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Old 08-11-2020, 09:44 AM   #76
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Let’s compare the two scenarios and test out the math you suggested the OP to use. (Don’t try to confuse people with your paragraphs of nonsense)

1) A $6k offer on a card with your “market value, based on your comps” of $3,500.

2) A $3k offer on a card with a $1,700 market value.

Which one are you taking?
1.) I don't know why you're just responding to my comments when several other people had called you out on your bullsh*t. Are you trying to create the illusion that I'm the only one who thinks you're insane?

2.) I don't know what the hell these scenarios are trying to prove or say. If I get a 6K offer for a 3.5K card for a 3K offer on a 1.7K card, I'm taking both of them in a heartbeat. If you're asking me to choose one, I'm picking the 6K offer because that nets a 1.2K more than the other scenario.


I'm seriously getting tired of responding to you now. I don't know if you have trouble comprehending English but I'm done. Your card is AT BEST a 3.5K card before you sullied it with your sh*tpost, and you didn't even get a single offer for 3K at auction.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:45 AM   #77
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This is how I know you’re a hater... It’s been broken $2k without an auction. But you’re still saying it won’t break $2k?? What???
Did it sell?

What's that....it didn't? Oh, so it hasn't broken $2k.

You had an insane offer, rejected it, and now will be putting it up for auction, probably to shill it on your end to justify your thinking.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:46 AM   #78
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1.) I don't know why you're just responding to my comments when several other people had called you out on your bullsh*t. Are you trying to create the illusion that I'm the only one who thinks you're insane?

2.) I don't know what the hell these scenarios are trying to prove or say. If I get a 6K offer for a 3.5K card for a 3K offer on a 1.7K card, I'm taking both of them in a heartbeat. If you're asking me to choose one, I'm picking the 6K offer because that nets a 1.2K more than the other scenario.


I'm seriously getting tired of responding to you now. I don't know if you have trouble comprehending English but I'm done. Your card is AT BEST a 3.5K card before you sullied it with your sh*tpost, and you didn't even get a single offer for 3K at auction.
He’s a proven liar who lost several thousand not listening to everyone cause he thought they knew better. Don’t waste your time.

When it does get listed on eBay it will be shilled, mark my words.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:51 AM   #79
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1.) I don't know why you're just responding to my comments when several other people had called you out on your bullsh*t. Are you trying to create the illusion that I'm the only one who thinks you're insane?

2.) I don't know what the hell these scenarios are trying to prove or say. If I get a 6K offer for a 3.5K card for a 3K offer on a 1.7K card, I'm taking both of them in a heartbeat. If you're asking me to choose one, I'm picking the 6K offer because that nets a 1.2K more than the other scenario.


I'm seriously getting tired of responding to you now. I don't know if you have trouble comprehending English but I'm done. Your card is AT BEST a 3.5K card before you sullied it with your sh*tpost, and you didn't even get a single offer for 3K at auction.

Ok, put your money where your mouth is genius. Let’s get an escrow on here and put up $1k each. And let’s see if the card auctions on eBay for less than $3.5k like you said. Enough of your BS and trolling. Yup it didn’t get a single bid in an Auction ran by an Auction house that specializes in Vintage collectibles, you’re a genius.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:53 AM   #80
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Did it sell?

What's that....it didn't? Oh, so it hasn't broken $2k.

You had an insane offer, rejected it, and now will be putting it up for auction, probably to shill it on your end to justify your thinking.
You should type your real name when accusing someone of being a shill bidder. Where was the “shill bidding” in the last auction? Stop trolling.

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Old 08-11-2020, 09:58 AM   #81
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He’s a proven liar who lost several thousand not listening to everyone cause he thought they knew better. Don’t waste your time.

