vitriol directed to low end graders. 'This card shouldn't have been graded', yada yada.

If you can make $10 profit per slab you could easily do a quarter million a year net with very little exposure and without having to work very hard.
I agree, this is the route I am taking, New current low end cards that are low pop at PSA, and will be for a year. Cards that no one should be sending at $100 each..

Example

2021 Topps rc, Adells, Barts, Bohms, Trouts
2021 Hoops rcs, Wiseman, Edwards, Melos (some)
2021 prizm draft
Low end Goats lebron, jordans around $2-$10 raw value.

etc: fill in the rest of stuff you can find or break at retail msrp not . Non flipper prices


Goal is to hit cards around 30-$50+ (after grade) a card and get them back in 2-3 months. Rinse and Repeat, before the Value PSA hit the markets for same type of cards.

Of course this all goes downhill once receive times get further out, which is probably to be expected.

I would be doing this No subgrades, I am not collecting them for myself, and if the price difference to itself (w/subs) is less than $10, and as long as it flips I am fine, rather pump more cards in, then worry about sub grades.

I just want a multiplier over X2: X3 X4 X5 circle any is fine with the low amount I am sending, 50-100 cards a month. Currently sent 3 shipments out.

Definitely not sending 1988 Topps strawberries,

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I agree, this is the route I am taking, New current low end cards that are low pop at PSA, and will be for a year. Cards that no one should be sending at $100 each..

Example

2021 Topps rc, Adells, Barts, Bohms, Trouts
2021 Hoops rcs, Wiseman, Edwards, Melos (some)
2021 prizm draft
Low end Goats lebron, jordans around $2-$10 raw value.

etc: fill in the rest of stuff you can find or break at retail msrp not . Non flipper prices


Goal is to hit cards around 30-$50+ (after grade) a card and get them back in 2-3 months. Rinse and Repeat, before the Value PSA hit the markets for same type of cards.

Of course this all goes downhill once receive times get further out, which is probably to be expected.

I would be doing this No subgrades, I am not collecting them for myself, and if the price difference to itself (w/subs) is less than $10, and as long as it flips I am fine, rather pump more cards in, then worry about sub grades.

I just want a multiplier over X2: X3 X4 X5 circle any is fine with the low amount I am sending, 50-100 cards a month. Currently sent 3 shipments out.

Definitely not sending 1988 Topps strawberries,
Nothing wrong with this, nothing wrong with sending in 1988 Topps either as long as you know what you're doing and will get back a grade that's still profitable. Most people, myself included are annoyed with the idiots that send in stacks and stacks of these types of cards without reviewing them and getting back low grades that they're going to lose money on but justify it by saying the 9's and 10's will pay for the submission. If they did their homework and reviewed the cards before submitting their submissions would be more profitable and they wouldn't be clogging up the process with junk that shouldn't be submitted.
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trial run to try CSG out. the 4 card standard are 1996-97 Topps Kobe Bryant RC. ( i also have 3 at PSA express which was received 2/10/21 and entered 2/24/21 and is currently in grading). I believe they should get between 8-9 from both places. trying to compare the grading standards of each as all card were pack pulled and in a box since 1997 in soft sleeves. so, on with the experiment.

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Order Shipped: 03/15/2021 (USPS Priority Mail)
Postal Delivery:
CSG Logged: (shows received )
Scheduled For Grading:
Grading / Quality Control:
Finalized / Imaged / Shipped:
Deadline:
Delivered: (FEDEX)

7 card economy with sub-grades (40 day plus 5 for subgrades)
Order Shipped: 03/15/2021 (USPS Priority Mail)
Postal Delivery:
CSG Logged: (shows received )
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Grading / Quality Control:
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