When it does get listed on eBay it will be shilled, mark my words.
Yup because it was shilled in the last auction with the auction house right? Last time im replying to you troll.
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Old 08-11-2020, 09:59 AM   #82
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Ok, put your money where your mouth is genius. Let’s get an escrow on here and put up $1k each. And let’s see if the card auctions on eBay for less than $3.5k like you said. Enough of your BS and trolling. Yup it didn’t get a single bid in an Auction ran by an Auction house that specializes in Vintage collectibles, you’re a genius.
https://goldinauctions.com/2009_Bowm...-LOT63381.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2012_Pani...-LOT64174.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2011_Topp...-LOT63947.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2011_Mike...-LOT64118.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2009_Bowm...-LOT64286.aspx

Oh wow, Mike Trout cards and memorabilia that had a decent minimum price where the seller knew how much they were worth are getting bids(and high bids at that) despite being posted by an Auction house specializing in vintage cards unlike your card! I wonder why that is! Did all the Trout collectors who're bidding 1.5 million dollars on the superfractor somehow manage to miss the chance to buy your card at 3K that you are so sure will go over 4K?

And while it is tempting to take your money, it's so transparent that you'll try to shill-bid on eBay and then pad the losses with the bet-money. So I'll pass on that offer.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:00 AM   #83
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Yup because it was shilled in the last auction with the auction house right? Last time im replying to you troll.
Can you just admit you want to keep the card?
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:01 AM   #84
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Its obviously Burgandy time....

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Old 08-11-2020, 10:05 AM   #85
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https://goldinauctions.com/2009_Bowm...-LOT63381.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2012_Pani...-LOT64174.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2011_Topp...-LOT63947.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2011_Mike...-LOT64118.aspx

https://goldinauctions.com/2009_Bowm...-LOT64286.aspx

Oh wow, Mike Trout cards and memorabilia that had a decent minimum price where the seller knew how much they were worth are getting bids(and high bids at that) despite being posted by an Auction house specializing in vintage cards unlike your card! I wonder why that is! Did all the Trout collectors who're bidding 1.5 million dollars on the superfractor somehow manage to miss the chance to buy your card at 3K that you are so sure will go over 4K?

And while it is tempting to take your money, it's so transparent that you'll try to shill-bid on eBay and then pad the losses with the bet-money. So I'll pass on that offer.
Exactly you’re all talk and trolling. What’s even more tempting is contacting this site and getting your information and the other two users to file suit for defamation and publicly accusing me of being a shill bidder. Should be an easy case as the last auction at the auction house had zero bids.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:09 AM   #86
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Exactly you’re all talk and trolling. What’s even more tempting is contacting this site and getting your information and the other two users to file suit for defamation and publicly accusing me of being a shill bidder. Should be an easy case as the last auction at the auction house had zero bids.
Dude just take the L and go home. You're not doing yourself any favors here.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:10 AM   #87
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Sure thing. PM me and I'll give you my phone number, real name, address, and email address. Do you need anything else?

I'm sorry but the fact that you think Blowouts will just hand you my personal information if you ask them is so insane to me. Are you 12?
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:10 AM   #88
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The last one sold from 2020 inception, same card, auto with letter patch. Sold on 5/30/2020 for $1,313.

Only difference is this one is 1/2 but identical. On card auto with letter patch on side

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133418887973

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As for the Luminaries 1/1, the exact same card(with the letter T) sold for 1727 dollars 3 days ago.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283973040844

I completely understand not wanting to sell for below 10K(that would be a PC card if I pulled it) but a market value has been set for it and I don't think it will reach that amount.
There you go, I said a while back and this Luminaries sale reinforces the market value for your card OP. Not sure why you think you can get 10k for it right now
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:12 AM   #89
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Sure thing. PM me and I'll give you my phone number, real name, address, and email address. Do you need anything else?

I'm sorry but the fact that you think Blowouts will just hand you my personal information if you ask them is so insane to me. Are you 12?
Guess you never heard of an IP address. You can lie and say “It wasn’t me who lied and accused him of being a shill bidder!”
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:15 AM   #90
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Well, this account is linked to my eBay account, I made deals with multiple users(20+) on this site alone with my real name, paypal address, and home address, so I think you'd have no problem I'm koreanmarklee. You can contact sellers I had interactions with my looking at the feedbacks I got.

BTW, I didn't accuse you of being a shill-bidder, but said that you'll shill bid if I take up on the bet. You'd be stupid not to with how the bet is structured. But that's besides the point.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:19 AM   #91
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BTW, I provided 1deh1 with all of my personal information as he PMed me for it.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:20 AM   #92
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As for the Luminaries 1/1, the exact same card(with the letter T) sold for 1727 dollars 3 days ago.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/283973040844

I completely understand not wanting to sell for below 10K(that would be a PC card if I pulled it) but a market value has been set for it and I don't think it will reach that amount.
Mark some people would be like OH NO you burst my bubble. OMG it's not worth 10K like I thought. I actually appreciate you finding this so at least now I have a proper gauge for what the card sold for. I still wouldn't sell now for less than 4 K (Yes price dropped 6K LOL), otherwise I'd like to see it go to auction after Trout's superfractor sells.

Overall, I think I overestimated the power of Luminaries. Kinda strange that the Trout Letter Patch auto would be going for less than 2K. Thats essentially the price of a Zion Silver Lol.

I will keep everyone updated on everything, but dead serious thank you sir for at least giving me a proper gauge for my card! I will always listen to what the Trout Collectors have to say. It's up to me to decide whether I want to listen to it or not, and right now i'm all ears.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:22 AM   #93
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BTW, I provided 1deh1 with all of my personal information as he PMed me for it.

This guy really sent me his overseas address. Brb, gonna book a flight to South Korea first-class to file suit! Lol


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Old 08-11-2020, 10:23 AM   #94
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I do live in Korea. Ask anybody who had a transaction with me.

Edit: I have never even been to the States lol

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Old 08-11-2020, 10:24 AM   #95
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Mark some people would be like OH NO you burst my bubble. OMG it's not worth 10K like I thought. I actually appreciate you finding this so at least now I have a proper gauge for what the card sold for. I still wouldn't sell now for less than 4 K (Yes price dropped 6K LOL), otherwise I'd like to see it go to auction after Trout's superfractor sells.

Overall, I think I overestimated the power of Luminaries. Kinda strange that the Trout Letter Patch auto would be going for less than 2K. Thats essentially the price of a Zion Silver Lol.

I will keep everyone updated on everything, but dead serious thank you sir for at least giving me a proper gauge for my card! I will always listen to what the Trout Collectors have to say. It's up to me to decide whether I want to listen to it or not, and right now i'm all ears.
No problem. Glad you appreciate it!

Really shows the stark contrasts that you can see in this hobby. A guy thanked me for something another guy is trying to sue me for.
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:29 AM   #96
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Mark some people would be like OH NO you burst my bubble. OMG it's not worth 10K like I thought. I actually appreciate you finding this so at least now I have a proper gauge for what the card sold for. I still wouldn't sell now for less than 4 K (Yes price dropped 6K LOL), otherwise I'd like to see it go to auction after Trout's superfractor sells.

Overall, I think I overestimated the power of Luminaries. Kinda strange that the Trout Letter Patch auto would be going for less than 2K. Thats essentially the price of a Zion Silver Lol.

I will keep everyone updated on everything, but dead serious thank you sir for at least giving me a proper gauge for my card! I will always listen to what the Trout Collectors have to say. It's up to me to decide whether I want to listen to it or not, and right now i'm all ears.
Very nice!

Good luck with the card!
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Old 08-11-2020, 10:30 AM   #97
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No problem. Glad you appreciate it!

Really shows the stark contrasts that you can see in this hobby. A guy thanked me for something another guy is trying to sue me for.
I'm sure he'll find the proper lawyer in Korea and sue the pants off you!

Seriously, talk about denial. You made a mistake. You turned down 6K on a card that is maybe worth 1/6 that. It happens. Life goes on.

Key part of this hobby nowadays is using as much knowledge as possible. I'm not saying listen to every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it doesn't hurt to absorb, research and then come up with your own opinions.
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Let’s compare the two scenarios and test out the math you suggested the OP to use. (Don’t try to confuse people with your paragraphs of nonsense)

1) A $6k offer on a card with your “market value, based on your comps” of $3,500.

2) A $3k offer on a card with a $1,700 market value.

Which one are you taking?
I’m taking both because I’m getting offers above what reasonable comps are.

Which one did you take?
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lmao he sent me a PM threatening me.

Is that a reportable offense?
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lmao he sent me a PM threatening me.

Is that a reportable offense?
Depends on how vile it is.

Post it and start a poll and let the community decide
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